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To think that some left-wing supporters are just so NASTY

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cathf · 22/04/2017 14:22

This is based on posts I have read on here and a couple of very vocal left-wing friends I have on facebook.
I have truly never read a Conservative supporter personally attacking Labour in the same way.
I find it astonishing and if I am honest, a bit childish.
Recent examples include a website pulling Teresa May's living room apart and costing out every single thing in it, to a chorus of comments along the lines of how can she sleep at night when children are hungry and she has a £25 candle.
Every time the subject is raised on here, there is a long thread of hysterical comments about how nasty the Tories are. Yes, Tory supporters state their case and answer back, but they seem to be able to do it in a more restrained, mature manner than outraged Labour screamers.
There seems to be a lot of personal bile aimed at Teresa May, which I am at a loss to understand - just what has she done that is so terrible?
She is pushing through Brexit, but that was what the country voted for. Is she supposed to go against the country's wishes?
All of Labour's policies look very lovely, but none have any substance at all. My friend recently stated on Facebook she was supporting Jeremy Corbyn because he wanted peace not war. And? How is he going to implement that then? It reminds me of the 1980s T-shirts stating War is Stupid. Lots of nice words, but to implementation strategies.
It amazes me that supposedly intelligent people seem to be so brainwashed by this nonsense and think that flinging mud is an appopriate way to behave.
Is it just me?

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BillSykesDog · 22/04/2017 19:03

There's been quite a lot of writing over left wing efforts to stop freedom of speech over the last 20 years and this has been very much part of it. There has been a concerted effort to move the public discourse further and further to the left and thus move the centre of politics further to the left.

Certainly part of this has been an effort to make people too intimidated to voice support for right wing policies or parties publicly creating an impression that the left wing has greater support than it does and the right less in the hope that this would encourage people to 'follow the crowd'.

It's stopped working. Oh well.

CopperRose · 22/04/2017 19:04

copper because she was going on about Eastern European immigrants.

She really wasn't btw.

She mentioned Eastern European immigrants once - in a 5 minute conversation.
Once.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=CTr8IVWBuPE

user1491678180 · 22/04/2017 19:05

Couldn't agree more with the OP. Most far left people I know are total asswipes. They are, by a country mile as bad as the far right (EDL etc.) They don't see it either. I actually KNOW someone who took a photo (on his phone,) of someone with a UKIP flag up (during the run-up to the last election in 2015,) and put it on twitter, with 'hashtag c-nt' and 'why would you advertise the fact that you are a massive c-nt?' and then he put the family's ADDRESS on twitter.

That's the tip of the iceberg. I have a dozen or more tales I could tell, just from this past couple of years of appalling, nasty, abusive behaviour from lefties towards more right of centre people.

Another leftie I know put a pic of a sword poking the 'refugees' back into the sea and a big hand pushing them away, with the poor wee family sobbing. A right of centre facebook follower of theirs said 'if someone was genuinely desperate, they would stay in the first place of refuge they arrived at,' and he made a comment implying that many are not genuine refugees, and then he said the vast majority of the people trying to get in are single, young males.

This person then screenshotted the post and put it on twitter with the man's name, saying what a horrid, vitriolic bastard he was. Just for having an opinion that was different to hers!

As the OP said; most (very) left wing people are far nastier towards the right than the right are towards them, and I have noticed this for a long time now. The thing is, they claim to be so tolerant and kind and wonderful; yet are so pious and talk to people like they're shit if they don't agree with their far left views. I have seen people being slaughtered for saying the 'wrong' terminology when describing someone, and mocked and ridiculed for saying they think Theresa May or Nigel Farage are OK. Coz God forbid you don't agree with what THEY think.

And when you DARE suggest that some people keep having kids to accrue more benefits and that some people are better off on benefits than some people are working, you get scorn poured all over you, and get called the devil himself. And of course every BREXIT voter is a thick uneducated chav.

The worst place for annoying sanctimonious lefties is twitter. It's a joke! You can't say shit on there, and you get obliterated if you admit you support Brexit and like Theresa May.

The far left have come across as the nastiest of the nasty this past few years, and they are getting worse. Not ALL left wing are nasty bastards, but it's true that they are more likely to be nasty towards a right leaning person, than the right leaning person is to be nasty to them.

Like someone said earlier, I have always voted Labour, but feel very detached from the left now, and strongly believe I will vote Tory this time. Some of what they have done is not great (bedroom tax, pulling folk off disability benefits, benefit cap, stopping tax credits/child benefit at two children, tripling uni fees...,) But I think there was a good reason for everything they did; they were just too harsh, and went about things the wrong way.

So as I said, it's looking more and more like I will be voting for Conservative. There's no way in HELL I will vote Labour with Corbyn as leader. He is a joke, and the whole party is falling apart.

And to a poster above, it's not all about 'here' and FB and twitter - it's everywhere; the far left are just awful.

CopperRose · 22/04/2017 19:05

But don't let fake recollections get in the way of having an unfair pop at someone...

