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Corbyn is lovely, why the negativity?

896 replies

Wettingthetopbunkbed · 18/04/2017 12:28

Really, why?
Just because he's a bit different in his presentation. He in principled and compassionate, I for one wish he would become the PM.

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Neverknowing · 18/04/2017 13:05

Surely labour is meant to be hard left? Not just basically the tories but with a different name?
I like Corbyn. I think he's the only leader of any party that will actually stand up and make the upper class pay their taxes. Every other party leader is just looking out for their richer than rich friends.
We all remember the Duke who doesn't have to pay inheritance tax because his money is held in a trust. The inheritance tax he should be paying is more than the entire NHS deficit, we need leaders who don't make laws based on the richest people's wants.

user1491148352 · 18/04/2017 13:06

He is mediocre. Not up to the job. Failed miserably over Brexit. Will never be elected.

onelove1234 · 18/04/2017 13:07

I actually think he's terribly lazy. So his policies are consequently idealistic but as soon as they are slightly examined turn out to be impractical and often defeat their own aims. Being a nice guy (which I don't actually agree he is) is not the same as providing good policy solutions for the country and defending the working people of Britain which is supposed to be his job.

wasonthelist · 18/04/2017 13:10

Neverknowing I agree - I couldn't vote for pre-Corbyn labour as they were just Tories with a different badge.

At least Labour is offering some proper socialist policies under Corbyn.

Sadly it seems the Country as a whole has moved to the Right.

ShatnersWig · 18/04/2017 13:10

Neverknowing Actually, you think incorrectly. Here's what the Lib Dems say about precisely those people you mention: "We will make the wealthiest pay their fair share by clamping down on tax dodging and ensuring that unearned wealth is taxed more aggressively than earned income."

You're welcome.

MangoSplit · 18/04/2017 13:10

I think Corbyn is a misogynist.

NameChangeInCasePeopleRecogn · 18/04/2017 13:11

I don't think he sees himself as leader of the country.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 13:11

I don't know the guy personally so I can't comment on his 'loveliness' but I don't see why that would make people want to vote for his party. Surely you vote for the party that you want to run the country, regardless of their personalities. What an odd idea Confused

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 13:12

And anyone who is prepared to pull the ladder up behind him (private education but wants to charge VAT on school fees) is a hypocrite imoo

hackmum · 18/04/2017 13:13

He's been absolutely hopeless at PMQs. He couldn't hit a wide open goal. Also, his own MPs hate him.

Bringmesunshite · 18/04/2017 13:14

Indulges anti-semitism; didn't have the courage to come out as a Leave supporter; can't keep his shadow cabinet together.

Not lovely.

IfNot · 18/04/2017 13:15

Some of his ideas are good, solid socialist ones (which I like) but at the same time he has that dodgy moral relativity that I can't stand in middle class lefty men (generalisation alert) for example his stance on prostitution, and his association with terrorist supporters.
I would love to see a proper, old school, straight talking socialist heading up the PLP.
Someone who has had an actual job at some point, and would fight to protect the NHS, close the loopholes that allow the likes of Amazon to shirk taxes, protect our national interests and stop the great sell off of our assets. Build council housing, sort out public transport.
Real, tangible things that bring in revenue, build infrastructure and strengthen our position.
Corbyn is all beard and no balls.

NoLotteryWinYet · 18/04/2017 13:17

Corbyn is lovely? hahahahahaha. He's a megalomaniac who does not care about being able to get his party elected. I hate him, I hate him as much as I hate Thatcher, he's about as not-lovely as it's possible to get, politically.

In fact I'd say he's holding back progressive causes in this country and I sincerely hope he doesn't get elected. I don't want to spend the next 10 years setting up a National Education Service when we should fix what we've bloody got!

