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Corbyn is lovely, why the negativity?

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Wettingthetopbunkbed · 18/04/2017 12:28

Really, why?
Just because he's a bit different in his presentation. He in principled and compassionate, I for one wish he would become the PM.

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LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 23:39

It says a lot when even staunch labour voters won't give him the time of day

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 18/04/2017 23:41

I'm with you Wetting. I can't understand the contempt, yet. There's seemingly no hate for a party responsible for the bedroom tax cuts to the disabled benefit sanctions, cuts to the police and NHS.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 18/04/2017 23:41

I'm a staunch labour voter and I'm voting for him.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 23:44

Okay so A LOT of staunch labour voters....

He seems to divide people between those who think he's the new Messiah (I know people on FB who talk about him in the same emotional terms as the OP did) and those who think he's a completely useless twat

Anon1234567890 · 18/04/2017 23:49

Look up his education, he is a bit of a thicko, hasn't passed any exams ever. Why would anyone a thicko running the country?

Anon1234567890 · 18/04/2017 23:50

Why would anyone want a thicko running the country?

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 23:50

And yet he wants to stop people being able to send their kids to independent schools - I know I keep on about it but nobody has explained how someone can be so lovely and principled and yet happy to stitch people up

WeDoNotSow · 18/04/2017 23:51

TBH I can't believe the so called labour supporters who feel 'betrayed' or 'can never forgive him' or whatever that he didn't put a hundred percent into the remain campaign.
This guy was a HARD CORE 'lexiter'.
For about two DECADES. Where were you?!?
And all this he's lovely and principled, and the media have a smear campaign etc, it's just confirmation bias, plain and simple. You've decided you like him, and any facts that could hinder that are just written off as a 'smear' because, why let facts get in the way of a good story and all that.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 18/04/2017 23:55

WeDo absolutely

(Love your username btw Grin)

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 18/04/2017 23:56

Principled Hmm

yeah so principled that he has sat on the back benches for years rebelling against his own party and voting continuously against them one wonders why he didn't join the Socialist Labour Party as others did from Labour but then again he wouldn't have a political career of doing not much else than rebelling while gaining a very nice pension

Oh and then of course are his terrorist friends invites to ex IRA terrorists to parliament weeks after the Brighton Bombing (he should have been kicked out then what an utter disgrace) his turning a blind eye to anti Semitism within the party even at a press conference
regarding that very issue

There is nothing principled about the man you have been taken in by his PR spin

ArcheryAnnie · 18/04/2017 23:56

There's seemingly no hate for a party responsible for the bedroom tax cuts to the disabled benefit sanctions, cuts to the police and NHS.

Then you haven't been paying attention, Awlookatmybabyspider. One of the many reasons I loathe Corbyn is that he's done fuck-all to effectively oppose terrible Tory policies.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 19/04/2017 00:05

Agree ArcheryAnnie

He has made it so easy for the Tories no wonder May is calling an election its win win for them

bojorojo · 19/04/2017 00:11

The reason people in marginals (and they are the only voters who count) don't hate the Conservatives is that they haven't been massively affected by the cuts and even if they have, they prefer TM to negotiate Brexit. Some hospitals are still working well and not everyone has had benefit cuts. Most voters haven't in fact.

This election will be about getting on with Brexit and Labour will find it very difficult to get the voters in the marginals to dig deep into their pockets for higher taxation because everything they mention requires a massive amount of new money. The marginals are the only seats that count and people will think they pay enough tax. A few free school meals and screwing parents who use independent schools won't fix the problems of useless JC and higher taxation rates.

WeDoNotSow · 19/04/2017 00:15

Theres seemingly no hate... etc is such a non-argument though. Unless you can quote someone on this thread actually saying they love the bedroom tax, mentioning it is illogical, irrelevant and only done to detract from the argument

VivienneEastwood · 19/04/2017 00:19

Corbyn or May?

