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AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not want to see or speak to her again?

297 replies

froofroomcgoo · 22/04/2017 20:43

Been wanting to write this for a while but didn't have the guts. This could be loooong.

My BF is one of DH's BF. They met at uni, I met her about 3 months after he did. I was her maid of honor, she mine. DH was an usher at her wedding, we see each other most weeks. Or did.

I got pregnant shortly after getting married. She requires an operation before she can have children (well, it's advised the operation is before pregnancy as pregnancy could make her condition worse) she doesn't want the operation so has put it off until recently when she has had to organise it. She isn't sure she wants kids at all, wants to foster ASD children.

She was the first person we told I was pregnant. She was excited and happy for us, continued to see her regularly. Then baby came. I had mild postnatal depression, I was struggling with the physical changes to my body, I had a birth injury causing on going issues and my sex life was non-existent which along with my mood was causing issues in my relationship. I confided in her. DS was a velcro baby, bottle refuser and terrible, terrible sleeper. I was miserable, sleep deprived and depressed.

I feel that as a good friend she should have suggested nights in round mine, shopping trips or lunch out, nights round her with DS coming with me, walks in the park etc (which I did suggest to her). I feel she should have hugged me, listened to me, told me to buck up. I did ask about her life and the things important to her etc, it wasn't one sided.

Instead, she went out drinking and dancing with DH, invited him to child-unfriendly things, invited him to lunch, the park, shopping, coffee with DS (under the guise of giving me a break).

We used to all do a hobby together, which I can't do due to my birth injury. She'd invite DH to do that, knowing how upset it made me, she'd invite him to gigs, trips away.

DH would always ask me before saying yes or no, and would sometimes say no anyway as he knew I was struggling, but I felt bad asking him not to go (I know now I should have said when I wasn't happy.

She'd also do things such as when we were round hers, put music on and give DH drinks and start dancing, then say "I really want to go out dancing but I bet froo won't let you" within earshot of me.

It all came to a head when DS was about 8 months when DH and her were going away for an event. DH informed me he'd book a twin room (we're pretty broke) or take an airbed in a cheapo hotel. I found out the night before that he's booked a naice hotel with 4 poster bed (though it was cheap!) we had a massive row and they didn't go.

We discussed it afterwards and DH did admit that he and DF had been getting close, he's been confiding in her and enjoyed spending time with her and could see it wouldn't take much for him to start having inappropriate feelings for her. He admitted his behaviour had been out of order and we discussed the issues in our relationship and are working on those.

DH maintains that DF didn't know about the hotel and I shouldn't blame her. I pointed out all the issues above and told him I felt she had been a poor friend to me, and had been undermining our relationship by listening to me about how I felt and things that were going wrong and then using them to get close to DH. DH admitted that he hadn't seen it that way but could see my point and that that meant she wasn't a good friend to him either.

Unfortunately she is part of a wider close friendship group, making it very hard to cut her off completely. I've seen her maybe 6 times since this incident. I'm polite but cool. The rest of group don't know about any of this. DH is still maintaining a friendship with her, though made the decision himself not to see her alone at all, or without me where possible.

He feels over time I should forgive her and move on. I don't want to. There is history of her doing similar things and this is just the final straw. I don't want her in my life. It's been about 9 months now.

DH and I have been working through things and things have been pretty good. I haven't fully decided if I can get over what he did, I do believe it to be an emotional affair and I'm not sure I can forgive him, but I'm trying.

AIBU to never want too see her again? And certainly not consider her a friend?

I think we're doing well and then I find that last night, when out with work and drunk, he text her. He clearly wanted to see her (I don't know what he text, just her response of "I'm not out tonight" when it flashed up on his phone screen.) and know I'm thinking does he still have feelings for her?

I hate this!

