To think the tide may be turning...

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Apparently under twenty fives have been registering to vote in high numbers, assuming because lots of Tory policies have hit this age group negatively. AIBU to feel optimistic that they will turn out to vote and possibly prove the poll predictions wrong?

Any under 25's here who have registered with this intention?

Am I the only one on here that isn't basing knowledge of actual teenagers and what they are really like on their own children/ DC's circle of friends/ media tropes??

I meet legions of them on a daily basis.

Yes, I am alarmed that some of them will soon be voting. But I am just as alarmed that my 44 year old BIL has a vote...

I'd love to think the tide might be turning but it's impossible to know. Like most people I tend to search for news I find reassuring, particularly as I find the world so terrifying at the moment. The media is so biased to the right I wonder how people who have little general interest in politics can possibly find the objective information they need to make their choice. Corbyn gets such appalling press it will be a miracle if he wins.

On the subject of elections I don’t know how campaigns can be allowed to get away with lies, eg the leave campaign with its promise of extra funding for the NHS. (I know several people who voted Brexit to support the NHS). The NHS was well funded a decade ago and is now struggling, underfinanced, under resourced and approaching a crisis through a lack of trained staff (despite thousands of highly qualified A level students failing to get places to train at medical school this year). This problem will haunt us, not least because many non UK medical staff who no longer feel secure in Britain are heading back to Europe.

I dread the Tories holding power, with the terrible implications that has for the economy, education, the NHS and the ever widening gap between rich and poor.

I feel very sorry for young people. I have teenagers (one just turned 18 so she will have a vote) and they and their friends do discuss politics. The worry is they may just feel too hopeless and bewildered to get involved.

Harold Wilson gave the vote to 18-20 year olds, of which I was a beneficiary. He assumed we would be left leaning. He assumed wrong and Ted Heath won.

However, I was pretty well clued up by the time I was sixteen. Those from households where politics is discussed will be. Those from households where apathy rules, probably won't be.

Impossible the media is not biased to the right?!?
Are you serious????
The reason why Corbyn gets bad press is because he would make an awful pm!
The last thing we need is a labour coalition government messing up the Brexit process.
We need to keep going in the same direction not backwards

We will just have to rely on the Tories to mess up Brexit; they have done a good job so far. How anyone can think that Fox, Davis and Johnson are competent is beyond me.

Labour will never win whilst Corbyn is in charge. They would have far more chance with a moderate leader instead of a looney leftie. They just need to ditch Corbyn.

Brexit seems to be what a lot of labour voters are switching to the Tories are citing. Do they realise it's also about the NHS? Talk about throwing out the baby with the bath water.

Do you have a link to the research that backs up that claim? Genuinely interested, as the teenagers and young people I know through my DC don't fit that profile at all.
I would be interested in seeing that research too. I have DC in that age group and none of their friends will vote Tory. They are very politically engaged, with one or two exceptions, and have a lot of concerns about the environment, which they discuss in relation to Brexit. Where they seem to lack knowledge is around actual processes, eg. how FPTP works, what whips are etc.

Errrr! ......and who will they actually vote for?!?! Corbyn, who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery?!.... or maybe that awful LibDem who doesn't know what he stands for and ignores the voting public?! Either way, we are leaving the EU! Either way, our public services are stretched and need cross party cooperation in all areas in order to move forward. I think Theresa May is our best hope! Let's not complicate things further.......

ilovvechoc No idea where you're living but there is a very definite right wing bias to the British Press.

For the first time I have absolutely no idea who to vote for. (I am well over 25 BTW!)

We need to keep going in the same direction not backwards
As far as many of us are concerned, Brexit is all about going backwards.

Please explain how the media is right wing bias?

How is Brexit going backwards? It's the best thing that's happened to this country In a long time!

Either way, our public services are stretched and need cross party cooperation in all areas in order to move forward.

