WTAF???? DH has just done this...

[ArsenalsPlayingAtHome]

I know I am NBU but I just need to see if everyone else would be as fuming as I am.

DH has just picked DCs up from school. Last night DH cooked delicious roast chicken dinner. He was in charge of clearing up afterwards. There were two chicken pieces which he left on the hob in the roasting tin. I thought he was going to give them to the dog.

DD aged 7yrs has just come upto me and told me that she's just eaten two pieces of chicken and it was delicious!

I've checked...DH didn't heat up the chicken, which has been on the top of the hob in our warm kitchen, *(ie not in the fridge) for approximately 10 hours.

I thought she'd just swiped them, but no, DH gave them her to eat. FFS!

My dh eats old takeaway without it being in the fridge. He's also fed it to my dd. I'd be more cross that he didn't put it in the fridge after last night!

i think he was stupid BUT if the chicken was fully cooked that is the Critical control point, All bacteria should have been killed as Campylobacter and Salmonella are quite easily killed by heat and even if its been out all night there should not be a significant build up of bacteria unless there was some cross contamination, As this is unlikely from what you have told us and there should be no serious side effects . just keep any eye on her for the next few days

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Food-poisoning/Pages/Causes.aspx

I wouldn't have eaten it nor fed it to a child! Bacteria city if not refrigerated as soon as possible.
Maybe Google consequences for your dh to read? He would be cleaning up if dd was ill! It can take several days to be unwell 😷
Good luck

What part was being sarcastic in your opinion?

Of course there are diarrhea viruses.

There's more danger of contamination in a busy kitchen than on your own kitchen if the meat was left undisturbed. Also less humidity and less heat in a normal kitchen.

No, I'm not a medic. Doctors often don't get much about the germs themselves. :)

I am funny about chicken (i.e. Not being cooked properly) YABU. It will do her no harm.

E. Coli, for example (heard of that one Lweji?) grows happily at room temperature. Not as well as at body temperature but it still grows.

Lweji - why are you so insistent that people don't follow the researched guidelines that say no more than 4 hours at room temperature?

E. Coli, for example (heard of that one Lweji?) grows happily at room temperature. Not as well as at body temperature but it still grows.

What IS E. Coli?

There is E. coli, though.

Not as well as at body temperature but it still grows

Yes, that was my point. See earlier post. So?
Have you grown E. coli? I have.
Have you tried it in a dry bit of agar? At room temperature? Good luck.

YANBU
Daddy useful link.

Food hygiene courses recommend high risk foods should be refrigerated quickly after cooking. The bin after 3-4 hours non-refrigeration rule is straightforward and I didn't realise wasn't common place.

It may not kill this time, but food poisoning can kill.

Crikey! Is she ok? I imagine she is, but I GET IT !! He is probably always doing stuff like this and you just can't understand why he doesn't learn how to be responsible? Well, I'm assuming he's a man? Right?......`You gotta relax! I need to take my own advice!!!!!!!!!

Lweji - sorry but I'm not getting your point about Breathe's spelling of E. coli? Is it because she capitalised the C?? Just because the phone just autocorrects it this way? As mine did? You are petty and bitter and endangering people here. There is official NHS advice Daddy just pointed everyone to and this should be the end of this thread

The most shocking thing about this thread is the amount of people who seem to think the OP's husband deserves some sort of award for cooking and cleaning up after his own family. The amount of women who honestly subscribe to this outdated shite is horrifying.

This is why Daddymcdadface put the link up. Not to justify the panic about this leftover chicken.

i think he was stupid BUT if the chicken was fully cooked that is the Critical control point, All bacteria should have been killed as Campylobacter and Salmonella are quite easily killed by heat and even if its been out all night there should not be a significant build up of bacteria unless there was some cross contamination, As this is unlikely from what you have told us and there should be no serious side effects . just keep any eye on her for the next few days

As for the E. Coli, she deserved the comment about spelling, after the tone of her post.

But keep glossing over the fact that E. coli don't like dry environments to grow.

There was nothing wrong with the tone of her post. Clearly, she is an expert and knows what she is talking about. My phone autocorrected the spelling the same way - it's so petty to pick on this so insignificant.

I'd be exactly the same as you, OP.

Beef left out maybe, chicken, nope! Don't know why, it's just that eating raw chicken is bad for us, eating undercooked chicken is bad for us, eating frozen, cooked, reheated, frozen, cooked again, thrown up the garden, retrieved by a willing Labrador, placed back onto kitchen work surface, is bloody well bad for us!

I totally get you, OP. I'd be making a shocked face too.

Chicken would go in the fridge in this house. If it had been left out overnight to the bin it would go.

I was responding to the tone of all your posts. And I'm interested why you didn't answer my second part and just nit picked at autocorrect instead.

Fume if she's sick and not before.

There was nothing wrong with the tone of her post.
Really? See:

E. Coli, for example (heard of that one Lweji?)

And I'm interested why you didn't answer my second part and just nit picked at autocorrect instead.

And I answered this (which followed the bitchy question), and had addressed it earlier:
*grows happily at room temperature. Not as well as at body temperature but it still grows.

and as this was that second part:
Lweji - why are you so insistent that people don't follow the researched guidelines that say no more than 4 hours at room temperature?

I'm not. It's not ideal, but I'm putting some perspective on this specific situation. And my assessment is that there was no need to panic about it, or be angry at the father. Certainly not much greater risk than if the chicken had been in the fridge. Unless the OP and her family don't wash their hands when they go to the toilet.

Don't worry. Dd(og) will be disappointed, but will get over it.
Use it as a life lesson.

I'm with the slightly fuming camp on this, but at least now you know to look for signs of illness. He needs a good telling off from the food fairy. Standards are in place because people in the past have been seriously affected, and it's no good just saying things like "we didn't all die before we had fridges", because some people did die. The probability is that your child will be fine, but your hubby has been a twit and should have known better.

Careless and I would agree with if she does get an upset stomach, then he needs to deal with it. The only danger is, she doesn't get an upset tum and he will gloat saying told you she'll be alright......until next time.

Your post makes it sound like your husband had done something terrible
It's not good practice but if she's not sick within an hour your chicken source was either lucky or good clean butcher

We do this all the time. Never got I'll from it.

I love how people make up details and it all escalates on mn.. Nowhere did op say the dog was going to be fed chicken bones