OP posts:
bunnylove99 · 23/04/2017 20:42

user1489179512 you are being a crass ass. So what if OP doesn't come back. Do you not think she has enough to contend with aside from heartless comments from twats like you?
OP I hope you get things sorted out speedily. You sound strong and capable and will get though all this to a happier place. Flowers

Tulipsaregold · 23/04/2017 20:57

every conversation seemed to be dominated by the baby and how hard her life was. I'm afraid that I didn't want to hear it. She knew my situation and it was like she was rubbing it in

So its rubbing it in telling you how awful it was? Surely rubbing it in would be telling you how wonderful it was???

And then ....

Eventually she blew up and accused us of having an affair, of me not supporting her and he wasn't supporting her and she had been diagnosed with PND, had struggled with feeding etc and I should have left her husband alone. The thing is, I didn't know any of that and had no idea how awful,things were for her. He never told me

But.....she told you....didn't she? She told you how awful it was - according to your post...so why does he have to tell you as well.

Sorry zee - sounds like a crock of shite to me. You have totally contradicted yourself there.

Starlighter · 23/04/2017 20:59

Good luck OP. Hope the talk is going ok. Make sure he gives you full disclosure, you need to see all recent correspondence between them.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 23/04/2017 21:37

OP it's a marathon not a sprint . I am sure this thread has been pretty painful to read , and we know when we post here we get the very blunt truth

Yanbu to hate her - and even if she ends up with your DP - all you ever need is to be barely civil . It's PK to be angry with her - really !

Get your ducks lined up - I do think that whilst an affair can be forgiven the way he has minimized this is shameful

And whilst you might be at peace the fact he texted her gives you a free card to withdraw and take some time out

You know you dont have to make a grand announcement - you have very right to do whatever you like

Sending Flowers it won't always be this shitty

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 23/04/2017 21:40

I think Zee Makes a fair point

The major difference is she wasn't close friends with the woman ! She owed her not loyalty / unlike extrovert hobby cunt whore Grin

zeezeek · 23/04/2017 21:48

A crock of shit? Oh, ok then. I guess you know better than me Tulip. I was just condensing a long story. But hey ho.

Janeinthemiddle · 23/04/2017 21:57

YANBU to not want to see her and be her friend ever. Of course you are not! Maybe it's worth confronting her and listen to what she has to say for herself? May not come to any fruition but perhaps it's worth giving her the benefit of a doubt or let her come clean as she WAS your friend after all?

Inertia · 23/04/2017 22:03

Both you and your husband should distance yourself from this woman, so that there is no text/phone/email contact between her and either of you (apart from hobby-related group emails).

He obviously wants to stay in contact. He needs you to still be friends with her, because you're the cover .

Tulipsaregold · 23/04/2017 22:08

hey ho Confused, condensing but contradicting yourself you said you had no idea about the woman's pain and problems and yet said she was also crassly moaning to you about them. Which was it. You either did know or you didn't know. She told you or she didn't.

zeezeek · 23/04/2017 22:14

I could go into detail about the conversations we had, but frankly, I can't be bothered, it would derail this thread and was a long time ago and irrelevant to my life.

I've apologised to the OP and, as far as I'm concerned, that's that.

TalkingofMichaelAngel0 · 23/04/2017 22:17

Tulip yabu. finding it is tough with a newborn is not the same as Pnd. Zeezeek said the wife dominted conversation with how tough having a Baby is. Then she said she had no idea about the pnd. Thats nit contridicting herself at all.

HeteronormativeHaybales · 23/04/2017 22:24

Tulips, what's with the vindictive picking on zeezeek? Confused
I am guessing the friend in her social-occasion conversations came across as 'just' moaning.

SarcasmMode · 23/04/2017 22:55

Good luck with your talk OP.AngryFlowers

Giraffey1 · 23/04/2017 23:03

I can also see that he would find her company easier than mine, more fun and want to spend more time with her.

What? You are his partner and his friend and the mother of his child? Don't belittle yourself in this way! You are worth more than this!

MyKingdomForBrie · 23/04/2017 23:04

I would cut her out of my life without a second thought. She wanted your husband. They would have shagged in that bed.

