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Corbyn is lovely, why the negativity?

896 replies

Wettingthetopbunkbed · 18/04/2017 12:28

Really, why?
Just because he's a bit different in his presentation. He in principled and compassionate, I for one wish he would become the PM.

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NoLotteryWinYet · 18/04/2017 13:27

i'm not mindlessly repeating it - I don't like Corbyn's policies - can we just fix the NHS rather than expanding the public sector to include education? Can we leave the bloody railways alone and fix the NHS and oh, perhaps benefits? His policies are so wide-ranging it'd be impossible to do that much change so quickly.

There is NO evidence he's a good leader - the PLP is a mess, he's had mass resignations.

mummymeister · 18/04/2017 13:27

I worked with him when I was working in London. I can only think that those of you who think he isn't too bad haven't.

he is a misogynist.
he is an anti-Semitic apologist who has failed to take the issue seriously and deal with it.
he isn't a man of principles. if he was he would never have stood as labour leader. the number of times he has voted against his own party is legendary and if he hadn't have been looked upon as the "mad uncle - nutty but not dangerous" by so many of his party he would have been thrown out years ago.
he doesn't listen or take advice - ever. its his way or the highway on everything. no ability to negotiate or conciliate.
he is too old to do the job and cant work a full week now.
he is a puppet who has the hand of momentum up his arse. they got him into power, they are keeping him there and they are not a decent bunch of political activists.

Sorry, but he isn't some lovely cuddly man of principles. watch Homeland latest series. that's who he reminds me of the madam president elect.

BonnieF · 18/04/2017 13:27

Corbyn may be a decent guy but he simply isn't a credible candidate to be leader of a G7 country.

I'm a life-long Labour voter, but I won't vote for Corbyn to be PM. This saddens me greatly.

alreadytaken · 18/04/2017 13:28

Corbyn is a failure as a party leader and as a leader of opposition to the Tories. That is why we have a snap election, before his supporters jump ship and the country finally wakes up to the disasters caused by this incompetent government and gets ready to vote for anyone other than the Tories.

HoldBackTheRain · 18/04/2017 13:29

I agree OP. I will be voting for Corbyn because of the pledges the Labour party have put together. I wonder how many people slating him don't have to worry about austerity or benefit cuts? Although we all need the NHS.

www.labour.org.uk/index.php/10-pledges

JanetBrown2015 · 18/04/2017 13:29

He's a good man. I am a Tory supporter and I think May is wonderful but I still have time for Corbyn. Both he and May are good people.

QueenOlivine · 18/04/2017 13:29

Just because he's a bit different in his presentation.

It's so not that – I don't care what any politician wears or how they speak. What fucks me off about Corbyn is his total failure to be the voice of opposition to an evil, poor-hating, equality-hating government that should be easy to criticise and haul over the coals.

This is either because he doesn't care and can't be arsed as his MO is simply to be obstinate, or he's useless at communication and rhetoric, or both.

It's not just media representation - I can watch raw footage of PMQs and see him fucking up and totally missing every opportunity.

FGS I'm shy, awkward and shit at public speaking and even I want to march into the HoC, shove him out of the way and give Theresa May a roasting! Someone needs to be standing up and putting the tories on the spot, pointing out exactly what they are doing, and saying it's not good enough. Yet he just mimbles around, occasionally makes s weak protest then goes back to soaking up adulation from his far left supporters.

And I don't think he's nice - the evidence suggests he's supremely arrogant, vain, stubborn and obstreperous, hypocritical and sexist.

bananafish · 18/04/2017 13:30

Personally, I think it's because he's a poor leader with no idea how to navigate politics in the modern sense. He is ineffective, ineffectual and doesn't have the sense to learn from his mistakes.

His pitiful insistence on remaining as Labour leader has meant that there is no credible opposition to this government and little hope of building anything over the next 5 - 10 years.

He appears perfectly pleasant and, yes, clearly principled. And of absolutely no use to this country.

ShatnersWig · 18/04/2017 13:31

Gark Why is it Corbyn supporters blame the media for inaccurate reporting as to why he lacks support when, as I and others have already stated above, you don't need the media to see he is a hopeless leader simply by watching him at PMQs?

CoolCarrie · 18/04/2017 13:31

Queen I totally agree!

