Corbyn is lovely, why the negativity?

[Wettingthetopbunkbed]

Really, why?
Just because he's a bit different in his presentation. He in principled and compassionate, I for one wish he would become the PM.

Because his plan for Trident involved spending the same amount of money to have subs without nukes.

That's where he lost me.

Oh yeah, and Brexit. He's a fucking disaster.

Wow. Tone of this thread! Like the OP (assuming the OP is genuine and wasn’t deliberately seeking this kind of vitriolic response …) I’m going to go against the tide here, and say I don’t get the negativity; or at least not THIS LEVEL of negativity. It does strike me that there’s a lot fear around – he is trying to do something different at grassroots level, he’s going head to head against the Establishment, and that’s something we haven’t seen in British politics in most of our lifetimes. And these are super-scary times for most of us, where I think we’re looking for safety, stability, for want of a better word a HERO, and JC just doesn’t look or sound ‘the part’. I do just want to say, however, that when I’ve gone to hear him speak – like in real life, at hustings and events, not edited bits in the media, I’ve found him genuinely … inspiring. I think if I only listened to what’s reported in the media, I’d hate him too – but ‘face to face’ I think he’s brilliant. I wouldn’t say ‘lovely’! Not at all! But I feel he’s REALLY on my side, and that’s something I don’t think I’ve ever felt from a politician.

Hear hear oywiththepoodles

he’s going head to head against the Establishment

He is the establishment.

With you on this - I cannot believe I can't vote for labour. It's like the 1980s all over again!
Would love a left of centre alliance.

Again, Trump-esque. Rail against the "establishment" (where you have comfortably resided for decades), say the system is rigged against you, it's all a politico conspiracy and everyone's out to get you because you're a man of the people.

Is anyone else listening to Dawn Butler MP on BBC Radio 4? It is remarkable.

OyWithThePoodles i lived through the 80s Militany / Degsy Hatton fiasco. I distrust entryism in the Labour Party.

we had a pig-fucking, austerity master, off shore money storing PM who brought us the shite that is the referendum and then lost it and the tories are still winning

mindboggling

how how is this even possible?

So we have to look at the nice chap just in from his allotment and ask him what the actual fuck is he doing?

It's a car crash. Is this the best they can do?

She's just said Costa Coffee don't pay enough tax! Eddie Mair said gently 'Are you sure you mean Costa?' and she said she would have to check, she was saying that from memory. How can you forget Starbucks?

Now I hear Len McCluskey's rival is suspended by Unite..

Yes, because that's what he's been doing for 40 years! Preaching to the converted. The same rhetoric. It's when he is questioned and has to actually explain his policies, or how he is going to fund them, or is asked anything about Brexit that he has a problem. He can say what he likes. If he doesn't get the Labour party elected, he may as well be promising the moon on a stick. That is why I'm so vocally against him. It is partly his fault that the Tories are doing what they are doing. They have not been held to account in any way.

Corbyn's niche is passionate speaker at rally.

She was incoherent.

And they wheeled her out after the lovely top debacle, which I believe was her doing..... correct me if I am wrong, but I believe she was the one who made that particular own goal.

What a bloody joke.

She was "lovely top".

Eddie Mair was giving it to her easy by not even mentioning 'lovely top'.

Because he is a weak leader and unelectable in my view.

Even though in the Radio 4 PM interview Eddie Mair handled Dawn Bulter with noticeable sensitivity, she just seemed to fall to pieces in his hands. It was surreal, almost like a performance art piece.

She could not string a sentence together.

The JC acolytes will say it was media misrepresentation but I heard it in real time.

She's had a bad day. Met reality head on in the form of life outside the Labour Party.

poodles

Did you live through the 80s? Well if not prepare yourself for this. Your anti establishment idiot will lead labour into the wilderness for the next 10 years.

And what exactly does anti establishment mean? He's running for fucking prime minister of Britain so hoping to be head of the establishment.

Read Animal farm and prepare for another 10 years of the tories.

I like him and like his policies.

The Tories are awful, all the cuts, screwing the NHS, the rise of food banks. voting for them would make things worse not better.

Vegetables – I don’t get your comments about entryism? If that was aimed at me, rest assured I’m not a £3 supporter or a Corbyn fangirl, I’ve been in (and occasionally out!) of the Labour Party for 30 years. He wouldn’t be (wasn’t in fact) my first choice for leader, but I still rate him as a politician and I think he's far from the hopeless shitshow he's being portrayed as on this thread.