1. On past form i.e. since 2010, not going back to the wartime coalition, what have you seen the Conservatives do to ensure that our public services are not stretched?

2. Give me some examples where Theresa May has co-operated with other parties. Don't forget that a significant number of Conservatives voted Remain, yet she has described Remain voters as saboteurs. If she can't even reach out in co-operation to her own party what hope is there for her to reach out to others?

Miami - the raise in state pension age for women was mentioned as far back as 1995 at least. Some people just seem to have ignored it and not planned appropriately.

Errrr! ......and who will they actually vote for?!?! Corbyn, who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery?!.... or maybe that awful LibDem who doesn't know what he stands for and ignores the voting public?! Either way, we are leaving the EU! Either way, our public services are stretched and need cross party cooperation in all areas in order to move forward. I think Theresa May is our best hope! Let's not complicate things further.......
If May is our best hope, God help us all. Her sucking up to the likes of Trump and Erdogan was truly shameful and she seems incapable of speech unless someone else writes it for her ("We want to lead the world in preventing tourism..."). At PMQ, she seems unable to debate, instead resorting to braying and hurling insults. That 'awful LibDem' seems very clear on what he stands for. You might not like what he stands for, but that's a different matter.
Let's not complicate things further? We (not me) voted for a shambles and that's what we got. You can't moan about it now.

ilovechoc It's the best thing that's happened to this country In a long time!
That's an opinion (yours), not a fact. HTH.

On the subject of elections I don’t know how campaigns can be allowed to get away with lies, eg the leave campaign with its promise of extra funding for the NHS.

This "right wing press" meme needs to die, the majority of people go online now and interact in forums/social media, etc. Its just a tactic the general "left" are using to ignore the fact that they are not connecting with people, you can see it's just becoming a get out clause when Momentum protest the New Statesman, and any mild criticism of Corbyn by the gruniad is met with squeals.

Also, as a remainer it wasn't just the Brexitiers pushing lies,spin in the campaign, its juvenile and insulting to presume that anyone voting not how you like have somehow not seen the light.

I suggest you look at some of the right leaning videos on youtube where they interview some of the people at the pro-eu march, its just as cringe worthy and ill informed as straight bananas, take a step back out of your bubble once in a while.

Oh good grief!

Is it really a foregone conclusion? Surely any historically Conservative voting remainers will vote elsewhere? I genuinely hope the tide is turning, Corbyn is a death sentence for labour but can the Lib Dem's pull something off and sieze the vote of the remainers?

I suspect Mrs May might be the 2nd Tory PM in the space of 12 months to totally screw the UK over.

And I say that as a Tory voter (this time round).

David Cameron decides to launch a referendum with no fucking back up plan whatsoever then throws his toys out of the pram and leaves others to clear up his mess.

Now Theresa calls a general election because she has the arrogance to assume she'll win which will make her life easier.

Lets hope we don't end with some awful hotch potch of a three-way coalition. God help us is all I can say.

peregrina
Don't forget that a significant number of Conservatives voted Remain, yet she has described Remain voters as saboteurs
she did no such thing - it was the front page of a red-top paper (which I will not mention) implied that they were quoting her exact words.
But of course social media et al were all over it and twisted the false facts in the like of the so-called 'independent' paper (now that is a left-wing leaning 'paper')

It has to be overwhelmingly positive that the younger demographic are adding themselves to the electoral role. Theirs is the generation of social media and sharing conversation amongst peers par excellence, and they are finding themselves affected by politics, for example the high cost of self-funding higher education, and the prospect of Brexit when many of them would have assumed a freely mobile future within the EU and were shocked by the outcome of the June referendum as we all were.
I would hate to think that the election outcome was a foregone conclusion. IT all seems a rather hasty and rushed affair; DH suspects MAchievellian intentions on the part of the PM, frankly it seems illtimed and can only hope and pray that the highest good will prevail.

she did no such thing

Nice to have you with us, Mr May