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AIBU - 12yo boy peed in relative's garden in front of 5yo DD

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Concerned45 · 14/04/2017 21:05

Looking for advice in delicate situation please.

We left our DD at family party for 7yo with plenty of relatives to look out for her. She is used to spending time there and there were lots of children there although DD was one of only 2 girls of at least 10 children.

In asking about the party on her return she mentioned the above incident. I asked whether she told a grown up and who else was there at the time. She said it was just the 2 of them in a part if the garden not visible from house, other children were in other part if garden or in the house at the time and that he had told her not to tell anyone that it happened. I asked why she thinks he did it given that the garden isn't large and there are several toilets in house, she said he just needed to go there and then but she didn't see his boy bits.

The boy in questions is DS of a relative. All wider family have perceived for at least 10yrs that he has some SEN issues that probably need intervention or at least support. He is a v sweet and polite boy but his behaviour is routinely very disruptive, v over excited and unable to play in a calm way or avoid breaking toys or damaging furniture/ornaments esp when he was younger, on one occasion he spoke to his mother in what I would regard as really quite scary aggressive/threatening tones when he realised they wouldn't get home in time to watch his favourite tv programme. Having started secondary school, apparently he has v few friends and has an arrangement to stay indoors at lunchtime as the playground presented to many challenges. From what I know, his mother does not consider that he needs anything other than love and attention in order to overcome earlier disruption in his life (he is not biological DS of my relative but she has had him since he was a toddler). Am not sure where my relative's DH stands on this issue but he clearly seems to get very stressed out by DS' behaviour. Wider family have gently tried to suggest getting additional support for him but response from mother has not been positive. I'm not close enough to know full details of this but have never passed judgement on how my relative is bringing up her DC (her other DC, also not biological do not suffer from same behavioural issues). We've tried to accommodate her DS and e.g. intervened to defuse situation when other adults are getting stressed out at his behaviour if his parents are not around etc.

Anyway, with this recent incident, my DH is absolutely fuming and wants me to address it but I'm not sure how to go about it. I've briefly discussed it with the host of the party who was mortified and v apologetic to us. I assured them it wasn't their fault as the DC are old enough to look after themselves playing in enclosed garden and I wouldn't have spent the whole party following DD around the garden anyway had I been there. The host agrees this is a tricky situation but that it needs to be communicated back to the DS' mother.

AIBU regardless of the outcome of the conversation (when it happens) to avoid DD interacting with this boy or should we try to be part of a wider supportive network to help him?

Any advice gratefully received on this point as well as on how to raise this issue in the first place.

OP posts:
PunkrockerGirl · 14/04/2017 21:24

That's an incredibly long thread about a pre-teen lad taking a slash in the garden Confused
Maybe the loo was occupied and he was desperate?
Your DH needs to get a grip. The fact that he's 'fuming' about this makes him sound like a total twat, tbh.

yorkshapudding · 14/04/2017 21:24

You are blowing this way out of proportion. He needed a wee urgently, so he did one in the garden. He did not expose himself to your DD and there is absolutely nothing to suggest that his actions were sexually motivated what exactly is there to be "furious" about? Obviously, it wasn't a polite or socially "appropriate" thing to do, but 12 year olds will do things from time to time that adults consider impolite and socially inappropriate, whether they have SEN or not.

hellomarshmallow · 14/04/2017 21:24

Massive overreaction. So glad to see that most people think so too.

Deadsouls · 14/04/2017 21:25

I'm another one in the 'boy had wee in garden' camp Confused

I don't think it's a big deal, unless your daughter was distressed or upset? you didn't mention your daughter's response, just your own and your DH. What is your DH fuming about exactly?

I'm struggling to see the issue tbh

Justmuddlingalong · 14/04/2017 21:26

FFS!

dailymailarecunts · 14/04/2017 21:26

I don't know many 12 year old boys who would choose to go to the loo over having a wee in a bush. What exactly do you think was wrong about it?

Deadsouls · 14/04/2017 21:27

It was a wee In a Bush not a shit in your handbag.

Grin PMSL

brasty · 14/04/2017 21:28

I love how everyone is declaring this is not sexual, when they have no idea at all if it was.

DoloresTheRunawayTrain · 14/04/2017 21:29

If it was bratsy then in all likely hood the boy would have done it in front of the child and not dipped in a bush and preserved his privacy.

Floggingmolly · 14/04/2017 21:30

Because she said she didn't see his boy bits ; presumably he wouldn't have turned his back if he'd intended her to?

Deadsouls · 14/04/2017 21:30

brasty

That is why I was asking OP what her daughter's response was? Is her daughter upset for example, or what. DD's response not mentioned. But the detail about DD not seeing his penis was mentioned.

HoldBackTheRain · 14/04/2017 21:31

If he just did a wee in a bush I don't think it's a big deal and I think you're husband is over reacting!

SalemSaberhagen · 14/04/2017 21:31

He probably told her not to tell anyone because he'd been in trouble for weeing in a garden before.

PovertyPain · 14/04/2017 21:32

I'm just wondering, OP, if this young boy didn't have SEN issues, would you be as concerned? This reminds me if being told, as a child, to stay away from certain children/adults as they were 'odd'. I thought we had moved away from this thinking. 🙁

KoalaDownUnder · 14/04/2017 21:32

I love how everyone is declaring this is not sexual, when they have no idea at all if it was.

Why the heck would it be?

The normal default assumption is that weeing is non-sexual. Not the other way around. Hmm

Deadsouls · 14/04/2017 21:32

salem
That was my assumption too, because he knows he's not meant to do it, or at least supposed to go to the loo.

DoloresTheRunawayTrain · 14/04/2017 21:32

I suspect, owing to the tone of the Op that her parents questioned her closely on what bits she did and didn't see.

Mum2jenny · 14/04/2017 21:32

He had a wee in the garden and ......

So what!

CeeceeBloomingdale · 14/04/2017 21:33

Thankfully I only skim read, SO MANY WORDS! No big deal, male child takes a leak 🙄

brasty · 14/04/2017 21:33

Weeing in front of someone can be sexual for some. I have no idea if it was in this case, but no one can say on the basis of what is here whether it was or not.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 14/04/2017 21:33

12 year old has a Jungle wee. Jungle wees are not the crime of the century but generally get a child told off, so the child tells another child not to tell.

I'm failing to see where the 'delicate issue' is?

user1471558436 · 14/04/2017 21:34

He just needed a wee. He's quite immature and has got poor impulse control by the sounds of it and so he just did it in the nearest bush. Your daughter didn't see his bits. You just need to explain to her that it's not ok to wee in people's gardens. If you have to say something to the boy/the mum next time you see her, simply remind him half jokingly that you hope he's not going to be teaching DD to wee in the garden again.

PerspicaciaTick · 14/04/2017 21:34

Has your DH never wee'd in a bush?

I bet he has.

user1471558436 · 14/04/2017 21:35

If you are worried it's sexual then simply ring the mum and ask her to talk to her DS.

Deadsouls · 14/04/2017 21:36

OP - in response to your specific question at the end, I think if you feel you must bring it up with the mother, then don't tip toe around it, just be straight up, 'blah blah blah this happened, DD was present, I'm not particularly happy about it, would prefer it doesn't happen again'
So then you say what you have to say but no drama or blame.

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