To cause a massive scene in Sainsbury's car park

[momma1701]

Earlier today I went to Sainsbury's with both my DD's (7&1) I was just about about to pull in to the last mother and baby space when someone cuts me up to park there, ok annoying as fuck but whatever.
I find another non baby space which is a very tight squeeze with my car (it's quite big) not to mention the whole faf off youngest DD and her car seat palava, so we've finally got out just about and set out to go in store, this is when I notice the guy who cuts me up is on his own, not only that I recognise he's the same guy who done this to me last week!
So I flipped out!
I asked him where his kids were and does he think it's acceptable to be able bodied (I know this now I've recognised him as I actually went to school with him and he lives near me) and watch someone else struggle whilst he doesn't actually need the space.
So what I got back was him shouting to me 'you don't have to have kids to park here' and 'I'll park where the fuck I want'
By this time my oldest DD was very upset with our shouting and his swearing so I started to walk away, he proceeded to shout abuse behind me and it was all just very embarrassing really!
All in all I'm glad I called him out in front of lots of tutting and clapping people but I wish I hadn't upset my DD, I just hate disrespectful people! And I went in and reported him

Thank you, MN.

There you go Jason. You manage. My post was about the very many P&C parking threads on here. It is often stated it's easier to park the far side of the car park. Then come the "That's not possible. I'm not putting my child at risk"... coupled with "What if it's raining?" Unbelievable!!

Anyone who genuinely drives a truck (like me, cause you can't pull a horsebox with a fiat 500, even if mumsnet disapproves) is fully experienced in how difficult they are to park and really shouldn't be phased by a parking dilemma. They're massive and have the turning circle of an ocean liner so manoeuvring them round retail park car parks can be tricky. It's not just the width of them, the length can make normal car parking spaces difficult. I can't Park mine at my gp's cause not only would I block everyone else from moving safely but I'd never get it out if someone parked too close. They're just not a parking friendly car, but that's why they're not sold as family and school run cars. What do you do? You park in an empty bit of the car park and walk. Op your oldest child is 7, you're at least six years too far in to parenting for hissy fits about p&c spaces. If you genuinely drive a truck then you're made of sterner stuff than the p&c space snowflakes. Your behaviour was unnecessary.

You refuse to accept there may have been something wrong with this man.
'He's lazy.'
We park in the p&c.
Because i have disabilities. When mine are so bad it's painful to walk.
You wouldn't know it look at me.
When i had fb a lot of my 'friends' woukdn't have known, neither would people living near me!
You don't want to hear Anything accept 'oh op you are so right, what a nasty man'.
You don't come across here very well at all.
I'd have been applauding too, but not for you.
I've been shouted at by people 'standing up for themselves' when i've been on public transport for not sitting in the right seats, as im able bodied (i'm not) it's not nice.
Don't assume anything.
One day you may be on this side of the fence.

Oh and people really saying that he may come to the op's house? Really
Come on they had a screaming match doesn't make him a pyscho.

I agree with you on that Penny. You do manage. Just like you manage all the seemingly impossible physical and mental contortions little ones put you through daily! 🙃

If my kids grow up accepting people will just barge past them and treat them like shit I haven't done my job properly! You don't get anywhere in life being a walk over and speaking out is definitely not the worst thing in life they could do!

So they should just accept that their own mother treats them like shit and upsets them by having shouting matches in car parks? There is a long way between being a walk over and being the kind of loon that causes fights in public, and speaking out does not mean causing massive scenes.

Ok I have a couple of questions.

The guy who cut you up, you say you only recognised when you were out of your own car and going into the store. You realised then that the same guy had done it the week before.

Later you said I've also seen him park in them (parent and child spaces) numerous other times

But how would you have recognised him those multiple (numerous) other times, parking in a parent and child space, if you didn't recognise him until you were walking into the store on that occasion. It would seem to me that if you kept noticing the same guy parking in a P&C space (and I can't imagine how small the place where you live is to see this happening more than once really) you would recognise his car immediately (that bloody white Mazda again!). Odd??

Second question - the parking attendant - he would not be able to give a ticket unless he had actually seen him leave the car with no child. And even then it would be more likely he would warn him. But why would you not have reported him the "numerous" other times you had seen him park there? Was it just for revenge?

Thirdly, you feel you gave your child a good lesson in not being walked over. But in fact you said she was very upset. And in fact the outcome was the same: you still had to park in another space than the one you had wanted to. So that didn't work.