NoLotteryWinYet · 18/04/2017 13:33

yes i don't think he's principled - if i was him and i was faced with handing the tories who are crippling the poor another 100 seats, i'd have fallen on my sword and slunk off back to make jam in my allotment. Whatever he believes about being elected by the party members, he's letting down the people he claims to care most about because he is the best news the tories have had in YEARS.

Alyosha · 18/04/2017 13:33

Is he lovely? A man who pals around with terrorists, calls an avowed anti-semite a great bloke & invites him for tea in the HoC and calls Hamas his "friends" - nice?

A man who takes money from dictatorships to be a talking head on authoritarian run tv channels - principled?

Pull the other one...

NoLotteryWinYet · 18/04/2017 13:35

my Corbyn supporting friends are saying we should stop saying JC is unelectable - i think this is indeed a euphemism.

We should instead say, I'm not voting labour for the first time ever because I believe JC is a dangerous lunatic who would make an enormous mess of being in power if he got into power. Look what he's done to the labour party!

He's unelectable, but I really mean also that I don't think he ought to be elected either.

coconuttella · 18/04/2017 13:35

My great aunt is "lovely"... wouldn't want her as PM though.

Foureyesarebetterthantwo · 18/04/2017 13:36

NoLottery that's what I don't get, how can he be principled when his main aim should be to get into power to stop the Tories and to enact Labour policies? That has to be their main aim, doesn't it (have started to wonder)? So, having clearly failed to offer this or provide the PLP with leadership, he should be resigning in a principled way when in fact he's clinging on by his fingertips to power.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 18/04/2017 13:38

Donald Trump is now President of the US because he bypassed the mainstream media altogether and used social media to get to his target voters. UKIP has done similar. So how is it that Labour has been holed beneath the water by the mainstream media? Why aren't they being nimble enough to recognise that we live in changed times?

As for Corbyn being a lovely man - if you were interviewing for a supervisory role in a small business, would you look for the candidate you liked the most? Or would you look for a really good, deep understanding of the business, well-honed professional and leadership skills and a strong personality with excellent communication skills?

If the latter, why would you settle for so much less in the elected leader of one of the largest economies in the world, with access to our nuclear codes?

How could Corbyn negotiate with Trump or Putin? The very idea is laughable.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 13:38

He's actually quite difficult to listen to as well -

expatinscotland · 18/04/2017 13:39

He's a limp biscuit.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 13:39

Good politicians should be able to capture their audience, he just kind of mumbles

NoLotteryWinYet · 18/04/2017 13:41

i agree four if he really cared about improving people's lives he'd have gone when faced with overwhelming evidence he's not going to be heading up the next government, and that is why I especially hate him, he's a fraud who is enjoying his moment in the sun on the backs of the people he's letting down.

NoLotteryWinYet · 18/04/2017 13:42

you have to be hubristic as a leader of the opposition not to notice that the tory leader is so confident of weighing in her vote that she calls a snap election years before she needs it. It speaks volumes about the tories' confidence in the strength of JC's opposition.

NoYouDontKnowItAll · 18/04/2017 13:43

In 2015 I voted for him because I agree with him on getting rid of the monarchy and trident and he was the only candidate who voted against tory welfare cuts. Last year I didn't vote for him because of Momentum and how they, along with the right wing msm, have ruined Labour

I would like to see Chuka or Dan Jarvis as Labour leader but they've both ruled themselves out

bookworm14 · 18/04/2017 13:44

Corbyn is not lovely; he is both nasty and ineffectual, and he and his supporters are about to destroy the Labour Party as an electoral force.

I am a Labour Party member but am only staying because I like and personally know our local MP (who is likely to lose her seat now anyway).

EmilyByTheRiver · 18/04/2017 13:46

Friend supporter and defender of terrorists.

Anti semite.

Refused to provide any support whatsoever for his own Mp Ruth Smeeth when she was heckled at the Labour Party's own report into antisemitism.

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Being wet and rather nasty (and possibly a Stalinist) does not make you 'principled'.

The nicest description of him I have heard is that he 'looks like an alcoholic Geography teacher'.

Headofthehive55 · 18/04/2017 13:47

I can't vote for Corbyn either. Life long labour voter too.

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