To wonder what would happen if Corbyn et al did win the GE next month?

[MsGameandWatch]

As asked by my 14 year old son and his friends today?

Would be an utter disaster, country in turmoil and ruins according to my ex H. What worse than now?

They'll reverse everything, sort this country right out according to majority of my FB friends.

Personally I want anything that'd different from the present status quo but don't think for one second thing labour will get a majority.

We know what the Tories are doing but what would Labour actually do? Would they, could they reverse Brexit? Would they could they pour substantial funds into the NHS? Are they even able to form an efficient government?

It amazes me how many on here think it's the people earning 45k a year that are going to feel the pinch and be leaving the country in protest.

We would most likely see a collapse in Sterling, and a wide scale selloff of British assets in the short term. The markets would take a serious hit.

This would have fairly serious economic and financial consequences. We might very well need to support the currency. Interest rates may very well be forced to rise. Imported goods would become more expensive. Foreign investment would dry up or pull out of Britain. The cost of state borrowing would increase; we'd probably see a fairly hefty rise in inflation.

Every cloud, however, has a silver lining. British exports would become cheaper, for example.

Over the medium term, I suspect you would see a wholesale backlash over the Corbyn government that would make it impossible for them to govern. I wouldn't put it past the establishment to carry out some sort of "very British coup" to get rid of him.

So, all in all, there's not really much point in voting for Corbyn because it is not going to lead anywhere, particularly with McDonnell in the side saddle. You know, we are not Venezuela; there's too much wealth invested in Britain for the vampire squids of the world not to care about a Corbyn government.

I'm utterly amazed how many people know that Corbyn is inept, not up for the job or incompetent.

How? The media has given him virtually no platform since before he was even elected party leader. We also hear nothing about the Shadow Education and Health Secretary's policies, for example.

People seem to know he's inept without actually having ever heard or read anything he's said, which is an unusual way to formulate a decision.

I dont think masses would change over night i just think that the Tories privatisation of public services would be halted hopefully. As regards to Brexit i do think he would continue with it but in a less overtly insulting way that wound up peoples racism and caused divide.
I think at this point its just damage control.

How? The media has given him virtually no platform since before he was even elected party leader. We also hear nothing about the Shadow Education and Health Secretary's policies, for example.

Please stop blaming the media, it's tiresome.

There are plenty of people who have heard him speak, looked at his past record and cringed when he has tried to play the press(traingate anyone!) and still think he is inept.

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/voices/jeremy-corbyn-media-bias-labour-mainstream-press-lse-study-misrepresentation-we-cant-ignore-bias-a7144381.html%3Famp

i love the idea of someone who earns 40k thinking they are wealthy enough to LEAVE THE COUNTRY on it.

they don't give a monkeys about you you know? the Tories? you might misguidedly think they do, but they don't. If you have to work then you're next.. when they've run out of poor people, immigrants and the disabled to pick on.

He's opposed cuts to PIP and tax credits, opposed the forced academisation of schools,

Labour started the academisation of schools! Lots of short term memories here...

Quoting the Indy article isn't really a good backup, the Indy has become nothing but clickbait for a while.

But back to the point, tt is his fault to a large extent. If you don't include controversial and ill-thought out statements it's more difficult to misquote you. Everyone knows the media are hostile and Jeremy just walked right into it. Media skills are one of the most important aspects of his job and he's terrible at it.

We also have no idea from the data if this coverage is more or less bias than other leaders, we just have to take the author's word for it. That's not good research!

You may as well just used the Canary to back up your point.

Just I'm not arguing that it's hard scientific data, just that there is certainly questions about the media that need to be addressed instead of shrugging it off.

Believeitornot

People pass the buck to Labour and they accept it.

Labour should take responsibility for resolving “the mess” left behind by private finance initiative (PFI) deals used to fund the building of hospitals under Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, Jeremy Corbyn has said.

^In an article for the Guardian, the Labour leadership frontrunner said the NHS is now paying the price for New Labour having been “cowed by the press, and duped by the money men” when it used private finance for building health projects.

