Seriously, is there ^anyone^ on MN who does not want Labour to win on June 8?

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Come out, come out wherever you are!
I know it will mean you will be attacked and preached at, you will be told you are rich, uncaring and hate everyone except yourself, but will anyone stand with me and admit to planning on voting Conservative on June 8?
I can't be the only one surely? I didn't vote the Conservatives in by myself in 2015!

I'd rather eat my own eyeballs than vote conservative. Vile bunch of snobs. May is a hypocrite and has no idea what she is doing. She looks like a deer in headlights every time she is asked a question. Utter shambles. She clearly isn't up for the job and makes a real mess of it. I don't feel that because we both have vaginas I should some how fawn at her feet.

Such a shame Labour don't have a stronger leader, I will be voting Lib Dem.

MrsGrinch, can you elaborate on exactly how conservatives are A Vile Bunch Of Snobs? Or is s it just a throwaway comment with no substance?

Ms thanks. It has a lot of substace. I live in a tory strong hold, the snobbery is disgusting. My mother is included in this. I can honestly say I have never met anyone who openly vote conservative, that doesn't spout ridiculous judgemental things about benefits/foreigners/disabled people. Usually along the lines of "how much money they have".

Tory voters aren't voting for your mum or any other Tory voters MrsGrinch, they're voting for their candidates

You shouldn't vote based on which other voters gang you wanna be in, you should vote for candidates, policies and parties

unless you're in some labour voters circles in which case you make sure you virtue signal your labour voting to each other at every possible opportunity like teenagers showing off their matching designer gear

I am a teacher and I am voting conservatives despite totally and utterly HATING their education policy.

There is more to my life, and the life of my family, than education and therefore I do not base my decisions solely on that.

Brexit is going to be the biggest influence in all our lives over the next few years. TBH, I don't think ANYONE knows exactly how it is going to turn out BUT one thing I do know is that we NEED a strong leader to see us through it and Jeremy Corbyn is not it.

In fact, I am surprised that he is a Labour Leader. He strikes me as an idealist. His ideas, his claims, his vision are full of unicorn shit that belongs in cloud cuckoo land in that place they call 'Over the Rainbow'. I commend him for having such beautiful and utopian views but I am not sorry to say but I am a realist. I live on planet Earth; the real world.

A few years ago Labour were responsible for plunging this country into a financial mess. They spent lots of money, mainly giving it all to the workshy, and then forgot to pay it back - in truth. They STILL want to spend lots of money to make everyone's lives 'prettier and colourful'. It's lovely. They have no idea about money. Take Diane Abbott's two car crashes this week. Get £30 million and £80 million confused ... okay .... can be slightly let of but £300 thousand against £80 million????? Clearly not the brightest of buttons when it came to mathematics at school. That was the biggest deciding factor for me not to vote Labour.

Also Jeremy Corbyn on the world stage with leaders who are far more manipulative, brutal and intelligent than he is????? My Y1 class would squash him in any debate and then show Diane Abbott how Math is done!

I will stick with someone who is strong willed, determined, a proven leader and can stick twos up at any leader who dares challenge them.

If you want someone who is truthful, has integrity and loyal on the world stage fighting for our country then JC is definitely not it. Russia would have moved in within 18 months You are definitely a bit cuckoo in the head if you think we need someone like him. The world is brutal - especially when it comes to leadership, security, trade deals etc, etc. You need someone who is just as cunning as the rest of them to lead us and keep us ahead of the game.

god yes. if corbyn ever gets in, this rat is fleeing the sinking ship. and taking its higher rate taxes with it!

@bangingmyheadoffabrickwall

This - exactly. Too many people with heads in the clouds. Tories not perfect but the alternative?!?! FML.

brickwall, both of my parents are teachers, numerous family friends and friends are teachers and I am hearing the same from them as in your post. The vast majority of them also work in the area most hit by funding cuts too. But they understand, like you, that they have a responsibility to these children to contribute to a better future, not one where everyone is "entitled".

Growing up and working in a deprived area has massively impacted on how I and my parents view things - particularly the welfare system and the apathy it has created.

A few years ago Labour were responsible for plunging this country into a financial mess

Labour didn't cause the global recession.

Headdesk at all the strong stable leader bollocks

Labour didn't cause the global recession.

Oh yay more hyperbole

No they didn't cause the global recession. They also didn't future proof the public services they're now saying they'll protect. They did the opposite and fortunes, FORTUNES were spent on silly projects instead of making sure the services were running in a sustainable fashion. Chopping and changing was constant in public services under labour instead of taking care of the basics.

So no they didn't cause the storm, i.e. the global recession, but they were leaving ALL the windows open all the time so all the heat poured out, which meant when the storm came it blew through the house causing lots of damage!

The tories wanted more deregulation of the banks, not less! You really think we would've been in a better position with them in charge?

bangingmyhead That's all very well, but the fact is, the current Tory administration is going to take every vote as a seal of approval on their austerity policies, including slashing education, health and social care to the bone.

Please; vote Lib Dem, Green, Independent, Monster Raving Loony, hell, even UKIP - but just don't give May the rubber stamp of your voting approval, because the Conservatives will take every single vote as an indication they are doing the right thing.

And I don't actually think we need a 'strong leader' to see us through Brexit.

I think we need a flexible, non-dogmatic, negotiator to see us through.

Someone who is willing to listen to opinions from all across the UK, and its territories, on how we should manage this huge event.

Someone with the diplomatic skills to talk to Europe in a language they can understand and get us out on friendly terms with the best deal possible.

Theresa May is not that person.

Agree. Theresa May has not got the skills to deal with the EU at all. A vote for the Tories is a vote towards abolishing the NHS. Even if you don't like Corbyn, you should vote Labour for your children to have free healthcare and a decent education.Also tracking will take off enormously under the Tories.Then there are all the disabled and sick people and their carers literally dying at the hands of the evil Tory cuts. The short sightedness and selfishness of Tory voters both depresses and sickens me.

Damn autocorrect!! FRACKING

Can I ask when this mantra about Labour saving the NHS first took hold? And when the belief that the Tories were determined to abolish the NHS? Both are a bandied around on threads like these all the time, but I can see no substance to either claim. The NHS has survived quite a few Tory governments since it started and I am not aware of any huge changes for the better in the NHS during Labour terms. Can someone enlighten me?

There are quotes out there which i hope someone else finds as I am off to work.

Am saving your post to show you again when they privatise the NHS

The NHS mantra is their usual ploy when desperate. The Tories, under that Yorkshire bloke did it about "saving the pound ".
No workable ideas. Let's scare people.

Wait and see

Although been waiting 7 years for Tories to improve it instead of hastening its decline.

I agree. I vote Conservative and like most Tories we want an NHS. There is no aim to abolish it.
May is the centre ground and the best of the bunch.
May has shown huge political experience and will do fine in the process of Brexit. If we cannot negotiate a deal by 2019 then we fall back on the basic legal position as to who pays what.

My worst experience of the NHS was while Labour was in power. Keogh Report stuff that happened to me. My Mum was recently seriously ill and subsequently died while Tories in power. It was a little better, at least in terms of how responsive they were to concerns. When I raised concerns during my serious illness, I was spoken to like I was a heretic daring to criticise the sainted NHS and its sainted priests and nuns.

Anecdata

The converse has been true for me and many many people. Err see the news.