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Seriously, is there ^anyone^ on MN who does not want Labour to win on June 8?

911 replies

cathf · 06/05/2017 19:48

Come out, come out wherever you are!
I know it will mean you will be attacked and preached at, you will be told you are rich, uncaring and hate everyone except yourself, but will anyone stand with me and admit to planning on voting Conservative on June 8?
I can't be the only one surely? I didn't vote the Conservatives in by myself in 2015!

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Radishal · 08/05/2017 11:58

Make, how old are you? You sound very naive.

2rebecca · 08/05/2017 12:01

I disagree that in coalitions sod all gets done. The most extreme policies of the dominant party don't get done and the change for the sake of change stuff. If we'd still had a lib/ tory coalition we wouldn't have had a Brexit vote.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 08/05/2017 12:04

I am no failing to understand make

What you fail to understand is that even if Corbyn had been a good leader, lead a good opposition, put forward solid workable plans someone with his background and his connections will never ever be voted as PM

Once again the problem lies with the man himself the electorate won't take that risk and you can't simply get rid of PM it wouldn't make sense to be elected as PM then his MP's to have a vote of confidence against him it just wouldn't happen anyway won't happen as he will never ever get elected to be PM

Justanotherlurker · 08/05/2017 12:09

We can sort this out in a month, win or lose.

If you think that if Labour managed to pull of the shock of the century and win, do you honestly believe that Labour would replace corbyn, momentum wouldn't allow it as it would be seen as confirmation in him personally.

Also as I have been saying on this and other threads, for 18 months any critism of corbyn was met with such lines as "fick off and vote for the tories then", many of them probably will, and now the GE is upon us you are wanting unity?

OCSockOrphanage · 08/05/2017 12:10

I would like to see a Tory win. I think they will because Corbyn is a puppet; Abbott is an idiot; Thornberry is a bit better; McDonnell thinks people on quite ordinary professional salaries will stump up cheerfully. "The longest suicide note in history" as Michael Foot's Manifesto was described, is being re-printed right now. The adults in Labour distanced themselves long ago.

GemmaWella81 · 08/05/2017 12:19

Labour have too many anti-semitic members for my likes...

But yeah, the Tories are 'evil' Hmm

QuiteUnfitBit · 08/05/2017 12:21

If you find labout unsupportable, vote libdem, green.....anything but conservative.
Sadly, I'm going to vote Tory, because voting Libdem (which I did in the local election) might let in Labour. Much as I'd like to keep the Tories out, I'd like to keep Labour out even more. While education and the NHS are important (and I support everyone being taxed more, because there simply aren't enough people who earn >£80k), Brexit is even more important. It's not that I think TM will do a good job, but that I think JC and associates would do much much worse.

StinkPickle · 08/05/2017 12:22

Yep hoping for a blue win here too

Radishal · 08/05/2017 12:29

I love this call for unity from one of the most rebellious back benchers ever.Hmm
As you sew, so shall you reap, you plonker.

Nicemil1 · 08/05/2017 12:37

we can sort this out in a month

Oh make I say this with the greatest respect how old are you? Seriously labour won't look electable with this shower even if you really really wish it to be so.

It took us years to recover from Foot, years and years

and as Radishsal says Corbyn and Abbott have never been loyal ever.

NC4T · 08/05/2017 12:55

Essentially I want Lord Vetinari in power. He'd sort this shit out.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 08/05/2017 13:03

There are lots of us who will not be voting Labour.

We are just tired of the same arguements again & again (on MN) so don't take part.

makeourfuture · 08/05/2017 13:17

Oh make I say this with the greatest respect how old are you?

Well, no spring chicken. My first campaign was for jimmy carter against gerald ford.

makeourfuture · 08/05/2017 13:22

And i never cross the picket line.

BeyondThePage · 08/05/2017 13:25

And i never cross the picket line

Why? Seriously - institutionalised bullying. Protest if you want, if I disagree, I'll work if I want.

SusannahL · 08/05/2017 13:31

I am voting Tory as is my husband, and at least two children.

Those of your supporting Labour - do you HONESTLY think clueless Corbyn is fit to run the country?

Thank heaven most people have the sense to know the answer to that question!

Radishal · 08/05/2017 13:33

Make, If your first campaign was the Carter era were you politically active this country when Thatcher won (1979) When did you start political activity in this country?
Were you here for the Winter of Discontent? Were you here for the Foot era?
Don't you remember how pissed off and betrayed people feel by narrow minded left wing activists? Especially when they are being shafted by the Tories?
You seem to be in cloud cuckoo land.hope the weather is nice.

scaryteacher · 08/05/2017 13:37

make If you find labout unsupportable, vote libdem, green... I find them unsupportable as well, so where does that leave me?

Nicemil1 · 08/05/2017 13:38

If you are indeed over 25 then you should be ashamed of yourself.

Ashamed that you were instrumental in voting for a leader who palpably wasn't up to the job and therefore incapable of holding the tories to account. You hVe helped condemn this country and its poorest people to years of curs and food banks because you fancied a bit of a silly old Marxist rebel as a leader.

Instead of telling us all where we have gone wrong and to support this car crash front bench you should hang your head in shame because your political naievety or indeed foolishness has cost real people much heartache with more years to come.

BoredOnMatLeave · 08/05/2017 13:46

Always voted Tory as they are the least awful.

I hope to never have to live through another Labour government to be honest...

QuiteUnfitBit · 08/05/2017 14:14

I find them unsupportable as well, so where does that leave me? Voting Tory with me? Sad

Made If it's any consolation, the winner of the next election has a poison chalice. If Labour can get its act together, it's a dead cert for the following election... possibly.

AccioMerlot · 08/05/2017 14:26

Agree, 2rebecca, we are in this bloody cycle where every time the administration changes they spend a fortune doing whatever their pet projects are in NHS/education etc etc, and before we have the chance to see how effective they are, oops! We change government (or PM) and someone new's pet projects are wasting money all over the place.

IMO the one miniscule good thing about Brexit is it's going to take up so much time, money and energy of the government, they might not get the chance to fuck up other stuff.

makeourfuture · 08/05/2017 14:26

Were you here for the Foot era?

There is a lot to remember about Foot. Here is Michael defending against Churchill's move to limit freedom of the press:

Thankfully freedom won on that day.

Radishal · 08/05/2017 14:29

As I have said before, Foot was a decent if unelectable man. Intellectually far superior to the tired left wing hack ideas of JC.
JC plays to his audience which is shrinking by the day. Labour won't win the election and we will be faced with 5 more years of the Tories.
This is on JC . Not on the electorate.

makeourfuture · 08/05/2017 14:33

you should hang your head in shame because your political naievety or indeed foolishness has cost real people much heartache with more years to come.

Perhaps I am naive...I still believe in things like fair treatment of the sick and disadvantaged, worker's rights, equality and strong support of public institutions like education and health.

If that damns me as naive then throw your best at me....I won't so easily leave these things.

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