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To wonder what would happen if Corbyn et al did win the GE next month?

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MsGameandWatch · 04/05/2017 15:58

As asked by my 14 year old son and his friends today?

Would be an utter disaster, country in turmoil and ruins according to my ex H. What worse than now?

They'll reverse everything, sort this country right out according to majority of my FB friends.

Personally I want anything that'd different from the present status quo but don't think for one second thing labour will get a majority.

We know what the Tories are doing but what would Labour actually do? Would they, could they reverse Brexit? Would they could they pour substantial funds into the NHS? Are they even able to form an efficient government?

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Justanotherlurker · 05/05/2017 18:11

fairy stories and fiction

If that was directed at me, then please point out the fiction, I will wait for the fairy stories.

Justanotherlurker · 05/05/2017 18:12

Ignore me Blush

SquidgeyMidgey · 05/05/2017 18:34

Anyone who has a choice and earns over about £40k would leave the country or stop working so hard as they would tax high earnings at such a rate that it wouldn't be worth the effort this

We'd be off sharpish. DH, highly trained specialist engineer, was offered a job in Austria during the recession and it's still an open door. The Reds will say 'oh bye then, dont want you anyway' but if enough go, who will pay the bills to fund all the glorious ideals? People spit feathers about the likes of DH earning what is a fair wage for his level of expertise but he's damned well earned it. If you drive away the people who earn enough to pay top rate tax then you lose the income of their tax and moreover the economy driving skills they retain. It's incredibly short sighted to think that to financially nail the higher earners is a shortcut to the country's finances being in clover.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 05/05/2017 19:45

christinarossetti we know Corbyn is inept, not up to the job and incompetent as we have seen him leading a pathetically poor opposition for the last 18 months

I've heard shadow Health and Education policies as with all policies they are not backed up with substantial plans on how they will be implemented apart from a Rose in tax for those better off and to business and scraping trident that money is going an awfully long way

The Tories don't need to win over voters Labour do and they simply are not

the press isn't going to get behind a Labour leader but that doesn't mean the labour leader doesn't have to listen to public opinion and ignore the fact of poor poll results or loss of voters

christinarossetti · 05/05/2017 23:51

Indeed, the money currently being spent on Trident and not collected in corporation tax would go a long way.

It would find education and healthcare and all those pesky public services that the Tories seem to see as a distraction from the real job of making their rich friends richer.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 06/05/2017 00:05

And renationalising the railways, pay increase for NHS staff and supply more staff, increase police officers by what 25000, supporting small companies with the increase in basic wage, replace the trident industry and all the jobs connected to it with the money saved

I'm sure there is many more to be added

Lovemygirls2015 · 06/05/2017 00:12

I don't think he's strong enough to be PM (but neither is May, she's just a Tory puppet that can't even do an interview without it being scripted for her)but I do support many of his policies. I think the NHS would be far safer and the banks would never been bailed out in the way they were and a lot of public services would be far better off but only if they instilled the old fashioned labour policies instead of what happened under Blair

christinarossetti · 06/05/2017 07:14

There's plenty of money in the system. Heck, they can even just print more like they did to bail the banks out during the 2008 global financial crisis.

Austerity is ideological. The deficit has grown considerably under the current government, with no benefit to the great majority of the population.

Prioritising education, health and public services has my vote, rather pissing money up the wall fiddling around with the benefit system that costs way more than it actually 'save' the treasury.

Aka universal credit, EMA,bedroom tax etc

SeaWitchly · 07/05/2017 17:25

I'm sick of the way this country is not recognising just how disenfranchised large parts of the population are. A vote for Corbyn will go a long way to dilute the hard right element in the Conservative party. People keep saying that he wants a utopia. No, just decent public services. We are all paying for this but the cuts are getting worse and worse. We are living in food bank Britain. Apparently it's reasonable to suggest to people if you can't feed your family go to a food bank. When did this suddenly become acceptable and ok? I don't think it is. It's not n expensive utopia to expect children to be fed and have a decent education. If Corbyn is going to do something to address those inequalities he will always get my vote. People need to listen to what he's actually saying instead of half taking it in.

^This in spades.

And I am also sick of those who talk crap about a Jeremy Corbyn led Labour government bankrupting the country and 'magic money trees' when the Tories have tripled the national debt and slashed benefits to the most vulnerable in our society whilst introducing tax breaks for the wealthiest Hmm

I wish people would stop with regurgitating the spin from the Daily Mail, Sun, Telegraph et al and start researching this for themselves.
Then if you still truly believe the Tories are the best choice for the British people, fine, vote for them wholeheartedly and with a clear conscience.
But don't just swallow Lynton Crosby's right wing rhetoric wholesale.

SeaWitchly · 07/05/2017 17:34

I don't think he's strong enough to be PM

I cannot think of another politician who could take the relentless flack thrown at him by the mainstream media, jeering from the Tory back benches and from within his own party and the likes of Boris Buffoon Johnson and still be standing tall and not allowing his principles to be watered down by those who would see Labour revert to Tory lite.
Quiet, stoic, patient resilience is a very admirable British quality and Jeremy Corbyn has this in spades. I think he will be an outstanding asset in negotiation of brexit with the EU and managing the narcissist Donald Trump. Much better than Boris Johnson's hyperbolic grandstanding or Theresa May's arrogant and aggressive stance.

babybarrister · 07/05/2017 17:42

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Justanotherlurker · 07/05/2017 17:55

SeaWitchly

I suggest you look into the the scenario of deficit and debt, then when you have a handle on that, take a glance at the IFS commending us for reducing this deficit.

The Keynesian approach needs a solid base to start with, also, if you don't want the "Labour bankrupting the economy" rhetoric, get rid of Corbyn, or at least get Corbyn and co to actually provide some proper costings other then "tax the rich", the corporation tax has already been spent on many projects that Dianne Abbot said Labour hasn't promised any thing to anybody yet!!

We are a globalised world now, and after having many discussions at work with many Corbynistas at work seem to be of the understanding that the laffer curve is some right wing conspiracy (despite it shown on a macro level in france previously) shows that "Bankrupting the economy" is a fair assumption.

Radishal · 07/05/2017 18:42

"Quiet, stoic, patient resilience is a very admirable British quality and Jeremy Corbyn has this in spades. "
No he's just out of his depth and scared he's going to get found out.
If he'd had any moral courage he would have shouted down (or even gently talked down) that twerp at the launch of their antisemitism report.
He just enjoys the chaos and can't lead his way around a supermarket.

SeaWitchly · 10/05/2017 12:51

Radishal, well he seems to be okay with talking to the common man on the street and doesn't need stage managed events at factories where the regular staff have all gone home and journalists are only allowed to ask pre-approved questions of the Prime Minister Hmm

Radishal · 10/05/2017 13:01

Being chummy doesn't stop him being someone who indulges antisemitism. I can't get past that just because he is chummy.

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