“Labour has a duty to remove the PFI burden from the NHS – this really was our mess, and we have to clear it up,” Corbyn said.^

If the Labour leader is saying that it's Labour's fault but that they should be allowed to sort it out, 1) how can you try to blame the Conservatives 2) how can you justify giving them any kind of control

The most vulnerable would be better off:

www.labour.org.uk/index.php/10-pledges

I just hope the majority of the 13 million disabled people in this country vote Corbyn. Read his pledges, to quote Joey from Friends, what's not to like?

Honestly, if Labour won a convincing victory I would think it heralded then end of all time because it's so unlikely...

what's not to like?

Nothing, but most people want to ask OK, How? thats where it starts to get murky

They've been obliterated in local elections

Justanotherlucker oh if you find criticism and analysis tiresome, then of course it's better than people just believe everything they read.

h if you find criticism and analysis tiresome, then of course it's better than people just believe everything they read.

Don't think I have suggested anything of the sort, i am saying that it is a convenient scape goat, it's nothing new that the press are biased, misrepresent data to suit their agenda, and go on the attack of those on the other side, this is true of all journalism.

Whilst papers do have influence, they also reflect the readership. The fact that print journalism is dead and the whole "fake media" outrage you see that some people want to dictate the narrative.

JC hasn't helped himself, again, there are many people who dislike JC and his shadow cabinet, they haven't been influenced by the spooky "right wing" media... its like saying every supporter of JC reads nothing but the Canary!!

Its a lazy argument.

You only have to watch today's interview with Diane Abbott, or hear her radio interview from the other day, to see that the shadow home secretary isn't up to the job. That's not the media telling us she's rubbish, she does that all by herself. Ditto most interviews with Emily Thornberry. If you show yourself to be inept without anyone's else's help as a shadow cabinet minister, how on earth can you expect people to think you'd be any better if you were doing the job and not just shadowing it?

And Theresa May is? With her 'it's us against Johnny Foreigner' delusions.

Have the Tory party actually addressed domestic policy at all?

It's not a lazy argument criticising the media. You only need to look at who owns it, their links to government and related commercial interests to see that.

Oh yes, I'd forgptten.

May told Andrew Marr that not being able to afford to buy food wasn't why nurses were using food banks.

Christina Did I say anything positive about the Tories and TM? I don't believe so. Have I ever voted Tory? No. But I do expect front bench and shadow front bench to at least be able to communicate a message and some statistics as it's a basic requirement of the job. Whether I like the message or not!

Have the Tory party actually addressed domestic policy at all?

Tbf parliament was only devolved Tuesday and no one has their manifestos out yet.

It is a lazy argument to say that the media are responsible for the criticism of Corbyn and Labour as they currently stand, and "what about the Tories" is not a valid excuse either.

Time and time and time again it has been pointed out to momentum/JC fans that Corbyn does not have the leadership required to steer a party to electoral victory, let alone lead a country during one of the most important political events (Brexit) of the last 20 years.

MPs, members of his own shadow cabinet, independent aides, former supporters in the media - all have come to realise he is a man out of his depth, at best. And that's without touching on the large number of dubious connections, statements, and positions he has held throughout his life.

Labour currently does have a raft of good policies - but that's not enough. As much as it may disgust you, a significant number of people in this country do not want Corbyn as a prime minister, regardless of Labour's policies. He really is that much of a liability. He continues to be a liability, has done nothing to stop the hemorraging of Labour votes in by-elections, and once again has overseen loses at local election level. The buck stops with the leader, and the leader is a liability hurting Labour's chances.

He hasn't brought in huge numbers of working class supporters - Labour member continues to be predominately middle-class, and the socio-economic make-up of the membership has barely changed.
If the man had even an ounce of leadership in him, he'd have the good sense to support fresh blood and stand aside. But he hasn't, as if only he can move Labour to the left. That is a lazy, selfish, weak, and unsustainable attitude to have.

Does your 14 year old know about fairy stories and fiction?

It would be interesting.... image Trump and Corbin at post Brexit (if EU will let us go with him in charge!) trade talks!