The fact that he was a scum bag doesn't make her less scummy.

buckeejit · 23/04/2017 23:25

Hope you've had the talk & are coping ok OP. Try to get some rest tonight

Wedrine4me · 23/04/2017 23:26

Kate i put those down as those are the bits advice i followed. There were plenty of calls for LTB as well, which clearly i haven't followed as at the time i wanted to give him a chance.

Well he's had his chance and he's screwed it up and let you down. I'm glad you are seriously considering leaving him. And yes you should have nothing to do with her too, whether or not she was the main instigator. She should have had your back and put him firmly in his place. She let you down too but not as badly as him

sykadelic · 23/04/2017 23:42

No, YANBU. Ignoring the DH side of things (obviously you know what you're doing there), she was a friend you confided in when you were feeling very down.

I think it all comes down to this part of your OP: I had mild postnatal depression, I was struggling with the physical changes to my body, I had a birth injury causing on going issues and my sex life was non-existent which along with my mood was causing issues in my relationship. I confided in her. DS was a velcro baby, bottle refuser and terrible, terrible sleeper. I was miserable, sleep deprived and depressed.

You confided in her, and she used that against you. She hit you while you were down. WHAT she did (involving your DH etc etc) is irrelevant. She could have told a bunch of people, been laughing behind your back (probably how you feel) but the result is the same. You trusted her with some of your deepest, darkest, most personal thoughts and she betrayed you. She is most definitely not worth your time.

At the end of the day, she's a shitty friend. You've been burned. You CAN move on from it in terms of seeing her and speaking to her if you have to, but you're well within your rights not to want to spend time with her unless you have to. But don't let her ruin your enjoyment of your activity because then she wins again. Rise above it. She didn't break you.

Mummyoflittledragon · 24/04/2017 08:07

How did it go froo?

froofroomcgoo · 24/04/2017 08:28

Had a long talk last night and it went well. I'm currently at work but will write a longer response later but from the talk last night I am as certain as I can be that it was an emotional affair and not a physical one. I now need to decide what to do with that information and how I feel about it.

OP posts:
LedaP · 24/04/2017 08:55

Op i want this to end with you being happy. Whatever that means, even if there is hurt along the way.

I know you will update later but look at whats happened.

She was His best friend
Then your best friend
Then only acted as his friend
Both proclaimed they were just friends
He books a hotel with a 4 poster bed
He admits some feelings based on her being more fun
He wont cut contact
Now you are sure its an EA not physical

Can you see how this is just progressing?

And even if, you are right and it didnt become physical.....its only because you found the booking. If it is an EA, she did know he booked the a double room or at least knew what the plan was. So he is probably lying again. To protect her.

Please be prepared for more to come out.

HarryPottersMagicWand · 24/04/2017 10:19

To answer your OP, as you clearly know what you are doing with your H, YANBU, cut her out of your lives and only see her within the group and even then, just a distant politeness from you both. She deserves nothing more. Your H really has to be on board as well. I think she knew exactly what she was doing, and as you are the one who knows her, I think you have hinted that she is that type of person.

Chamonix1 · 24/04/2017 10:22

Your DH is the issue here. Well, your friend has been very inconsiderate indeed but your DH's behaviour isn't something I could easily forgive. You've sat back whilst he's gone and partied etc with your friend, whilst you've been at home looking after his baby and he's admitted he could see himself developing feelings that would be considered inappropriate and decided to not see her alone to avoid this then messages her the moment he's tipsy as he wants to see her.
I'm sorry but I'm waving a very large red flag on your behalf OP. It's not fair and ooozes a potential (imo likely and only not happened because you've announced your upset) affair.

Chamonix1 · 24/04/2017 10:23

He booked a 4 poster bed in a swanky hotel. Was he planning on sleeping on the floor then? In the bath?!
Christ.

babyinarms · 24/04/2017 10:24

Glad ye spoke. Have a good day at work. Hopefully ye can work through this and hopefully he realises how hurtful he's been Flowers

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