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To think the tide may be turning...

447 replies

Goldenhandshake · 24/04/2017 09:09

Apparently under twenty fives have been registering to vote in high numbers, assuming because lots of Tory policies have hit this age group negatively. AIBU to feel optimistic that they will turn out to vote and possibly prove the poll predictions wrong?

Any under 25's here who have registered with this intention?

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Justanotherlurker · 27/04/2017 19:34

Recent poll changes, Labour up, Conservatives down

Polls are OK when they go in our favour, JC surge!!! only another 10% to go before they even start to look effective Grin

They should have ran an article on the "This Morning" poll, JC had better gains Grin

I'm just ribbing but it's not significant yet is it.

Dawndonnaagain · 27/04/2017 19:55

No, but it does signify a change.

Grin

notusualmnname · 27/04/2017 19:56

A trend that will hopefully continue...

Justanotherlurker · 27/04/2017 22:16

A trend that will hopefully continue...

Totally agree, cons will keep around 20% in front.

Dawndonnaagain · 27/04/2017 22:28

Totally agree, cons will keep around 20% in front.
Oi! Not before bed, I have rotten nightmares as it is!

HelenaDove · 27/04/2017 23:05

Shes obviously never heard of reproductive coercion Dawndonna.

ginghambox · 27/04/2017 23:39

You can get 8-1 on JC being next PM put your money where your mouth is.

Valentine2 · 27/04/2017 23:56

I have yet o see any under 35 yet who is voting Tory. I might as well be in a bubble but it's still quite funmy that ALL of them look like they will be voting non-Tory candidates essentially.
Can anyone please discuss the potential of an alliance between LibDem and Labour? Corbyn hasn't ruled it out I think. So I am not sure how that will affect if people want to do tactical voting (my area).

Toadinthehole · 28/04/2017 01:50

The Lib Dems have ruled out an alliance with Labour, at least during the election. I daresay if there was a hung parliament they would enter talks with Labour (and others) as that would be the responsible thing to do. Hopefully they would drive a harder bargain this time, for the sake of their voters. However, a hung parliament looks extremely unlikely.

Big pity that the LDs never overtook Labour in the 80s & 90s in my view. We'd have had more progressive governments if they had.

Peregrina · 28/04/2017 07:06

If PR was so dangerous, you'd imagine that maybe the Germans would have ditched it - but they haven't.

What they have ditched is Referendums.

FrenchLavender · 28/04/2017 07:30

Valentine I know someone early 20s who intends to vote Tory. I know someone else of the same age who spouts lots of 'up the workers' red or dead, far left type nonsense and would not dream of voting Tory because he believes capitalism is the font of all evil.

Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on your viewpoint) he can't be arsed to register to vote Labour either, because he'd rather sit in a room smoking weed and pontificating about the evils of capitalism and all that is wrong with the world and refusing to be part of the gullible establishment rather than using his vote to change anything.

And therein lies Labour problem I think. Too many ineffectual dreamers and ranters and idealists without much of clue about how to achieve what a functioning economy needs and not enough doers and thinkers willing to get on and do it in a way that is actually sustainable in the long term.

And when questioned a bit further on his politics it's clear he hasn't really thought much through beyond 'capitalism is evil' and cannot discuss at length anything to do with the specific political issues we face in the U.K today. Just lots of hot, red air. And weed smoke.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 28/04/2017 07:37

I can't see Corbyn working with the LD's

He would rather keep Labour in opposition than form an alliance with a central party so Labour could stay true to some left ideology that would make them as bad as Blair's government and we know how much he and the left hated Labour then

I don't believe he is particularly ambitious to be PM but he is to change Labour and to rid the party of Labour MP's who are more to the centre

Dawndonnaagain · 28/04/2017 07:54

You can get 8-1 on JC being next PM put your money where your mouth is.
I'm benefit scrounging scum so betting is out of the question, I'm already feckless!

French Don't be so silly, so you know a stoner, big deal. That's not Labour's problem, there are plenty of young people who aren't stoners, who have registered to vote. There are also plenty of stoners who will be voting.

mundoespanol · 28/04/2017 09:05

Hopefully everyone will get politically engaged - young and old. My friend is a primary school teacher and was told off by a few parents for discussing the EU vote with the kids as they dont want their kids to know about politics as they are not political families- how ridiculous! Just because parents dont care about their lives doesnt mean the kids have to grow up ignorant fools!
Unfortunately I hate the way our voting system works here, it is not proper democracy. I like our local MP but still not sure I want to vote for the party he represents, why cant we vote for the local MP and for the party we want in power like many other countries do?! So frustrating! Lets see who wins, they all end up being the same because of all the lobbying that happens by big businesses, and lets not forget deals with Saudi Arabia and oil companies.

falange · 28/04/2017 10:02

Mundoespanol. Really???? So parents who don't want politics discussed in a primary school don't care about their own lives and they are ignorant fools? How do you know that?

JustifiedAncientofMooMoo · 28/04/2017 10:26

Primary school in my experience is not the place. The teachers I have come across seem to lack the skills to be neutral.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 28/04/2017 12:10

I think we will have a problem with voters being fed up with politics Scottish Referendum, General Election then EU Referendum

It may get younger voters who are unhappy about us leaving the EU more interested but are they going to vote Labour, SNP, LibDem or tactically

Low voter turnout at the moment is expected this is better for the Tories as their supporters are more likely to vote

Badbadbunny · 28/04/2017 12:29

Primary school in my experience is not the place. The teachers I have come across seem to lack the skills to be neutral.

Same with secondary schools. At my son's school, the religion/ethics teacher is an ex-local politician who was council leader for a term. There's no way he'll be able to be impartial in the classroom with a political background like that.

My son also tells me of other teachers who make political comments in the classroom when they're nothing at all to do with the subject being taught. You have to question why the teachers (who are always claim they don't have time to teach) manage to find time during a lesson to have a rant about politics? Apparently, his current Physics teacher is worst for this, constantly mentioned yesterday's latest media headlines. FFS, just get on with teaching your subject!!!!

BelleTheSheepdog · 28/04/2017 12:33

Secondary English persuasion e essays are a minefield too if you've brought up your child to explore ideas and develop them over time.

BelleTheSheepdog · 28/04/2017 12:33

Persuasive, sorry.

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