Corbyn is lovely, why the negativity?

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Really, why?
Just because he's a bit different in his presentation. He in principled and compassionate, I for one wish he would become the PM.

I agree he has principals, just not ones which are shared by many people.
If he goes after Labour lose a Ton of seats then Labour may just be saved in the nick of time, as Corbyn was apparently planning some internal reorganisation later in the year to cement his people into the future infrastructure of the party.
But then again, he may well decide to stay until he's accomplished that...
If so RIP sensible Left.

I went to see him speak even though I'm not a Labour supporter. I felt like the media were unkind in their portrayal of him and I wanted to see how he came across in person.

Arrogant, is the answer.

Corbyn is not a leader. Worse than that, his ideas range from pie-in-the-sky to downright dangerous. If he ever becomes PM, DH and I have agreed to move to another country.

It doesn't matter how much opposition Corbyn presents against May and the government (which he does regularly) because the mainstream media won't report it. It doesn't matter how many good policies Corbyn puts forward because the mainstream media won't report them. There is a sustained media attack against Corbyn as this <a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/jeremy-corbyn-media-bias-labour-party-media-reform-coalition-birkbeck-a7163706.html" target="_blank">studyy* found.

This.
He is exactly what is needed. Unfortunately the press seem to hate him.

Unfortunately the media aren't responsible for his politics, Corbyn is responsible for that and it's his brand of Labour which is unappealing and unelectable.
Labour need to take Tory seats to get in No. 10, Soft Tories won't vote for a hard left policies.

Projected no of votes based on the 2015 Election Turnout of 66.1% based on Current polls 2017 General Election Voting numbers.

Conservative 43% 13,334000
Labour 23% 7,047000
Lib Dems 15% 4,580000
UKIP '6'% 1,842000 Vote contracted

SNP 4.7% 1,450000

Current polls with a bit of adding/subtracting Lib Dems , UKIPs positions.

When he appointed chakrabati to the h of l minutes after she cleared his party of anti- semitism was that evidence of his integrity and principle?
I think Corbyn has a cult of true believers who will never desert him whatever he does. But this is not evidence of integrity, ability or anything else - merely of some people's desperate need for quasi religious faith in a secular age.

Wow.

I can't believe how image obsessed people are.
When I was younger, I was told by a twatty cufflink obsessive that you could spot good sales people because they wore cufflink shirts, cufflinks, big watches and twatty shoes. He had been in that world so long, if he saw someone not wearing twat salesman uniform, he genuinely thought they must have been substandard at their job.

He was mortified when people with normal shoes, shirts and suit got good sales results. It rocked his world entirely.

That's what happening with some of you guys. You've been told that blank, but expensive suit, neat political coloured tie and weirdo inclusive hand gestures 'demonstrate' 'good judgement' and 'political astuteness'. Corbyn doesn't demonstrate these, so you think therefore he's a bad politician. Media people think media friendliness is the ultimate pinnacle of human achievement - so they think hes substandard because he doesn't apple polish his face and darken his eyebrows whilst self-tanning to buggery - and you are being drawn into that world too.

Don't be.

The press seem to hate him is meted out to intelligent people who don't like Corbyn because it implies they believe everything they read in 'the rags' (as one party member put it).

Hello? I don't buy the Daily Mail, nor do I read The Sun.

Scary could you be more patronising?

I think you under did the tanning bit.

Scary some of us people have been campaigning members of The Labour Party for over 30 years

try and understand the points people are making - maybe read the thread - rather than dismissing peoples views ...which seems a familiar trait in the party these days

Scary News alert! Women get it that the Corbyn doesn't look like the latest James Bond or CBeebies hottie. but then again, neither does the May

JC is a protester, not a leader.
He looks like a science teacher (yes, presentation has a part).
He lives in a world where the world has unlimited funds to help the poor, elderly and disadvantaged. I would live that world too, but it ain't real.
He is too Islington, too London -centric. You hardly see him anywhere but London and the South East.
His anti-nuclear stance is too much for me. I recognise the need to have nuclear weapons despite the unlikely need to use them.
He is very wishy-washy. I am liberal but he is so far left of me I have to turn around!

I get that seasoned members of political parties hate when someone moves faster up the ranks than they wanted them to, and that they don't like a leader they can't control by bitching and sneering, but its that middle ranking ponderous party layer that needs stirring (and waking) up.

Unfortunately that layer will have to get their noses put out of joint if they aren't going to step up into more dynamic roles. Is like any company leader or church committee. The complacent third raters will always loathe someone coming in and doing what they should have done.. but didn't

Heathen There is plenty of money in the world to help the 'poor'. It just happens that those who have money want to keep it and do not want to share.

The Corbyn went on today and spoke of reaching out to everyone. Now he obviously didn't speak to you. Or me. He speaks of idealisms, which the Tory Party is great at btw, but his version will never be seen as truthful. The May however, knows her audience well, grabby and opportunistic.

You are the May Scary and I claim my five pounds.

May would train one person in a football team, and have the team lose, but go around saying she supported the most successful member of the team, and so is a wonderful leader.

Corbyn would train the whole team.

Corbyn can't keep anyone in his team.

Because he would have the drunken fans in the pub deselect its members

Corbyn would train the whole team

What? This is a person who has struggled to get to grips with the simple business of making clear, quick decisions on his leadership team. Before he became Leader he voted time and time again against the party whip. What on earth makes you think he is a good team player?

And once again we have the handwringing about the media ignoring Corbyn. Hello, it's 2017! Get onto social media. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, god knows what else. I'm told the Russians and Macedonians can be very helpful here.

Corbyn would train the whole team

LOL!

Yet again, another Corbyn supporter blaming the media, when many of us have said it is clear from PMQs he hasn't got the ability and in Parliament he and his front bench team are not effective or capable of providing effective opposition. That's nothing to do with the media!

I've never met a good team leader who just toed the line and waited for back pats for being 'good'. That's what party followers would do.

The main reason conservatives do better than they should given their party size and unpopularity, is that their mid rankers understand that their fight is with the competition, not bitching and griping about anyone who wants to move things forward so that they can stay complacent.

Sadly the people bitching and saying 'Corbyn is not a team player' etc are demonstrating by their very actions that they are only concerned about their own views being listened to, not on making Labour strong.

You don't win a motor race by fighting over the steering wheel, you win by the whole team working to make the driver successful.

If you resent the driver getting the credit and the champagne and want to break up the car because your sorry ass isn't the driver and never will be, frankly your influence needs to be minimised.

Politics is a team game, and so you follow the leader. Simple.

It wasn't the media's fault that he took a holiday in the middle of the Brexit campaign, was it? I will never forgive him for his abject failure to provide any effective opposition to the Leave campaign.

I may vote Labour. I live in one of the safest Labour constituencies in the country and our local MP is good. She is not in the shadow cabinet, campaigned for Remain and voted against Article 50. Even if I don't vote for her I think she will still win. It would be a lot harder to know what to do if I lived in a marginal constituency.

A quiet thoughtful and consolidating leader before is more likely to win than a spear rattler. I wonder if some of the posters here really are tufsenough?