Last question - bearing in mind the upset it caused your daughter and the fact the outcome wasn't changed, would you choose to allow this man to trigger the same behaviour from you again (notwithstanding the applause and cheers from the other shoppers?)

Another question - you said Sainsbury's gave him the ticket. But they don't give tickets -it would be the parking attendant that might. So did you go into Sainsbury's and tell them and they went out to speak to the parking attendant or did you in fact speak to the parking attendant yourself. Or did that bit not happen.

I expect to see this thread in the Daily Fail any time soon....

OP you still don't accept, do you, that you have no right to a P&C parking slot.

It's a bonus, not a right.

Most sensible people would know this. They might be a bit peeved that someone with no children had taken the last parking space, albeit a P&C space, but they would not create a scene. If they were that bothered they would wait in the car until such a space became available. Or use a normal space.

If you daughter is being brought up to witness over-reactions and public displays of anger, you are not teaching her life lessons.

I don't believe the stuff about the ticket- since when were people given fines for using a P&C space when they don't have a child?

If this is true, I challenge you to name the car park, show us a link on google maps, or photo the sign showing there are fines.

I do not treat my kids like shit, yes I have a big car, love I've said it's for work purposes I also pay personal mileage and tax so I don't have to have a separate car which I couldn't afford,
My job has nothing at all do do with this post and I'd rather not disclose though as you'd probably all jump on me lying about that too, that's how petty this thread actually is, let's claim she's lying about everything.
And the fact I have a 1 year old AND a seven year old is the argument here I wouldn't park in a P&C bay with just my 7 year old as I simply don't need it she's able as am I.
I can park my truck over a normal bay just about but I couldn't park it over a normal bay (one car covering the line) when trying to open the doors and get my youngest out I need more room this is a fact!
I don't go to supermarkets that don't have the P&C because I just simple can't fit with my shopping and kids so when I do go out and chose a specific car park and store because of these bays I would hope I could get one if not I would usually just cancel the whole situation, yesterday I didn't I chose to attempt an awkward parking spot whilst being watched by someone who had already pissed me off by cutting me up, he preceded to watch me struggle out of my car, and FYI the spaces aren't actually that close to the store, like the disability ones, as stated he said he chose to park in one so his car wouldn't get scratched

So ha parked before you, you took ages to get out and for some unknown reason he stood and watched you, waiting for you to harangue him? Why would he do that, just stand there for no good reason?
Come off it OP, you keep digging that hard you're going to come out of the other side!

???

No he was sat in his car watching actually and walked past as I was getting out my car.
Why the fuck would I want to post everything where I live!

I told Sainsbury's customer services and they radioed the attendant that has a little cabin at the end of the car park

I just can't believe this is real....
So you have a car that you can't park in normal spaces so you have to go to specific supermarket's only?
That must make trips out very limiting..
And then if you get there and there are no free spaces you cancel your whole shopping trip?! Seriously??? What do you do if you need something desperately?
I know plenty of people with trucks who have no issues with parking in normal spaces, I think you need to re-evaluate what you drive!!!

And a crowd formed as well. How entertaining you must have been OP.

Have you apologised properly to your child?

How did a crowd form when you only spoke to him quietly and reasonably?

Surely you can see how getting yourself into a position whereby you can only park in a p and c space is not only daft but rather limiting?

Maybe try online shopping- much less hassle. :)

I still can't quite believe the ticketing story. Do please show us a photo of said car park and the displayed penalty notice showing a fine for anyone with the audacity to park in the wrong space.

What does the ticket do? Is it a fine? How much?

I can park my truck over a normal bay just about but I couldn't park it over a normal bay (one car covering the line) when trying to open the doors and get my youngest out I need more room this is a fact!

Sorry but that is your issue not anyone else's.

You say your car is for work, which is fine but if you have a big car you have to accept the inconvenience that it brings.

That is a fact!

And if you can't park your car with your 1 year old in then how do you manage without?

YBVVU

Aside from him cutting you up (which is admittedly rude), you have no idea of his situation. P&C spaces are often used as disability overflow.

Are you his doctor? Going to school with someone doens't mean you know the ins and outs of their ableness. What if he has an invisible disability that he didn't want to share with an aggressive woman shouting in a shop?

If this is making you kick off and embarrass yourself in front of your children, I think you really need to work on some more anger management or control techniques.