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Clare's Law application

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:24

Would you do it if you found out someone you were dating had lied about their past (small lie), and been removed from the GMC register potentially (as in complete erasure and there is no longer any record of them at all)? Of course it's possible they were never on it in the first place.

Can't decide if I am being batshit crazy, I should just walk away for even thinking this, or I should make the application?

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BusterGonad · 15/04/2017 10:26

Do you mean they were struck off?

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:28

Yes.

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Trifleorbust · 15/04/2017 10:29

Not enough information here.

Bluntness100 · 15/04/2017 10:29

What's th correlation here op. He has told you he was struck off the gmc, did he tell you why? You suspect it is in relation to domestic abuse?

c3pu · 15/04/2017 10:30

Bin them off entirely.

If they're prepared to build a relationship on a foundation of lies and deceit, then it isn't going to go well.

LTB, head for the hills.

Gingernaut · 15/04/2017 10:35

Being struck off is no easy matter. There are doctors who committed gross breaches of the GMC code and only been suspended.

Either he/she has lied to you and was never on the register (and lied as explanation for his/her name not being there) or he/she was struck off but is lying about why.

Run.

scaevola · 15/04/2017 10:37

Well, either he's been struck off (which is a pretty big deal) or he is a Walter Mitty who was never on it in the first place.

Both of which are serious issues.

Did he give you any reason why he was struck off?

Pollypickypocket · 15/04/2017 10:38

You are not struck off a 'small matter so it in my opinion will no be a 'small lie'

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:41

Trifle I can't give anymore information.

Bluntness No, he hasn't told me - he has told me he was a doctor and is no longer a doctor. The reason he gave me seemed plausible and I didn't think to much of it until it was raised in casual conversation a few days ago. I checked the GMC register this morning and can find absolutely no record of him.

I've also put in a friend's name who gave up his license for a similar reasons (to what I was told) and by his name it says "Not Registered - Administrative Reason"

c3pu I won't leave him for the small lie (it was akin to saying his favourite colour is pink, just because he knew my favourite colour was pink and was trying to impress me).

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:43

Small lie and potentially being struck off are two separate things. If I knew for sure he had been struck off and erased I would not have pursued this relationship.

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Bluntness100 · 15/04/2017 10:44

A Claire's law application is a domestic abuse disclosure though. Being struck off can be for many reasons, from adultary with a patient to being an alcoholic...

NeedMoreSleepOrSugar · 15/04/2017 10:46

I'm confused, Claire's law is about dv, so are there three issues here - the small lie, the gmc registration (or lack thereof) and a potential history of dv?

notapizzaeater · 15/04/2017 10:47

Presume you've googled his name ?

hibbledobble · 15/04/2017 10:47

Gmc hearings (which are required in order to erase someone from the register) are available in the public domain. When was he supposedly suspended? This story sounds very suspect indeed.

I also agree with what others have said: that only the most serious cases lead to erasure.

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:49

I may have misunderstood Clare's Law, but my understanding was it brings up all acts of violence against another person (so DV, sexual assault, rape, GBH etc). It's all patterns of abuse?

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hibbledobble · 15/04/2017 10:49

You also mention 'giving up his license '. This is very different to erasure.

What makes you worry about domestic violence?

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:51

Hibble Yes I know (I know a rapist that has been erased, which is why i can't work out if I am being deranged and over anxious with my thinking or actually sensible).

MTPS judgements online don't go back far enough.

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BusterGonad · 15/04/2017 10:53

You need to talk to him properly to give him the chance to come clean, if you are still not satisfied then the relationship sounds doomed regardless of Clare's Law.

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:53

What makes you worry about domestic violence?

The fact that he may have committed a heinous crime in the past (which has led to erasure from the GMC register). Nothing else.

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:53

Notapizza - yes. Nothing comes up.

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Bluntness100 · 15/04/2017 10:54

But why would you think he has committed a heinous crime? As said you can be struck off for many reasons, shagging a patient being one of them, so why do you automatically think he committed a heinous crime?

Bluntness100 · 15/04/2017 10:55

And if he'd committed a heinous crime and was struck off for it, he would have went to jail. Has he been in jail?

Oldbutstillgotit · 15/04/2017 10:58

OP clearly you are uneasy about something so my advice is to follow your instincts. I am in Scotland so may be slightly different but I applied unde Clare 's Law as I was very uneasy about DD's new BF; couldn't put my finger on it but things didn't add up. Transpired he had a history of DV. Better safe than sorry .

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 10:58

Bluntness I don't. I want to know he hasn't committed such a crime. My experience with erased doctors is a rape. I've never known a doctor who has been erased for the things you have said.

If he's been struck of for substance abuse, or sleeping with a patient, I honestly don't know what I would do, but at the moment I don't know it was either of those things either. And whilst an inappropriate relationship with a patient is totally shit, it significantly reduces the risk to me then say, rape or assault or DV.

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CosmoKlit · 15/04/2017 11:00

bluntness I've never asked. Literally it was only this morning that I checked the GMC register, expecting it to have his name, number and "not registered due too XYZ' and history of speciality on there. It was only when I didn't see that that I have felt really, really, uneasy.

Oldbut Thank you, that's how I felt for the last couple of days, it just feels like checking the register has raised more concerns / questions.

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