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AIBU to be terrified of WW3 killing us all in the UK soon?

159 replies

streetface · 07/04/2017 12:35

AIBU to be frightened that WW3 is about to happen and my children will be obliterated by a nuclear weapon here in the UK?

Or is that unlikely? I'm hoping someone with a bit more understanding of the situation can explain. All I know is the situation has escalated now Trump has bombed Assad's regime and Russia is mighty pissed off. If the West comes under attack I'm guessing the UK will be nuked?
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ProzacAndWinePlease · 07/04/2017 15:23

This must be one of those times when not having kids seems a comfort. I have DNs, and I'd wish them a happy, long future, but no I wouldn't stay up nights worrying about them, I suppose.

Thinking about this whole issue (and allowing my mind to wander into all the what ifs) makes me want to start a little stash of pills I can take in the event of an initial blast not finishing me off, so I can have a quick out anyway. Sort of joking, kinda

rosethyme · 07/04/2017 15:24

Oh how i miss Obama.

herethereandeverywhere · 07/04/2017 15:24

Helsinki Unfortunately that reasoning does not take into account:

  • delusions of invincibility, arrogance, of being untouchable
  • thinking oneself so special/clever that you'll get out of anything
  • impulsive acts regretted later (like people who cannot control violent tempers)
  • those with an unwavering belief in the afterlife such that it matters not when one transfers to it
  • martyrdom for a particular cause

If we were talking about rational, sane, mentally well-balanced individual I'd take comfort. Sadly, we are not. And whilst I'm grateful for the chain of command, take a look at the work of Stanley Milgram. It is well known that people will do terrible things because they are responding to an order, much more so than if they had to make the decision themselves.

rosethyme · 07/04/2017 15:27

My dh always says what's the point in worrying, you'd know nothing about it, it'd be that quick. Well it's the build up to it that terrifies me and also the fear of seeing the missiles zooming across the sky. The whole thought of it terrifys me, that's why i have to convince myself that they just wouldn't do it.

ZilphasHatpin · 07/04/2017 15:29

I'm worried my children won't grow up.

Well what's the point in worrying about that? Who benefits from you worrying about it? If it happens it happens, you'll know nothing about it. Worrying certainly won't prevent it. Don't waste your energy.

EatSpamAmandaLamb · 07/04/2017 15:36

I don't think anyone can quite grasp why an individual worries about the specific things they do worry about.

HotelEuphoria · 07/04/2017 15:37

I am hopeful that the inevitable bullet through Trump's head will be sooner rather than later.

Pollyputhekettleon · 07/04/2017 15:43

HotelEuphoria - be careful what you wish for. That would almost certainly result in civil war in the US and therefore the deaths of many, many more innocent people.

brickinitIam · 07/04/2017 15:47

But working to pay down debts and have a few stocks of food is a good focus and doesn't hurt even if war doesn't come about.

Call me crazy, but It did cross my mind today whether I should be getting a few extra cans in Hmm
I bet the preppers have it covered.

Tobolsk · 07/04/2017 15:51

brickinitIam

DH is a Prepper. I am sure are well stocked here.

herethereandeverywhere · 07/04/2017 15:55

Polly would it?!! Hmm What is your reasoning/evidence for this?

I think it's more likely that he'd just be replaced with a similar brand of nutcase (Pence).

RachelRagged · 07/04/2017 15:55

This stiff upper lip stuff is a crock of shit. That harks back to a time when people beat their children without anyone blinking an eyelid, families were sending their lads off to war every decade, educational and living standards were lower and the world was a smaller place. We live in a different world now, stiff upper lip Britain is long gone. Long, long gone and in many ways it's a good thing.

Well Said .
100% agree.

BabychamSocialist · 07/04/2017 15:57

If it's any help, it will never happen via nuclear weapons.

That's what mutually assured destruction is all about - the thought that everyone else has nuclear weapons too, and as soon as you press the button, everyone else will launch too and we'll all be obliterated. Even Kim Jong-un isn't stupid enough to do that. He's building them, but it's more of a dick measuring contest than anything.

If we ever had any intention of using nuclear weapons, then Polaris would've worked straight away, but it didn't. Trident took years to get working too. In the words of Yes Minister, "Usually when we get new weapons, the warheads don't fit the ends of the rockets" Grin

HelsinkiLights · 07/04/2017 16:02

Here I respect your opinion but I think we'll have to agree to disagree
Although I do agree with your point most people will do abhorrent things under orders e.g. the ordinary soldier under the Nazi regime plus the wanting to be in "the group' mentality I order to be 'liked, admired & not left out not forgetting fear of retribution.'
However I don't agree that that the 'leader of the pack' no 1 would kill everyone all the planet for various reasons.

HelsinkiLights · 07/04/2017 16:03

On the planet not all the planet.

Pollyputhekettleon · 07/04/2017 16:05

herethere - You're aware no doubt that the US has a strong anti-government subculture - gun-owning, militias, army veterans, Obamas black helicopter/FEMA camps conspiracy theorists, state-level independence movements, southern secessionists etc. Many of those support/ed Trump. How do you think they would feel if someone assassinates him? Do you think they'll respond by talking to their therapists about their resulting anger issues?

Yes Pence would of course step in. Pence was after all chosen to be impeachment insurance since Democrats would hate him even more than Trump. But it's not an either/or result. Pence plus violence is the most likely outcome given the current state of US political polarization and gun culture.

SunnyLikeThursday · 07/04/2017 16:06

I worry a bit about this, but I know that the indigestion that I give myself by worrying it causing me much more trouble than the miniscule risk of nuclear war, so I try to be cool about it. I'm not at all cool about it though

herethereandeverywhere · 07/04/2017 16:11

I don't see it as cause and effect like that Polly. So long as the rhetoric that their team is still in control remains (and it would be just that) I can't see anything more than isolated pockets of shooting as happens every day in the US when someone gets pissed off.

Pollyputhekettleon · 07/04/2017 16:25

You think that the reaction of Trump supporters to his assassination could be managed by rhetoric to the effect that 'their team' (not sure who would be defining that...) is still in control? I listen to them very carefully when I come across them and I'm quite sure that the general response to that suggestion would be unprintable. If you were to put yourself in their shoes for a moment you can understand why.

SuffolkBumkin · 07/04/2017 16:52

I can see this nuclear beauty from my house! I'm royally screwed Grin

AIBU to be terrified of WW3 killing us all in the UK soon?
Abraiid2 · 07/04/2017 16:55

WWIII would have to include actors who were willing to expand the theatre to the fringes of Western Euro

If Russian attacked the US we are bound by NATO to defend them, so we would be involved anyway.

KatoPotato · 07/04/2017 17:20

Worrying about 'stuff' doesn't stop 'stuff'happening.

I apply this to daily life.

user1486924355 · 07/04/2017 17:44

Werkzallhourz - bloody hell Werkz, that post was fantastic. It was everything I was thinking but unlike you I do not have the ability to articulate what I was thinking. I do not think for one moment that Assad was responsible for the gas attack.

rosethyme · 07/04/2017 17:56

suffolk is that an early warning station?

Tobolsk · 07/04/2017 18:21

SuffolkBumkin

Wow at least you know where your electricity comes from!

I won't out you but that place is the one with a Z in the name

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