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To ask your child to keep quiet

134 replies

LozyLou · 08/04/2017 16:41

Hi I need to vent about my SiL. I don't to want to be accused of drip feeding so will put you in the picture. My partners sister is married with three children although for a good few years now they have been claiming to be separated. However my Dh and and dBil have both suspected for a while now that something isn't quite right. Top and bottom of it is that despite claiming to be separated they still live very much as though they are together. At first I didn't think much of it as it's to be expected most decent parents would want to keep things amicable if only for the sake of their children. Anyway as time has gone on I've seen and heard things that have made me to believe that this isn't your typical mature and friendly separation.

My husband's sister moved out of her rented home some time ago now as she managed to get a house with her local council and the children's dad moved back in with his parents a short drive away. They still live in each other's pockets and he spends the majority of time at her house when he's not working. Child support aside as that's what you'd expect any loving father to provide, he still financially supports her, gives her money on a weekly basis to treat herself not just the children. He works on her house doing home improvements and spends the weekends with her having take always, watching TV, going on nights out etc.

Now I expect to be told that it's none of my business, and you're right it's not. However they are toying with their children's emotions here and I know for a fact they've been asking their children to keep quiet about their set up but kids are kids and they have confided in my children about how things are at home. The most recent being they have gone on holiday abroad together as a family but told no one and yesterday my Dd and niece have been on FaceTime and she's been talking about her holiday telling her she'd had a great time, what she'd been up to etc but she's also slipped up and said that her dad had gone with them and that she wasn't supposed to say anything.

If the benefit system has a loophole that allows couples to live like this and get away it then that's just the way it is. I don't agree with it one bit but there is nothing I can do. What I can't accept is that they are expecting their children to lie for them. What kind of a life is this?. Yes they may have more money living like this than they would have if they claimed as a couple but what decent parent puts money above their own children's peace of mind and happiness. My Dh is going to have a word with his mum but at the end of the day what can she do. His sister is a grown woman and is the most stubborn person so will do what she wants to do. But I can't help feel angry and feel for the kids having to live a lie. AiBu here?

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QuackDuckQuack · 12/04/2017 18:53

The risks of being caught regarding benefit fraud are significant. This story demonstrates that the punishments are significant. I would be concerned about the risk of going to prison and the impact on the whole family.

Birdsgottaf1y · 12/04/2017 18:58

My DD is going away with her ex, because there's no reason not to. Their DD will enjoy them all being together.

She's stayed overnight at his, in a separate bed and been out for meals.

To an outsider it would look like they are still together and committing fraud.

I know a few Women who cannot rely on the Father of their children, split up, try to give it another go, but it isn't working, so are in a limbo situation, but aren't a couple, in the true sense.

Now, with only being able to claim for two children, I don't blame anyone for not coming off benefits, unless they are certain about things.

LilQueenie · 12/04/2017 19:06

so long as she pays her own bills and he pays his its perfectly legal. what is it about this that bothers you.

Atenco · 12/04/2017 19:26

My DD is going away with her ex, because there's no reason not to. Their DD will enjoy them all being together

Yeap, my dd does the same. They don't work as a couple but sometimes they can get on well enough for the sake of their dd. Difference is that my dd is not in the uk and does not claim benefits so she does not have lots of nosey bastards thinking that it is their business.

LozyLou · 12/04/2017 19:51

But have you considered the long term impact on the children. Sure it may seem that mum and dad remaining "friendly" is the best optiom and no one is saying that being at each other's throats is better alternative, but there's friendly and then there's friendly. If you turn around to your kids and announce your separating but then continue to live like you were previously then surely that must be confusing. Another point of mine is after all this time why hasn't my sil or her "ex" found new partners. I'm not saying they have to or that they even should do but it's a little odd. Most separated couples do move on but not these two. I just find it odd.

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LilQueenie · 12/04/2017 20:20

not at all. no different to two mums or two dads. all kids see is two parents who are around unlike those who rarely see the other parent after a split. If they do see that other parent a lot because they sit at house to spend time with them then they are going to find themselves hounded by you anyway. There are many reasons people do not find new partners.

ZeroFuchsGiven · 12/04/2017 21:52

@RJnomore1, This is familiar, I am pretty sure I have read the same thing here before.

In answer to your question op, yes, I think it is totally reasonable for parents to tell their children to keep family matters within the family.

ZeroFuchsGiven · 12/04/2017 21:55

x post. You need to butt out op.

Atenco · 12/04/2017 21:59

"I'm not saying they have to or that they even should do but it's a little odd. Most separated couples do move on but not these two. I just find it odd"

OK, so now it is not about whether they are cheating the benefits system, it's about their sex life. You can move on without finding another partner.

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