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AIBU to be terrified of WW3 killing us all in the UK soon?

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streetface · 07/04/2017 12:35

AIBU to be frightened that WW3 is about to happen and my children will be obliterated by a nuclear weapon here in the UK?

Or is that unlikely? I'm hoping someone with a bit more understanding of the situation can explain. All I know is the situation has escalated now Trump has bombed Assad's regime and Russia is mighty pissed off. If the West comes under attack I'm guessing the UK will be nuked?
Bookma

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Megatherium · 07/04/2017 14:26

I'm fatalist about these things - I reckon if someone is going to drop a nuclear bomb on me there's not much I can do about it and I probably won't know anything about it, so there's not much point worrying. In fact I've always felt I'd rather not survive the nuclear Armageddon as it sounds like life wouldn't particularly be worth living anyway.

BlueBlueElectricBlue · 07/04/2017 14:26

Werkz - I wonder if it's just a human thing. Particularly as a civilian whose decisions up till now have meant little in terms of direct life loss.

So you...

  1. Get elected
  2. Have frightening power placed at your disposal
  3. Recognise your decisions could equal large losses of human life
  4. Choose to defer to decision making of your 'expert' military leaders (presumably more inclined/accustomed to making those hawkish choices.
  5. Mentally wash hands of decision and internally decide it's not on your conscience in the same way
BlueBlueElectricBlue · 07/04/2017 14:26
  1. Sleep at night
Ginkypig · 07/04/2017 14:27

It's like any life altering scenario,

the idea of is so horrific that thinking about it in the absence of having been through it you can't believe that you'd be able to handle it but in the situation you either find the strength to deal with it and come out the other side of it or you don't it's as simple as that. You may be forever changed by the event either way but it's still you carry on or you don't.

In this situation either you die straight out or you don't and you will deal with whatever the world looks like after, there is no way to change it so there's no point in ruining your life worrying (I'm not saying you should be deliberately ignorant either obviously)

Iris65 · 07/04/2017 14:30

Me and my DP have no intention of trying to survive in a post apocalyptic world. If I can help others (I have medical knowledge and am very practical) I will but once it becomes overwhelming (radiation sickness/starvation/suffering) we have plans to end it.
Watched too many movies, read too many books to consider anything else.

EatSpamAmandaLamb · 07/04/2017 14:32

Yes we have plans for ending it all should something happen Iris65.

EffinElle · 07/04/2017 14:37

I hear you op. Everything feels very uncertain at the moment and that uncertainty drives anxiety.

Megatherium · 07/04/2017 14:37

Mind you, I'd say the same about the British Foreign Office. It seems to turn Foreign Minsters into absolute loons.

And it doesn't help when the current incumbent is a loon to start off with.

Tobolsk · 07/04/2017 14:38

We have plans to survive it, we live remotely away from fall out areas. We have food water and the shelter we need.

This is a great website for those who want to know if they are safe or not

www.nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/

herethereandeverywhere · 07/04/2017 14:39

Well a few days ago I was in a taxi in Germany, being driven by an Afghani political asylum seeker. Conversation started nicely enough, I was so pleased he and his family were safe, sad his parents were still in Afghanistan, impressed by his ability to learn several languages quickly and his work ethic, a sort of 'we welcome you' kind of vibe. He had worked as an interpreter for Uk and US troops fro a while. He then launched into a monologue about the British causing all the ills of Afghanistan over the last 200 years. How nowadays they are the ones making the suicide vests for ISIS, how the Americans were behind 9/11. I'm not in a position to argue about the historical stuff, I know the Empire did terrible things, even in countries it did not enslave/rule. However...

As we're hurtling down the autobahn at God-knows miles-per hour he looks at me via the rear view mirror and said:
World War 3 will come soon. The British and Americans lit a fire and eventually it will catch their clothes.

I momentarily thought he might steer into the central reservation but when he didn't I just counted the seconds until the end of the journey (it was so disturbing I haven't spoken about it in real life....) Sad

So, I'm normally 'meh' about these sorts of scares but that rattled me and when I woke to news of the airstrikes my mind went straight back to those eyes and that speech....

EatSpamAmandaLamb · 07/04/2017 14:40

Christ on a bike herethere did you contact the police?

NotStoppedAllDay · 07/04/2017 14:44

I'm more worried about these random street attacks

Another breaking news now....Stockholm. Truck drove into pedestrians Sad

AcrossthePond55 · 07/04/2017 14:44

Remember OP, that mothers have had this same worry since time immemorial in one form or another.