Surely we should be seeing beyond the marketing faces of these organisations and looking closer at what they stand for and what their policies are.
Anyone who is put off voting for a party because of their frontman/ front-woman needs to read more.
All this vacant 'she wears leopard print shoes' & 'he wears scruffy jackets' political diatribe which is aimed at lazy thinkers and the white van man, proves they do not think we are worthy of the facts.
The MSM are sexist and bigoted 💅🏻

brasty · 19/04/2017 01:01

I am in my early 50s. I have always voted, and always voted Labour. I hate Corbyn. Who is in power matters, it affects the poor and vulnerable most. And supporting someone who is never ever going to get elected, is basically saying your "principles" matter more than everyone who is being totally screwed by the Tories.

And yes Corbyn is misogynistic, and at best, does not care about anti semitism.

scaryclown · 19/04/2017 01:52

He talks to his political opposites.. That's maturity. Its at school when the bitches go 'I hate them, so nobody talk to them, ok' That's not how you do international politics.

Have you not seen May cosy up to all sort of wankers?

FFS you naiveoids.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 19/04/2017 01:59

naiveoids Ah nothing helps an argument more than random namecalling....

OlennasWimple · 19/04/2017 02:13

I really resent someone who has been a career politician being presented as a "man of the people" just because he hasn't always toed the party line and doesn't wear a tie

I really resent someone who is at best an apologist for terrorists and at worst a support of terrorism being presented as a credible potential leader for the UK

These are two reasons why I simply cannot vote for Labour this election, as painful as that is for me to concede

ilovechoc1987 · 19/04/2017 02:20

He's a little too left wing for me.
Id like him to be my dad but not my pm.

Bringmesunshite · 19/04/2017 06:39

He doesn't talk to his political opposites. He poses with twatty terrorist supporters to look "cool".

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 19/04/2017 07:34

I'm very glad he wasn't my dad. When his son was 11 he got a place at an outer London grammar school. Corbyn didn't want to accept that. He wanted his son to go to the nearest state school, which was not in a good way at the time. His wife (second of three) insisted that their son went to the better school, and this led directly to their divorce.

My parents, by contrast, were absolutely delighted when I won a scholarship to a direct grant school (independent but taking a large number of scholarship/assisted places girls with a government grant, abolished by Labour in the mid 70s) and supported me wholeheartedly. Having said that, I didn't come from an affluent middle-to-upper-middle class background, as Corbyn did, so it transformed my life in a way that perhaps it wouldn't his child's.

I have little time for Dianne Abbott, but when faced with an even more stark dilemma (to pay for her son to go to City of London Boys' or send him to a failing school) she put her son first. Harman did similar (St Olave's, an elite state grammar school) and so did Blair (London Oratory, elite Catholic 'comprehensive' school).

Now I'm sure Corbyn and many of his supporters would have said that many families have no choice in those circumstances so he was showing class solidarity by wanting to stick with the local schools even when they were not doing well. He may have felt, as many do, that a bright child from a supportive home would be OK in the long run. I'm not so sure about that. I would have hated being at a school with a constant turnover of teachers, hardly anyone of my level of ability, behaviour problems galore and no specialist teachers in some subjects, e.g. Science or Maths.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 19/04/2017 07:35

He talks to his political opposites

Oh yes like when he refused to share a platform with David Cameron in the referendum campaign

Even though they were both campaigning (well one certainly was) to remain in the EU

When you are PM you do have to cosy up to wankers May unfortunately had no choice but to keep Trump on our side since he UK voted to leave the EU we need certain countries on our side the US being one of them. I would have preferred less fawning over Trump and the special relationship but she knows he is is a dimwit so had to play along with his ridiculous ego

Corbyn has never had reason to share platforms with terrorists yet his PR team have frantically tried to rewrite his part in the peace efforts (he never played a part apart)

indigox · 19/04/2017 07:43

Yes, he's so principled he's refused to resign as leader and is leading the Labour party to decimation - just the type of person you want leading the country?

ShatnersWig · 19/04/2017 07:52

Scary Can't you see that lots of people who have voted Labour would like to vote Labour but won't because of Corbyn and his acolytes. Many times on this thread I have asked the few people like you who rate him highly to try and articulate WHY, to try and help us perhaps think differently. Yet none of you have been able to beyond "he's lovely" and "surely you hate the Tories?" When we have countered your arguments as to why we don't think he's lovely - with actual facts (his voting record, his links with terrorists, the Jewish problems within Labour) - all you can do it start name calling. YOU and people like you are as much to blame as Corbyn for the likely Tory landslide.