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Corbyn is lovely, why the negativity?

896 replies

Wettingthetopbunkbed · 18/04/2017 12:28

Really, why?
Just because he's a bit different in his presentation. He in principled and compassionate, I for one wish he would become the PM.

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flippinada · 20/04/2017 13:02

Thanks Gretchen

scaryclown · 20/04/2017 13:04

I am amazed that people haven't noticed the complete arse the conservatives/coalitions with conservatives in have made of the country.

Min wage culture, fake name for min wage to fool the dumb sheeple, massive hike in tribunal fees to stop challenges to dodgy employers, effective removal of the benefit safety net to increase desperation to enable employers to pay teeny tiny wages, concepts like 'apprenticeships' to reduce hourly rates to pre 1960s level for youngsters, foodbanks becoming an essential part of our national culture, even in our most wealthiest towns and cities (There are 6 in my small high wealth town). Begging and homelessness a staple of even the most obscure towns and permanent fixtures in all our cities, underemployment a feature of the employment market, widely tested and acknowledged low productivity of UK firms, outrageous CEO multipliers, MASSIVE bonuses sanctioned and encouraged by their core supporters for even nationalised banks WHEN THEY ARE MAKING THE BIGGEST LOSSES THEY HAVE EVER MADE.
Increased public borrowing, higher than any other government in history, increasing deficit, horrific drops in our currency value, jaw-dropping period of stagnation on the way as we 'negotiate' on Europe, massive foreign ownership of our city centres, and edge of town developments (such that a recent huge development in manchester had two local flat owners out of a few thousand properties), most of our largest brands paying minimum wage and no taxes with no real critism or action BUT a massive sustained attack on the smallest businesses and sole traders instead, a STILL INCREASING personal debt issue, largely because of the low wage culture,..

how much evidence do you need? A ban on tweed?

flippinada · 20/04/2017 13:04

Aaargh. Sorry about typos, am posting on my phone.

QueenOlivine · 20/04/2017 13:07

Corbyn is very like Trump in one way, that total refusal to admit that he's an arse or has ever done anything wrong or mistaken. It's like gaslighting writ large. And the creepy thing is that on some people, it works - the person can be responsible for all kinds of failures/horrors, but if they just refuse to accept it's a bad thing, lots of people will just go along with it. It's only a sense of shame and bowing to general opinion that makes people resign after scandals and failures.

GretchenFranklin · 20/04/2017 13:12

But what failures or horrors has he done Queen?

I mean worse than Cameron and now May in this horrific episode of tory government?

Batgirlspants · 20/04/2017 13:12

So we are all trolls or lbrsin washed to the right wing press,

Fucking idiots.

NoLotteryWinYet · 20/04/2017 13:12

i hear you gretchen if only blair hadn't gone on his moral crusade. it's a hard one though, in retrospect it is all such a disaster but at the time i was a moral interventionist. i can see it's a disaster and has lead to more power vacuums, but the simpleton in me at the time said Hussein was a bastard who murdered his own people...foreign policy is a mucky business. That was before all the sexing up the dossier stuff though.

Bringmesunshite · 20/04/2017 13:12

Scary, would you vote for a Blairite to get a Labour Government in ?

Headofthehive55 · 20/04/2017 13:13

Tuition fees of course being introduced by a labour government...so whilst training they "earn" even less than apprentices...

GretchenFranklin · 20/04/2017 13:14

Hussein was an atrocious cunt.

I never understood why we didn't send in some James Bond style personnel to take him out (am aware this makes me sound about 12)

NoLotteryWinYet · 20/04/2017 13:19

i hate to say it, but i agreed with tuition fees too - i got charitable funding for uni - tuition fees although unpopular was right in my mind as who goes to university? Middle class kids, by and large. A better raft of scholarships to widen attainment with most people saving and paying for their university made sense to me...

i really am a blairite through and through...

Rikalaily · 20/04/2017 13:19

Having Corbyn as PM vs keeping the Tories? Ermmm I'll take the old codger over that shower of bastards any day of the week thanks.

NoLotteryWinYet · 20/04/2017 13:19

yeah i wish we could call on James Bond and Bourne to go around the world taking out the bad guys - we'd need a small army of James Bonds at this point I fear!

Batgirlspants · 20/04/2017 13:24

Bloody hell 'brainwashed'

GretchenFranklin · 20/04/2017 13:24

NoLottery I think you've cracked it, a great plan

Batgirlspants · 20/04/2017 13:28

I though Blaire was amazing in the early 90s and well remember the euphoria of labour getting in after years of the tories.

I fear we have a very long time to wait to feel that again .

NoLotteryWinYet · 20/04/2017 13:30

about 5 years I reckon...

Headofthehive55 · 20/04/2017 13:36

Having parents who are well off is no guarantee that the child is well resourced or given leg ups. In fact they are presumed to have, but often have very little. I think this is often conveniently forgotten.

QueenOlivine · 20/04/2017 13:40

yes the horrors are more Trump, like gloating about grabbing women's pussies - with Corbyn it's more things like his cabinet resigning in protest and failing to lead successfully. Not the same crimes, I just mean the same attitude to things that other people would resign over.

Of course May and Cameron are evil, from my POV - poor-hating, public-service-dismantling, merciless bastards. But that is what Tories are there for, to protect the privileges of the rich and maintain inequality, so what do you expect. They dress themselves up as other things and use things like people's fear of immigration and crime to make themselves attractive.

You can't compare Corbyn to what they're doing as he's not in power. His left-wing ideals, in terms of equality and nationalisation, may be fine but he can't make them happen if he can't lead his party and get elected. He is shit at that and he should admit it and step down.

Anon1234567890 · 20/04/2017 13:48

When a wounded animal is in pain you put them down. The Tories are helping Labour put JC down so they can rebuild the opposition. Its not being negative its just the cold truth of reality.

birdsdestiny · 20/04/2017 14:20

I can't wait for the excuses when he has lost. Well it wasnt real voters who voted against him it was ..... who?, the russians, trump supporters, pick your favourite conspiracy theory. Do you understand what you sound like. I have voted Labour for 25 years. I am real! The Tories don't need to plant pretend Labour party voters on MN to win. I can't believe I am even arguing this point.
I voted Blair. If Blair invaded the Labour party and declared himself honourary leader for life we would lose fewer seats.

brasty · 20/04/2017 14:24

Corbynistas seem out of touch with reality. I still see people commenting on face book that Corbyn is going to win the election if only people like me stop criticising him.

NoLotteryWinYet · 20/04/2017 14:26

i agree bird but it'll be the traitorous twatty blairites and our disunity and disloyalty wot lost it for the 'lovely' JC. Not his fundamental crapness.

If all the moderate labour MPs broke away now, they'd have a better chance of keeping their seats than standing on a Corbyn ticket.

user1489179512 · 20/04/2017 14:27

He is abysmal. The Tories will be in government for the foreseeable future due to Labour's gross ineptitude. The worst think of all is that there is now, in effect, no Opposition to speak of.

user1489179512 · 20/04/2017 14:27

...worst THING

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