To let my DD walk on the wall?

[PrincessWatermelon]

Like any other children, my 2 DDs (2 and 4) love walking on garden walls. There are some especially good ones near the school. No one has told us off, but I do wonder what the 'done thing' is. Obviously I'm careful they only walk on a sturdy wall and don't touch/harm any plants/fences, etc. Do you think this is ok or AIBU?

I let my son walk on the ones in communal areas but wouldn't on people's garden walls.

I suspect the wall climbers from toddler years are now those irritating teenagers who think it's perfectly ok to sit on peoples walls in huge gangs smoking, swearing and generally being quite intimidating and anti-social.

😂 I have heard it all now

I suspect the wall climbers from toddler years are now those irritating teenagers who think it's perfectly ok to sit on peoples walls in huge gangs smoking, swearing and generally being quite intimidating and anti-social.

I would love to see the peer-reviewed double-blind research on this.

Huppopapa and when said child hurts themselves on said wall who will you be moaning at then? The homeowner for not warning that wall was unsafe?

I suspect the wall climbers from toddler years are now those irritating teenagers who think it's perfectly ok to sit on peoples walls in huge gangs smoking, swearing and generally being quite intimidating and anti-social.

We all have our theories

If you know your wall is unsafe and liable to collapse, then you should fix it or knock it down. A wall should be able to bear the weight of a child walking on it or an adult, even an obese one, leaning on it while waiting for a bus. If it's not, then you deserve all you get.

But this isn't about that. It's about whether people should allow their children to walk on garden walls. I wouldn't because I know it annoys many people and I don't want to cause annoyance.

Of course I should repair my wall and get railings on it.

I'll do that just as soon as I've planted the magical money tree in my garden.

I completely understand not having the money to do all the things I want or need to do. But if my wall collapsed and injured someone, I'd have to take the consequences so I have to bite the bullet.

I was annoyed when I had to pay to repair my railings that were damaged through vandalism. I had better things to spend my money on. But as they'd left a toddler-sized gap from the street to a 15ft drop onto the concrete basement, I did it just in case.

Those are the downsides of property ownership. There are some upsides.

sadly the UK law is shit in this regad landowners are responsable for everything that happens on their properity in so far if a buglur happens to injury themselves on your property they can sue you and win.

So even if the way doesnt fall down but the child falls off and smashes there head / injury themselves on your garden path simply because they were walking on the wall they can sue you and win as they could argue that the path was dangerous or the wall since it was climbable / walking about you were negilent and thus responeable for any injury

(but you can be sued as well if you have anti climb measures in place too )

I would love to see the peer-reviewed double-blind research on this.

If you find a way to blind toddlers or teens so they don't know if they belong to the wall-walking and wall-sitting group you'll revolutionise science.

I wonder what would happen to someone who posted: My brakes are dodgy but I can't afford to get them fixed. AIBU in expecting pedestrians to realise they might be killed because I can't stop in time?

worridmum stop worrying. If you take reasonable precautions, you may be sued, but the plaintiff won't get anywhere.

oh and dont own fields or woodland ether as people can sue you if they fall down animal holes, like the case a national park was sued because some idiot wasnt looking were we was going a fell in a badge or rabbit hole and broke there leg and successfully sued as apprently you need to fill these holes in a nature reserve......

If you know your wall is unsafe and liable to collapse, then you should fix it or knock it down. A wall should be able to bear the weight of a child walking on it or an adult, even an obese one,

Totally, totally disagree. Dry stone walls are everywhere where I live. They will not totally collapse if you walk along them, but they will be damaged. No they should not all be knocked down because some people are idiots.

limited you are being ridiculous. If a child walked along my 100 year old wall, it would not collapse, but yes it could damage it. The same way a child walking across my car could damage it.

Limited you can choose not to drive a car with dodgy brakes. If people respected other people's property and asked before climbing the wall I could choose to say 'no'.

A better analogy would be - my car has dodgy brakes. Obviously I'm not driving it at the moment and intend to get it fixed when I can afford it. However AIBU to continue to own the car, as someone else might take it into their head to drive it without permission?

My answer : not unreasonable, people shouldn't be using your property without your permission.

sorry limited i was just highlighting some of the cases i have had / seen during my time as a soicilistor and highlighting that their is no such thing as common sense in some cases.

they can sue you and win as they could argue that the path was dangerous or the wall since it was climbable

That's bullshit, worrid. People would be suing everyone else if that was the case.

i was just highlighting some of the cases i have had / seen during my time as a soicilistor and highlighting that their is no such thing as common sense in some cases.

You were a soicilistor?

I don't have a wall but if I did please feel free to use it!

I was and still am sorry about the spelling i am dyselixic and not on my laptop with my spell checker

maintaining a garden wall includes not abusing and walking on it

How are you supposed to maintain it if other people keep adding and causing damage?

We not talking about dry stone walls or ancient monuments or ledges 100ft up on the outside of buildings. We are talking in the main about garden walls in suburbia.

I don't think it is polite to allow your child to walk on those walls. It annoys people and can cause some damage - I'm thinking about ornamental features such as coping stones, that get chipped and cracked because it's not a walking surface. But the integrity of the wall should hold. If it doesn't, it shouldn't be there.

If you choose to have a wall you know is liable to collapse if a child stood on it, then it is the same as choosing to drive a car with brakes that don't allow you to stop in what the police would think was an acceptable stopping distance.

People walk out in front of cars. Children climb on walls. It is reasonable to expect that.

brasty no reasonable person would expect someone to walk on a car. But most reasonable people would expect someone, particularly a child, to walk on a wall.

Nearly all of us have done it. It's what children do. I'm only saying 'nearly' in case you are the only person I've every met who has never walked on a wall as a kid.

Therefore it is reasonable to expect most walls - not dry stone walls or ancient monuments - to be able to withstand the weight of a child. They may damage them. My mum who loved all children, was driven potty by people who allowed their children to damage the ornamental features on her garden wall and didn't apologise or cough up. That's why you shouldn't allow your children to walk on garden walls.

I was annoyed when someone vandalised my 150 year old railings. They'd even gone through the Blitz. But when they were broken and presented a danger to innocent passersby I had to bite the bullet and pay for them to be fixed.

That's the deal with property ownership

I agree many people lack common sense worridmum. But as a solicitor, dyslexic or not, wouldn't you agree that the overwhelming majority of speculative claims fail?