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AIBU - 12yo boy peed in relative's garden in front of 5yo DD

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Concerned45 · 14/04/2017 21:05

Looking for advice in delicate situation please.

We left our DD at family party for 7yo with plenty of relatives to look out for her. She is used to spending time there and there were lots of children there although DD was one of only 2 girls of at least 10 children.

In asking about the party on her return she mentioned the above incident. I asked whether she told a grown up and who else was there at the time. She said it was just the 2 of them in a part if the garden not visible from house, other children were in other part if garden or in the house at the time and that he had told her not to tell anyone that it happened. I asked why she thinks he did it given that the garden isn't large and there are several toilets in house, she said he just needed to go there and then but she didn't see his boy bits.

The boy in questions is DS of a relative. All wider family have perceived for at least 10yrs that he has some SEN issues that probably need intervention or at least support. He is a v sweet and polite boy but his behaviour is routinely very disruptive, v over excited and unable to play in a calm way or avoid breaking toys or damaging furniture/ornaments esp when he was younger, on one occasion he spoke to his mother in what I would regard as really quite scary aggressive/threatening tones when he realised they wouldn't get home in time to watch his favourite tv programme. Having started secondary school, apparently he has v few friends and has an arrangement to stay indoors at lunchtime as the playground presented to many challenges. From what I know, his mother does not consider that he needs anything other than love and attention in order to overcome earlier disruption in his life (he is not biological DS of my relative but she has had him since he was a toddler). Am not sure where my relative's DH stands on this issue but he clearly seems to get very stressed out by DS' behaviour. Wider family have gently tried to suggest getting additional support for him but response from mother has not been positive. I'm not close enough to know full details of this but have never passed judgement on how my relative is bringing up her DC (her other DC, also not biological do not suffer from same behavioural issues). We've tried to accommodate her DS and e.g. intervened to defuse situation when other adults are getting stressed out at his behaviour if his parents are not around etc.

Anyway, with this recent incident, my DH is absolutely fuming and wants me to address it but I'm not sure how to go about it. I've briefly discussed it with the host of the party who was mortified and v apologetic to us. I assured them it wasn't their fault as the DC are old enough to look after themselves playing in enclosed garden and I wouldn't have spent the whole party following DD around the garden anyway had I been there. The host agrees this is a tricky situation but that it needs to be communicated back to the DS' mother.

AIBU regardless of the outcome of the conversation (when it happens) to avoid DD interacting with this boy or should we try to be part of a wider supportive network to help him?

Any advice gratefully received on this point as well as on how to raise this issue in the first place.

OP posts:
Mum2jenny · 14/04/2017 22:17

It's not a big deal op, but I'm guessing you've already worked it out from the responses.

FelixtheMouse · 14/04/2017 22:17

You are massively over thinking this. He had a wee, that's all.

Violetcharlotte · 14/04/2017 22:18

I think you're being rather overdramatic. I can't believe it was on the path where babies were crawling around... Where were the parents of these babies??

Peeing in a garden isn't great, but 12 year old boys do this type of thing sometimes, usually as they're too lazy to go inside and when they think they can get away with it!

Devilishpyjamas · 14/04/2017 22:18

What impact on your dd? Good grief - a boy peed in a garden.

And of course he told her not to say anything - he knows he would have been told to go inside. Which rather suggests there are no concerns about him understanding appropriate behaviour. He was just being lazy.

I peed on my friend's lawn when we were camping there as teenagers. We both did. Actually friends' lawns as I camped in many a garden as a teen.

JigglyTuff · 14/04/2017 22:19

Reading your post more carefully, you think there's something 'wrong' with this. What does him not being a blood relative have to do with anything?

Honestly, the careful way you've worded this coupled with your husband's anger leave a very nasty taste

lljkk · 14/04/2017 22:19

Did he commence to wee knowing she was there & able/likely to watch?

Is he generally clueless about toileting boundaries, does he even know girls aren't supposed to see boys do that?

teaandakitkat · 14/04/2017 22:21

You shouldn't be worried about the 'impact' on your dd, there won't be any.

