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AIBU?

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To not want to see or speak to her again?

297 replies

froofroomcgoo · 22/04/2017 20:43

Been wanting to write this for a while but didn't have the guts. This could be loooong.

My BF is one of DH's BF. They met at uni, I met her about 3 months after he did. I was her maid of honor, she mine. DH was an usher at her wedding, we see each other most weeks. Or did.

I got pregnant shortly after getting married. She requires an operation before she can have children (well, it's advised the operation is before pregnancy as pregnancy could make her condition worse) she doesn't want the operation so has put it off until recently when she has had to organise it. She isn't sure she wants kids at all, wants to foster ASD children.

She was the first person we told I was pregnant. She was excited and happy for us, continued to see her regularly. Then baby came. I had mild postnatal depression, I was struggling with the physical changes to my body, I had a birth injury causing on going issues and my sex life was non-existent which along with my mood was causing issues in my relationship. I confided in her. DS was a velcro baby, bottle refuser and terrible, terrible sleeper. I was miserable, sleep deprived and depressed.

I feel that as a good friend she should have suggested nights in round mine, shopping trips or lunch out, nights round her with DS coming with me, walks in the park etc (which I did suggest to her). I feel she should have hugged me, listened to me, told me to buck up. I did ask about her life and the things important to her etc, it wasn't one sided.

Instead, she went out drinking and dancing with DH, invited him to child-unfriendly things, invited him to lunch, the park, shopping, coffee with DS (under the guise of giving me a break).

We used to all do a hobby together, which I can't do due to my birth injury. She'd invite DH to do that, knowing how upset it made me, she'd invite him to gigs, trips away.

DH would always ask me before saying yes or no, and would sometimes say no anyway as he knew I was struggling, but I felt bad asking him not to go (I know now I should have said when I wasn't happy.

She'd also do things such as when we were round hers, put music on and give DH drinks and start dancing, then say "I really want to go out dancing but I bet froo won't let you" within earshot of me.

It all came to a head when DS was about 8 months when DH and her were going away for an event. DH informed me he'd book a twin room (we're pretty broke) or take an airbed in a cheapo hotel. I found out the night before that he's booked a naice hotel with 4 poster bed (though it was cheap!) we had a massive row and they didn't go.

We discussed it afterwards and DH did admit that he and DF had been getting close, he's been confiding in her and enjoyed spending time with her and could see it wouldn't take much for him to start having inappropriate feelings for her. He admitted his behaviour had been out of order and we discussed the issues in our relationship and are working on those.

DH maintains that DF didn't know about the hotel and I shouldn't blame her. I pointed out all the issues above and told him I felt she had been a poor friend to me, and had been undermining our relationship by listening to me about how I felt and things that were going wrong and then using them to get close to DH. DH admitted that he hadn't seen it that way but could see my point and that that meant she wasn't a good friend to him either.

Unfortunately she is part of a wider close friendship group, making it very hard to cut her off completely. I've seen her maybe 6 times since this incident. I'm polite but cool. The rest of group don't know about any of this. DH is still maintaining a friendship with her, though made the decision himself not to see her alone at all, or without me where possible.

He feels over time I should forgive her and move on. I don't want to. There is history of her doing similar things and this is just the final straw. I don't want her in my life. It's been about 9 months now.

DH and I have been working through things and things have been pretty good. I haven't fully decided if I can get over what he did, I do believe it to be an emotional affair and I'm not sure I can forgive him, but I'm trying.

AIBU to never want too see her again? And certainly not consider her a friend?

I think we're doing well and then I find that last night, when out with work and drunk, he text her. He clearly wanted to see her (I don't know what he text, just her response of "I'm not out tonight" when it flashed up on his phone screen.) and know I'm thinking does he still have feelings for her?

I hate this!

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froofroomcgoo · 22/04/2017 21:08

Yep, you are saying exactly what I know but don't want to accept!

A talk with DH and marriage counselling is needed I think.

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VladmirsPoutine · 22/04/2017 21:09

Whilst I agree that it's really your H you should have issue with - which you clearly do. I think you'd be perfectly within the realms of reasonability to never see that woman again. Her behaviour has been horrid and you'd do well to never engage with her again.
Have you asked your H about the text? I'm not sure how you're going to go about rebuilding trust if everytime you think you've made progress in your relationship he resorts back to this.

Goodythreeshoes · 22/04/2017 21:09

Your DH has really got to up his game if your relationship has any hope of surviving. A four poster bed - how dare he! I'm furious on your behalf.
I agree with previous posters, you both need to go NC with BF. Even if it means distancing yourselves from the rest of the group temporarily.
Good luck.

Mummyoflittledragon · 22/04/2017 21:10

He just wants to pretend it didn't happen. I understand why you're struggling to see if you can get over this. You should be his first priority, his one and only. I think you also need to do some soul searching. Unless and until you no longer regularly see her, she's going to be a constant reminder of this emotional affair. Is seeing her at gatherings truly something you can live with?

roundaboutthetown · 22/04/2017 21:11

froofroo - what's happened to her dh in all this?! Self-evidently she is not your friend, she is your competitor. She's a bitch and your dh is a wanker....

