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to wonder why the fuss about Easter and the national trust?

295 replies

Believeitornot · 04/04/2017 09:52

Theresa May has been quoted as being "furious" about the national trust removing easter from their egg hunts. Because she's the daughter of a vicar and a NT member Hmm

Now I had a look at the national trust poster and it clearly says Easter in big letters. They've just called the activities "egg hunts" but it's very clear it's happening at Easter.

AIBU to think she's massively over reacting over a non issue and might well be reminded that Easter was originally a pagan festival

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Orlantina · 06/04/2017 16:30

I bet Cadbury will do this next year - it's a great way to get publicity for their brand.

The C of E did it last year.
And this year.

Do they have shares in Kraft?

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/04/2017 16:33

The NT's own spokesperson made it clear that Cadbury were behind the decision to take Easter out of the cadbury stuff. That's how I worked it out!

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 06/04/2017 16:34

You've clearly never worked in corporate sponsorship. The NT would have been kept abreast of this during the campaign development. They knew.

Orlantina · 06/04/2017 16:36

Next year, other businesses will be jumping on this to get outrage generated by Theresa May and the Daily Mail and Farage.

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/04/2017 16:44

they might've known but it wasn't ultimately their fault, the primary fault lies with Cadbury even if NT signed off on it.I don't care that NT knew about it, the campaign direction is Cadburys.

Yes, i don't think i ever claimed to work in corporate sponsorship but it was obvious that the NT would've seen the publicity materials.

merrymouse · 06/04/2017 16:48

Cadbury's have been selling chocolate eggs for decades without the word Easter.

It's not as though every other egg is branded with Easter. I have been to many organised egg hunts (they have risen in popularity recently) but they are rarely linked to the Easter story. I know that people talk about the egg symbolising the stone being rolled away, but it's just as likely that they are linked to older celebrations of Spring. Why does it matter that Easter is on the posters but not linked to Cadbury's and eggs? I can equally imagine people being offended by Cadbury's.

How many Easter sermons have started with the words

"Well children, I'm sure you all enjoyed your chocolate eggs this morning, but of course the real story of Easter is..."

Well now apparently it is actually all about the eggs. Confused

merrymouse · 06/04/2017 16:49

I can equally imagine people being offended by Cadbury's commercialising Easter

merrymouse · 06/04/2017 16:50

but it was obvious that the NT would've seen the publicity materials.

Which had the word Easter in great big letters.

Orlantina · 06/04/2017 16:51

Which had the word Easter in great big letters

Grin
Orlantina · 06/04/2017 16:53

the primary fault lies with Cadbury even if NT signed off on

If you think there is a 'fault' here?

Easter was definitely mentioned. It is Easter after all. By having an egg hunt, then people are being reminded that it's Easter. You can hardly forget it. There's Easter eggs everywhere.

Haven't seen Jesus mentioned much though

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/04/2017 16:53

obviously not all of them...that's facetious, as I expect was intended!

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 06/04/2017 16:55

hey might've known but it wasn't ultimately their fault, the primary fault lies with Cadbury even if NT signed off on it

I fail to see what 'fault' there is in any case. Such a bizarre little fuss over absolutely nothing.

Easter for Christians is about church services not chocolate eggs!

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/04/2017 16:57

good for you that you hold these opinions...I happen to dislike the commercialization of a holiday - what the other JC said, really. First thing I've ever liked that Corbyn's said.

NoLotteryWinYet · 06/04/2017 16:59

What about Easter traditions being 'Easter' traditions and not Cabury traditions?

Orlantina · 06/04/2017 17:01

I happen to dislike the commercialization of a holiday

That ship sailed a long time ago....

Orlantina · 06/04/2017 17:04

What about Easter traditions being 'Easter' traditions and not Cabury traditions

Technically, it's not an Easter egg hunt anyway. It's a hunt for mini eggs at Easter. An Easter egg is - as far as I am aware - a chocolate egg in a mould with a hollow interior? Not a mini egg.

So it's not an Easter egg hunt - and I bet people would be complaining if they were told it was an Easter egg hunt - and were in fact hunting mini eggs. Or Cadbury mini eggs.

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 06/04/2017 17:04

What about Easter traditions being 'Easter' traditions and not Cabury traditions?

So are you outraged by the general presence of Easter eggs in our shops? Conduct your Easter as you see fit and let other people go on a Cadbury egg hunt if they fancy.

squishysquirmy · 06/04/2017 17:47

When I've been on a NT egg hunt in the past Orlantine, it was a proper, hollow Dairy Milk Easter egg - not mini eggs Shock
You go round the property looking for themed clues on laminated card to fill in an answer sheet, which when complete you hand in to receive a prize. The one I went on last year had a Beatrix Potter theme, because it was in the Lake District.

Agree with everything else you've said though!

squishysquirmy · 06/04/2017 17:52

If you dislike the commercialisation of a holiday, surely you would dislike the whole principle of chocolate eggs/rabbits/ducks being sold for profit in the shops in the name of a religious festival? I which case why single out this incident in particular?
At least with the Cadbury egg hunt a charity was getting a slice of the action too.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 07/04/2017 08:46

I know that people talk about the egg symbolising the stone being rolled away, but it's just as likely that they are linked to older celebrations of Spring.

We used to have an egg painting competition in our church every year when I was young. Apart from the fact I was dragged along for years and never won anything. It's a fix I tell you! Grin

The actual symbolism comes as we all know, to represent new life, which was originally started by the pagans, to celebrate springtime. If my memory serves me right. It was them who started painting eggs first. Obviously the church can't say 'well we nicked the idea' so the stone rolling away makes sense to them instead. But it's a little like at Christmas time. Yule logs and Christmas trees aren't really christian traditions at all. They're pagan ones that have been lumped in with the rest.
Then someone came up with the idea of commercialisation at these times and thought chocolate eggs would be a good idea. I'm always a bit Confused at people thinking our christian faith is being slowly eaten away at, (pardon the pun), yet at specific times of the year, they are always adhered to, you can't move for Easter Eggs and Hot cross buns at the moment. At Christmas time you wont be able to move for all the Christmas food.

As problems go, I think the PM has/should have more to worry about than a bloody word on chocolate packaging.

AlIsPoison · 07/04/2017 10:00

Does the school begin with 'S'?

If it does, it's local to me and I'm not surprised by the attitude of the Head. I loathe his patronising 'Welly Wednesday' reference on the homepage.

Orlantina · 07/04/2017 10:21

Mark Steel on it

www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-easter-cadburys-jihadis-muslims-religion-christian-country-infidels-a7670521.html

""The outrage is also welcome, because usually it’s the left and liberals that get accused of worrying all day about people being offended, so it’s handy to share the offence out.

There are so many columnists who complain you can’t say anything these days without upsetting some minority, and they all seem to have changed their mind, and decided it’s healthy to be offended.""

Epipgab · 07/04/2017 11:42

In most other European languages, they don't use the world Easter for the Christian celebration. Instead their words come from the Greek "Pascha", which comes from pesach, the Hebrew word for Passover. So the festival does have its own roots apart from later being combined with existing pagan ideas when the church spread.

donadumaurier · 07/04/2017 11:50

^ in my church, even when speaking English the clergy use "Passover," not Easter. It sucks that Pascha falls on the same day this year, having a separate day at Christmas strips away all the commercialness of it all.

NoLotteryWinYet · 07/04/2017 14:50

you're setting up an extreme saying that I can't object to overt heavy footed Cadbury branding, and should object to any chocolate egg eating. Plenty of people agree, including a fair section of politicians it seems!