But it is rude. He should have gone inside to the toilet, he's 12 years old.

He does not need a 'wider supportive network', but if he'd done it in my garden he'd have been told in no uncertain terms to use the toilet next time like everyone else.

Lucy7400 · 14/04/2017 22:22

My nephew does this. I don't like it and wouldn't allow my son to do it but its not s biggie. I am confused about the over reaction? Are you concerned about any other incident/ following a gut feeling about this boy OP?

user1486076969 · 14/04/2017 22:22

Hmm..............

PovertyPain · 14/04/2017 22:23

That little bit that you've added on suggests that he was facing her, op. Was he? Did she turn around because he peed, while facing her or because he was having a pee. Are you saying he got his penis out in full view? Have I asked the same question too many times, in different ways? 🤔

Pentapus · 14/04/2017 22:23

I had a wee in my own garden the other day. Very big garden, a long way to the loo, couldn't round up small children before creaky old pelvic floor gave way. Am hoping the nitrates will suit the plants. My nosy 2 year old watched. Meh.

nickienackienoo · 14/04/2017 22:25

This really is a non issue OP. He's probably a (lazy 12 year old boy, like my son was) who needed the loo and couldn't be bothered. You've also said yourself he is immature for his age but a sweet boy.

Please don't make this out to be something 'seedy' - it's really not. And tell your DH to calm down Hmm

APlaceOnTheCouch · 14/04/2017 22:25

Your OP says your DD 'mentioned' the incident - not that she was traumatised/pressured/upset- a 'mention' isn't a sign of distress.

TheRealPooTroll · 14/04/2017 22:26

If the boy was facing her her dd that's a pretty big bit of info missing from the op.

MuttsNutts · 14/04/2017 22:26

Sorry but you're being ridiculous.

He had a quick wee in the garden.

That. Is. All.

MimsyFluff · 14/04/2017 22:26

My DD had a poop in our garden once don't worry she's been seen by the psychiatrist once a week, it's been a long journey but we hope she can make a full recovery. Please have a prayer for us sometimes I lay awake at night in worry Sad

Devilishpyjamas · 14/04/2017 22:27

OP said in her 1st post her dd didn't see his 'boy bits'

Darbs76 · 14/04/2017 22:27

My Ds is 12 and if he weed in someone's garden (no matter who was around) I'd want to know to have a word with him as it's not appropriate unless for some reason all toilets were occupied and he was desperate. But I don't think there's any kind of safeguarding issue and really not sure why your husband is furious. I wouldn't make a mountain out a molehill - just make sure the parents are made aware and leave it at that.

Chickoletta · 14/04/2017 22:28

YABVVVVVU.

Birdsbeesandtrees · 14/04/2017 22:28

Impact on DD ?

A boy had a wee in the garden and yes it was a bit naughty when there was a toilet inside but that's it. What possible impact could there be ? I'm sure she is aware sometimes other people and children do things they probably shouldn't on occasion.

NorksAreMessy · 14/04/2017 22:29

Apparently wee is good for the compost.
shame I can't manage to balance on the plastic compost bin to achieve it
Grin

NearlyEaster · 14/04/2017 22:30

My DS (older than OP's DD) gets asked to take his girl cousin of OP's DD's age to the toilet. She goes in the men's with him. She doesn't seem scarred.

Sugarpiehoneyeye · 14/04/2017 22:31

OP, we can't all be wrong.
Boys like peeing in bushes, peeing in snow, and peeing the perfect arch ! 😄
If he had been exposing himself, or been untoward, or you truly thought, that his intentions were a danger, to your daughter, you wouldn't be broadcasting on here.
Your DH needs to get a grip.

PovertyPain · 14/04/2017 22:31

I'm now feeling bad that I didn't get counselling for my grate, after my friend peed in it. ☹️ Do you think the builder's yard would have a number? 🤔

RebelRogue · 14/04/2017 22:31

You haven't said a very important bit of information...how this came about.

Anyways has your DD never seen anyone else pee? You or her dad,brothers,sisters etc?

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