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Seriously, is there ^anyone^ on MN who does not want Labour to win on June 8?

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cathf · 06/05/2017 19:48

Come out, come out wherever you are!
I know it will mean you will be attacked and preached at, you will be told you are rich, uncaring and hate everyone except yourself, but will anyone stand with me and admit to planning on voting Conservative on June 8?
I can't be the only one surely? I didn't vote the Conservatives in by myself in 2015!

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Radishal · 10/05/2017 15:59

A decent leader / a decent socialist weighs in there and then and says "No. Not acceptable. Not having it".
A moral coward or a person who is afraid of upsetting the antisemitic element in the Labour Party, does nothing.

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Radishal · 10/05/2017 16:06

It got lots of coverage online as well as on the fake nooz. He did nothing. That incident coupled with calling Hamas and Hezbollah "friends " and countless other occasions makes me unwilling to cut him any slack.
Antisemitism isn't some lower grade of racism that's not that important. It's disgusting . It's on the rise and it needs to be stamped on.

TessTube · 10/05/2017 16:07

It wasn't edited, it was filmed.

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TessTube · 10/05/2017 16:10

Thing is Fanjo there are most definitely issues with the left and anti semitism - not particularly or exclusively in the Labour Party.

It was all over the press. This was an inquiry into it.

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Radishal · 10/05/2017 16:12

But momentum supporters try to downplay or even indulge antisemitism. As does JC. It is absolutely crucial in my decision making as to who to vote for.
I'm a Labour supporter and found Ed Milliband a bit too left wing. But I knew he was pretty solid on this sort of shit so I voted Labour because I recognise the importance of unity in fighting the Tories.
But not this arsehole, he doesn't get a Labour vote out of me.

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Radishal · 10/05/2017 16:18

And because I'm half Irish don't get me started again on his bloody handshake with Gerry Adams after the Brighton bomb.
JC doesn't convince. It's not the beard or the vegetarianism or any other shit that the right wing press goes on about. It's this stuff.
And Abbott's shocking performance. And McDonald's "I didn't realise the flags were there".

Notanotherelection · 10/05/2017 16:23

No I understood you I just think that if a black person said they had been racially abused your first reaction would not have been to question the situation.

Notanotherelection · 10/05/2017 16:27

I think it's crucial we are all clear on racism. Of course there are racists in all parties not just labour but for the leader to indulge those who practise it is awful.

Dianne Abbott disgraceful comments on 'all white people play divide and rule' and 'West Indian mothers go to the wall for their kids* are clearly racist remarks too and no apology or acknowledgment.

It's not good enough

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Notanotherelection · 10/05/2017 16:29

And Labour Party member here who voted Cooper. I also feel there's a level of mysogynistim too that cost her the leadership when she is clearly more suited to the job and appealing to voters than Corbyn

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Notanotherelection · 10/05/2017 16:32

Mmm I wasn't accusing you of racism I just pointed out that you seemed to need more convincing when anyone can google the footage. Suprised a political animal like you hasn't seen it and seems surprised.

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Notanotherelection · 10/05/2017 16:38

Come on the old media chestnut doesn't wash.

Get your policies right and I like labour policies. They are right up my street but you need to convince the public to trust you to cost them and deliver them.

He doesn't and people will make up their own minds without the right wing/left wing press

Notanotherelection · 10/05/2017 16:39

Fair enough Fanjo you have listened I know

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