Justmadeperfectflapjacks · 22/04/2017 21:12

Skip the therapy and go straight to a divorce solicitor. . .

Meowstro · 22/04/2017 21:12

He feels over time I should forgive her
Well I'm sure you getting over everything would be good for him and his conscience but sadly it's damaged your trust. I would say maybe your anger has been misdirected on the most part if you can work on things with your husband. It sounds as though your disappointed and have different expectations of a friend. He doesn't get to have a say in how you feel though. Not one bit.

I'm basing this on my own expectations of friends and I would be hugely disappointed, maybe even suspect she had some part in it too. She was your friend and although she has failed to show the understanding to you and your problems and to invite your husband out knowing you couldn't go, it is your husband that you are married to. Your husband has booked this hotel and he has also gone along with these things as if he were a single person. Keeping your distance and keeping contact with her to a bare minimum in your friendship group would be fair.

As for your husband, that decision is yours but I echo MsJudgemental your focus should definitely be you and your baby.

ijustwannadance · 22/04/2017 21:12

She is most definitely not your friend.

Where is her DH in all this. Why is she not out dancing or trips away with him?

Obsidian77 · 22/04/2017 21:13

She was your maid of honour, you confided in her about your problems and instead of supporting you she seems to be trying her utmost to get your DH to socialise with her. I agree that most of the responsibilty lies with your DH but her behaviour has been at best underhand and at worst she's trying to smash and grab him.
I would have fucking patioed her Grin
I have also had a birth injury which has affected my mobility and means I can't take part in activities I used to love. And you know how my friends have been? Supportive, kind, encouraging. They would never expect my DH to go off doing stuff with them that I couldn't manage.
I am really angry on your behalf with this sneak of a "friend". I'm not usually vindictive but I would NC her completely, even if this meant ignoring her in front of mutual friends.

MrsChopper · 22/04/2017 21:14

It would be interesting to see what kind of excuse he has for the text.

AddToBasket · 22/04/2017 21:14

If this friendship group is important to you then I can totally understand that you don't want to blow it up. But you need support from friends - can you look outside the group and find someone to talk to?

I think your DH does have feelings for this girl. However, this isn't the end of the world but you both need to address it. It really isn't up to her, you and DH both need to take control of the situation and your relationship.

No meeting up without you. No overnight away. Lots of working on the romance between you. All crushes fade. He needs to acknowledge how this has made you feel and make it up to you.

Trb17 · 22/04/2017 21:14

DF is not your friend - drop her.

Your DH has feelings for her and was going to act on them (even if he says he wasn't the 4 poster bed says otherwise) - if it were me I'd drop him too as I could t forgive that.

Either way YANBU - they are out of order.

froofroomcgoo · 22/04/2017 21:15

roundabout I'm not sure. He is a mutual friend but since this I've kept my distance from him too. I don't know how much he does or doesn't know. I'm not going to say anything.

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JigglyTuff · 22/04/2017 21:19

She's behaved appallingly but your husband's behaviour is far, far worse. Why aren't you angry with him?

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ArtemisiaGentilleschi · 22/04/2017 21:21

He has both of you where he wants you. I bet her side of the story is very different to his.
He is very good at this though isn't he? What a twat. I'd leave them both to it.

froofroomcgoo · 22/04/2017 21:21

jigglytuff I am.

mrschopper he doesn't have one. I've already asked.

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228agreenend · 22/04/2017 21:22

maybe you did expect a little too much support from her, but she was so wrong in what she did. Your husband got well and truely sucked in.

You are right in considering her not a friend anymore.

EmeraldIsle100 · 22/04/2017 21:23

I would tell him tonight that you have booked an appointment to see a solicitor on Monday to seek advice on where you and your child would stand financially in the event of you suing for divorce on the grounds of your husband's infidelity.

Then tell your husband not to insult your intelligence by expecting you to believe he booked a four poster bed for him and his 'friend' by accident.

Then ring his friend's husband and tell him that your husband booked a double bed in a hotel room for his wife and him.

You have been through a tough time with the baby and you should be getting support from him. You deserve so much better.

Maybe you can work it out but you need to change tack and scare seven shades of shit out of him first.

Smiler2013 · 22/04/2017 21:23

I would not consider her a friend, your husband is just as bad.

ENormaSnob · 22/04/2017 21:24

She's no friend of yours. Sly cow.

And your husband is a faithless, untrustworthy slimy fuck.

What do you think would have happened if they'd have gone on the four poster night away?

MrsChopper · 22/04/2017 21:25

That in itself speaks volumes froo

So sorry you are going through this, especially since you were already vulnerable Flowers

ImperialBlether · 22/04/2017 21:26

You would have to ask for a four poster - there's no way you'd be allocated one if you asked for a twin room. And why was he thinking he'd share a room with her anyway?

How did you find out about the room?

mrsBeverleygoldberg · 22/04/2017 21:27

He booked a room with a four poster bed for the two of them?!!!
Am I missing the point?
HE booked a double room with a four poster bed and you're cross with her?

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