BrexshitMeansBrexshit · 22/04/2017 19:06

I'm sure there are some perfectly nice Tory voters - genuinely - but can't get my head around people knowingly voting for a party that is decimating the NHS, under-funding schools and social care etc. We are one of the richest nations in the world, so it seems inexplicable that we have people using food banks. Trickle down economics hasn't worked; instead we have the super-wealthy and a growing gig economy. When people are deciding where to put their cross on the ballot paper, do they think about these things? Maybe they think about them but dont care, or maybe they think about them, empathise, but think there are more important things to vote for, which they believe the Tories will deliver. I'd love to know what's more important than the health and welfare of a country's own citizens.

CopperRose · 22/04/2017 19:06

Sorry, xposted.
My last post was meant to be part of my first one Blush

Abraiid2 · 22/04/2017 19:09

Thing is, right-wingers have the last laugh because although social media is left-wing oriented, left-wingers in the last few years tend not to win elections.

Which always amazes them. How can it be that their blend of condescension and sanctimony doesn't persuade people? Confused

LouKout · 22/04/2017 19:12

Wonder why people dont like right wingers.

This thread has some great examples of their smug hypocrisy

LouKout · 22/04/2017 19:13

A right of centre facebook follower of theirs said 'if someone was genuinely desperate, they would stay in the first place of refuge they arrived at,' and he made a comment implying that many are not genuine refugees, and then he said the vast majority of the people trying to get in are single, young males.

And that is a pretty offensive opinion.

thebakerwithboobs · 22/04/2017 19:13

OP, I took (probably am still taking....) a pasting on a different thread about politics because of the reasons I'll vote Tory and I suppose on that particular thread the majority of the nastiness, if you want to call it that, did come from the left leaning posters but surely passion, on both sides, is preferable to apathy? There's a pretty famous visual which shows that in the 2010 election the number of people who didn't vote at all was much higher than the number of people who voted for any particular party so they could have made all the difference. I admit I will vote Conservative this time around but would quite genuinely be happier with a Labour government and a, say, 90% turn out at the ballot box than a conservative one with the turnout of 66% that we saw in 2015. There is no real need for anyone to be nasty to anyone else but at the same time politics encompasses so many enormously important issues that I think sometimes we need to look past the nastiness and get through to the reasoning behind the opposing view.

Abraiid2 · 22/04/2017 19:15

a comment implying that many are not genuine refugees, and then he said the vast majority of the people trying to get in are single, young males.

The second part is undoubtedly true.

halobean · 22/04/2017 19:16

All extremists are twats.

LouKout · 22/04/2017 19:16

So what. Theyre fleeing war fgs.

If that makes me equivalent to the EdL for saying that then so be it Hmm

Caprianna · 22/04/2017 19:19

Noone is as nasty as the very right wing press - the daily hell, express, sun. This is who informs many of the opinions held by the right wingers.

ILikeBeansWithKetchup · 22/04/2017 19:22

I am actually getting fed up of the word leftie being used with sneering venom all over this thread.

It's not pleasant.

QED

user1491678180 · 22/04/2017 19:26

Re what 'LouKout' is spouting 'I rest my case........ Wink

What the man on FB said is NOT offensive, and is true in some cases. Just because you think it's offensive does not mean it is.

This is what he said...

A right of centre facebook follower of theirs said 'if someone was genuinely desperate, they would stay in the first place of refuge they arrived at,' and he made a comment implying that many are not genuine refugees, and then he said the vast majority of the people trying to get in are single, young males.

WTF is so offensive about that? FFS! Can you not stand it that someone has a different view to you?!

Lefties don't like to admit they are wrong though, and have meltdowns when someone DARES to disagree with them. Wink

LouKout · 22/04/2017 19:28

I can stabd it when people have a different view.

It does get on my tits when people are massively generalising bigots though, and sneering at people fleeing war.

HtH.

user1491678180 · 22/04/2017 19:28

Now people are getting all huffy and precious about being called lefties and are accusing people of spouting venom and sneering.

Fuck me, pot kettle black! Shock

LouKout · 22/04/2017 19:29

You have a strange idea of a meltdown though.

LouKout · 22/04/2017 19:29

I think its clear who is the nasty party here.

Salubrious · 22/04/2017 19:30

That's quite the generalisation - some right wing supporters are much the same!

user1491678180 · 22/04/2017 19:32

Hogwash Loukout, the vast majority of people trying to get into the UK via Calais (claiming to be refugees,) were young single males with no families, grandparents, children, wives, NOTHING. Just young single males. 1000s of them. Don't deny it. And quit calling people names (like bigot,) because they don't agree with you. FFS!

user1491678180 · 22/04/2017 19:32

The OP's point has been prove by LouKout.

Nuff said.

LouKout · 22/04/2017 19:33

So what if they were?

Its a pretty arduous journey.

Sorry to stand in the way of your unfettered bigotry leanings though.

CopperRose · 22/04/2017 19:33

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To think that some left-wing supporters are just so NASTY
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