Seriously, is there ^anyone^ on MN who does not want Labour to win on June 8?

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Come out, come out wherever you are!
I know it will mean you will be attacked and preached at, you will be told you are rich, uncaring and hate everyone except yourself, but will anyone stand with me and admit to planning on voting Conservative on June 8?
I can't be the only one surely? I didn't vote the Conservatives in by myself in 2015!

Corbyn cares about people's right to a decent life. Nothing Muppet like about that.

It would be really nice if people would stop Gentile-splaining to those Jewish people that feel threatened by Jeremy Corbyn and his labour party that we're wrong. That it's just a "trope" and we're too stupid to identify actual anti-Semitism. Many of us have been on the end of anti-Semetism many times and we know it when we see it.

^ this

I agree with piglet.

Why assume everyone is Gentile?

You're right, Monkey. I had an exchange with a poster who identified as Jewish who did not have the concerns that many Jewish voters have about Corbyn. However, it is my impression and experience that most Jewish voters have this concern about Corbyn and the people he indulges.
And being told by people who do not experience antisemitism that you are imagining it or overstating it, well, Gentilesplaining does seem to cover that.

I was prepared to consider whether people (including me) had got him all wrong on this. But his performance at the launch of the party's report into antisemitism told me an awful lot about his position on this.
One attendee was downright abusive (verbally) to another attendee who was Jewish. Instead of intervening and saying something firm but polite (JC's schtick) about how there was no place for antisemitism in the party and please desist, he did his usual beatific smile and said nothing. To be fair to Shami Chakrabati, she at least had the decency to look horrified.

Tory supporters can't sieve through media clips to judge if they're edited with a lot of bias or not
But Labour supporters are clever enough to decide that every clip/quote/documented and filmed body language that a Tory supporter doesn't like is just spin

basically.

If a socialist leader cannot do something there and then about an antisemitic incident then they aren't really up to much.

Radishal, I remember this incident and there was no verbal abuse of Ruth Smeeth. Ruth Smeeth was accused by Marc Wadsworth of working 'hand in hand' with the Telegraph [passing on information to the press] and this apparently perpetuates an anti-semetic trope [Jewish people owning the media].
Ruth Smeeth was passed a press release by a Telegraph journalist and this prompted the remark. I am not saying Wadsworth was right in the remark he made but it was not abusive and it was not anti-semetic imo. Ruth Smeeth was one of the MPs calling for the resignation of Jeremy Corbyn and there were fears that some MPs were indeed briefing the press. So Wadsworth's remarks make sense in this context.

I think the anti-semetism aspect was leapt upon by those who were seeking to discredit Jeremy Corbyn. Mud sticks and all that.

www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/76781/jewish-labour-mp-left-tears-launch-anti-semitism

Sea his behaviour came at a time when MPs were getting horrible abuse and he stood there like a limp biscuit.

He didn't do nearly enough.

I think it's a totally fair comment to say that.

His MPs were getting horrible abuse... where and when?
I'll say it again, Wadsworth accusing Smeeth of working hand in hand with the Telegraph does not constitute horrible abuse.

Look, there was enough concern to actually launch a report into anti semetism.

That report found instances of anti semetism within the Party.

The credibility of that report was then massively undermined.

The CST and the Board of Deputies... leading, axial organisations in the Jewish community.... have both condemned the labour party as being anti semitic.

JC cannot stop talking about Israel and Jews.

But I guess we're all just a bit thick and have been reading The Mail? Or maybe just "playing the anti semetism card". Or probably just being oversensitive. Thanks for explaining that.

And it wasn't anti-semetic either in my opinion.

I have always voted Labour, I wont be this time though.

Don't be ridiculous NC.

I haven't said you are thick or read the Daily Mail or over-sensitive.
Obviously this bothers you.

But I have looked at the reports and watched the footage for myself and I don't agree that this particular incident is an example of vile abuse and anti-semetism.

I am a Labour Party member and won't be voting for Corbyn and his awful team either.

You were discussing the incident with another poster. I haven't mentioned it.

So was your comment not directed at me then NC?

So if I and other Jewish or Jewish descent people think something is antisemitic we are being brainwashed by the Daily Mail (oh, the irony!).
Smells like victim blaming to me.

I have never said you were brainwashed by the Daily Mail Radishal
I understand that you believe this incident was an anti-semetic one.
I disagree.