GarkandGookin · 18/04/2017 13:17

The main problem with Corbyn is that Rupert Murdoch can't control him so won't support him. This means the main newspapers and TV channels (including BBC, which has several Murdoch people in top positions) do not report his policies or comments accurately. There have been investigations into this and the results are easily checked online. Corbyn is being portrayed as 'hard left' which has caused hilarity in some European countries as by most other countries standards he is just left of centre. He lacks support from career politicians who just want to be in control at any cost, in order to line their pockets, and who only have loyalty to themselves.
Sadly, most people assume that what they read in the papers is at least based on truth so make comments about him being too left wing, and idealistic when actually he would put a stop to this fake austerity, stop the privatisation of health and education, and stop subsidising the profits of big business.
How would we pay for it ? Maybe the likes of Tesco, Next, Vodaphone, Amazon etc could pay tax. That would increase the pot by billions of pounds a year.

ArcheryAnnie · 18/04/2017 13:17

I will vote Labour because the Tories' policies are just awful, and our local Labour MP is a sensible sort who I mostly trust.

But dear god, Corbyn is a massive useless twonk.

I don't care what lovely words he spouts if, when it comes to action, he gets it so wrong it's painful to watch. He doesn't seem to understand what leadership is. He's stuck in this rut of being a hopeless backbench MP, and not expecting any better result than he's had for the last 30 years.

See, for example, him putting Labour MPs on a three-line whip to vote with the Tories on implementing Article 50, and then planning to appear at a rally outside Parliament opposing Brexit. I mean, he's allowed inside Parliament! To work on proper parliamentary opposition to Brexit, even! There's no point in a fucking rally against Brexit when HE IS THE ONE MAKING THE DECISIONS FOR HIS PARTY ON BREXIT AND HE MADE THE WRONG ONE. (And when it came to it, after urging his supporters to join him at the rally, he never showed up, but that is just par for the course.)

He's a useless tosser, and I hope that the one silver lining of this whole grim episode is that he's voted out of the leadership immediately after the election.

(PS - Daily Mail, if you are trolling this thread for one of your lazy non-articles, please bear in mind that you are utter cuntbadgers. Thank you.)

A1Sharon · 18/04/2017 13:18

Corbyn reminds me of the headmistress at my boys school.
She has been there 2 years. She is lovely, well meaning, very pleasant and extremely hard working.
But she is as wet as a dish cloth and has no leadership qualities, at all. People like her and Corbyn are the backbone of so many organisations, but the just can't lead.

makeourfuture · 18/04/2017 13:20

Voting for the Tories is like Turkeys voting for Christmas.

Absolutely.

ArcheryAnnie · 18/04/2017 13:20

And of course, some of his words are not lovely at all. See: being lukewarm (to be wildly generous) on anti-semitism.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 13:22

Between his views on Brexit and his desire to punish people who want to give their children the same opportunities he himself had, he's not the man to run the country

PeterHouseMD · 18/04/2017 13:22

Complete idiots have an awful lot to answer for.

cowgirlsareforever · 18/04/2017 13:23

He's too weak to lead his own party, never mind the entire UK.

YouBloodyWhat · 18/04/2017 13:25
  1. People love mindlessly repeating meaningless rhetoric like "he wouldn't be a good leader" because they hear/read other people saying it.

  2. People don't want left or right parties anymore. They want marginally left of centre and marginally right of centre options, so that they can complain no matter what the outcome. It's the British way.

ArcheryAnnie · 18/04/2017 13:25

One of the other silver linings when voting Labour while at the same time hating Corbyn is that most Labour MPs hate him too, if the reports are to be believed. That's what gives me a sliver of confidence in the party: that it will survive and outlive Corbyn and somebody sensible will eventually step in.

(PS - Daily Mail, if you do find yourselves reading this thread, you are still utter wankstains and should try actual journalism sometime instead of just cutting-and-pasting stuff you've found on the web. Thank you.)

NoLotteryWinYet · 18/04/2017 13:25

surely it's obvious for someone that talks as much about inclusiveness as he does that he cannot build consensus.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 13:26

They also don't want to be arsed to vote but it doesn't stop them complaining about the result Grin