My great-grandmother worried about her children (WWI)
My grandmother worried about her children (WWII)
My mother worried about us (Cold War, Cuban Missile Crisis)
I worried about my children (Cold War, 9/11)
My son is doubtful of even having children (current world situations)

Whether it will happen or not is not something we can directly control. For the good of humanity in general we need to be politically involved. For the good of our own children, we need to raise them to love themselves and others, show them the world is basically a good place full of love and wonders, and keep from imparting our fears to them.

OfaFrenchmind2 · 07/04/2017 14:45

herethere dangerous asshole.
I get sick of this constant rewriting of history so that local populations can totally absolve themselves from any responsibility in their shit situation.

rosethyme · 07/04/2017 14:46

Well i like to console myself with thought that Trump and Putin would not like to live in a post apocalyptic world either. I know they'd have their bunkers but eventually they'd want to come out and they'd be no world to come out to. I wonder if we would have have 2 world wars if the leaders in charge knew they'd have their country annihilated by going to war. It's got to be different when their arses are on the line, itms.

herethereandeverywhere · 07/04/2017 14:49

eatspam er, no. He know where I live so I didn't want to follow that course of action...

It was the switch from civilised to menacing in the blink of an eye....

MongerTruffle · 07/04/2017 14:50

And as we are now out of the EU

No, we're not.

rosethyme · 07/04/2017 14:53

herethereandeverwhere what a ray of sunshine, Shock wonder how many people he manages to terrify in a day.

2catsandadog · 07/04/2017 15:01

I don't think we are going to be nuked... Yet. I would like to know though, so I know whether or not to do the ironing. Seems a waste of effort if we are going to be obliterated...

Grin
TrollMummy · 07/04/2017 15:04

Interesting that the Germans were advised to stockpile food and water in case of emergency last yearHmm

Pollyputhekettleon · 07/04/2017 15:04

Nothing he said was illegal EatSpam.

His views are throughout the non-western world, particularly the Islamic world. Conspiracy theories about how the Brits/US/Jews/Mossad/CIA are behind all terrorist attacks and basically everything bad in the world are widespread. It's a victimhood narrative that has been fed by westerners who feel guilty about imperialism.

31% of British muslims think the US was behind 9/11. Only 1 in 25 believe it was al Qaeda.

39% of Afghans say that suicide attacks against civilians in defence of Islam can sometimes be justified.

www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-religion-and-politics/

www.pewglobal.org/2011/07/21/muslim-western-tensions-persist/

www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/02/uk-muslims-show-worrying-belief-in-conspiracy-theories-claims-thinktank

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · 07/04/2017 15:06

Growing up in the 80s we thought we were going to be victims of a nuclear war.

This kind of fear is nothing new - ultimately there is nothing you can do to actually stop anything happening though

rosethyme · 07/04/2017 15:10

I can imagine the next four years are going to be full of scares like this with Trump in charge.

EatSpamAmandaLamb · 07/04/2017 15:12

Sorry herethere assumed you were there visiting. In your case I understand not reporting.

HelsinkiLights · 07/04/2017 15:15

The top of the list for all forms of life is survival & reproduction of the next generation, repeat again & again.
So although the world we live is going a bit loopy at times (I sometimes wonder if in 2016 we flipped into a parallel universe or something.)
I very much doubt anyone would want to start a nuclear war as we'd all eventually end up dead & Earth would be destroyed. That very much defeats the inate no1 want of all life forms.
Luckily there is also a chain of command in launching a nuclear weapon, you can't just press a button in a hissy fit.
People might say ok but what about the raving lunacy of Daesh (IS or the Idiot Squad as they are known amongst friends ,& family) or North Korea?
I really don't think Abu-Bakr-Al- Bhagadi or Kim Jong Un want to be dead. As another poster pointed out above that you can't spend all your billions or have complete adulation once you are dead.

Though it does completely piss me with all this male posturing of certain world leaders acting little boys throwing their toys out the pram because they want their own way & everyone to do as they say. All it's done is make the world feel unstable & remind people of their fears during the Cold War & the early 8Os.
I really would like to get Al-Baghadi, Kim, Trump, Putin, Assad etc & bash their heads together or even better get Merkel, May, Sturgeon, Hillary, The Pope & the Dali Llama to give them the mother of all telling offs, a good slap & ground them for the rest of their pathetic lives.

This time last year the world felt a much safer & more stable place.