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To think that Britain should take a tougher line on certain children's names?

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floraeasy · 31/03/2017 21:08

I name this baby... Superman. And another one... Gazza.

Oh, and let’s call this little mite... Gandalf.

And why not throw in Arsenal for good measure!

All the above are British children’s real first names – and they have all been given official blessing by our liberal authorities.

In Britain, all names, however ridiculous, are up for grabs. Hence celebrities can bestow their children with the likes of Apple, Harper Seven, Zowie and Fifi Trixibelle.

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The General Register Office says there are no restrictions on parents - except for exceptional cases, such as a name which could be deemed offensive, when an official could refuse to register it.

But such unusual names could blight a child’s future, according to Professor Helen Petrie, from the University of York, who has studied the psychological effects of having an unusual name.

“I found that people with unusual names had a really hard time, particularly when they were children,” she said.

They described getting teased and how traumatic it could be - because all children want to fit in. But when they became adults, they are often glad that they have something to help them stand out from the crowd.

“People with very common names sometimes feel that they aren’t unique enough. So I think there’s a happy medium to be struck.”

So isn’t it time we took a leaf out of baby naming books from other countries and make such monikers illegal?

Here are some of the worst offenders that have been officially banned in their own countries, but that any Tombola, Dickdastardly or Haribo could call their babies in Britain.

• Lucifer, V8, Christ and Messiah are among the baby names rejected by New Zealand’s department of internal affairs. Disappointed parents wishing to christen their offspring with numbers (89), letters (J, I, T) and punctuation marks (*) were also given short shrift.

• Fish and Chips (twins), Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit also got the kybosh, though the New Zealand judges did allow Number 16 Bus Shelter and Violence.

• But the top of the NZ banned list must surely be Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

• In Sweden, there is a law preventing parents from naming their children Metallica and Elvis. But in a parental fightback, a couple attempted to name their child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Yes, it’s spelled correctly. We’ve double-checked! And apparently, it’s pronounced “Albin”, though we’re not sure how.

• In Italy, judges prevented a couple calling their kid Venerdi aka Friday. They reckoned the name - taken from Robinson Crusoe - would expose the boy to “mockery”.

• Over in Norway, a woman was thrown in jail for two days for giving her child the unapproved name Gesher aka Bridge.

• On the other side of the world, the Malaysian government banned the name Chow Tow. It sounds harmless enough, until you realise the translation is Smelly Head!

• But in China, a family wanted to keep their baby’s name short and sweet, by simply calling it @. Perfect for Twitter, we’d have thought.

• In Germany, the names Stompie, Woodstock and Grammophon have been turned down, whereas the similarly strange Speedy, Lafayette and Jazz were allowed.

• In New Zealand, a whopping 77 names have been banned. They include Lucifer, Mafia No Fear, 4Real, 2nd, 3rd or 5th and ‘.’ (or full stop!).

• But surely top of the pile (excuse the pun) of banned baby names is this from Denmark: Anus. Apparently, the judges thought the baby’s parents were trying to make an a**e of their offpring!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/08/banned-the-world-s-most-ridiculous-baby-names_n_7379492.html

OP posts:
Oliversmumsarmy · 02/04/2017 17:12

The registrar attempted to stop me giving ds one of the middle names I wanted. He had to check. As he thought it was illegal. It is my middle name and dds middle name.

reuset · 02/04/2017 17:15

Why are so many on mumsnet so determined to allow their child no individual identity at all? Starting from the very beginning with an acceptable, identikit top 10 name. I can't think of anything worse!

Is their individualism bound up with their name somehow? Wink

'Why fit in when you were born to stand out?'

You stand out, one would hope, for your achievements, talents and the person you are, not because you have an 'unusual' name.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 02/04/2017 17:18

I remember DM once saying that children should be named after saints not vegetation. Her patron saint was the one associated with high explosive, which was spot on.

MortalEnemy · 02/04/2017 17:32

Well, sticking to saints gives you a fair bit of leeway, including
Agapius, Gobnata, Narcissus, Nennoc, Radegund, Rainbold, Ruak, Madalberta, Oncho, Odo, Leo Satsuma, Thais, Theofrid, Yrieix, and Zeno.

All actual saints from a Catholic dictionary of saints.

BabychamSocialist · 02/04/2017 18:17

My mum always said you can't go wrong naming your kids after Royalty or Nobility. Suppose she's right in a way - names like Anne, Henry and Victoria aren't going to go out of fashion really, if that's what you're worried about.

My mum was over the moon when our boys had the names of a King and a Pope. She was less enthused about my niece having Louise as a middle name until Prince Edward named his daughter that, so it's fine now!

user1480459555 · 02/04/2017 19:10

I don't like some of the silly names given to children. Also not keen on hyphenated christian names like Molly-Mae.

In the 1950's my parents wanted to call me Larraine (after an actress) and were not allowed to

BoboChic · 02/04/2017 20:30

People need saving from their own (and their parents') terrible taste and lack of education...

maddiemookins16mum · 02/04/2017 20:31

Which of these children will become Doctors, Lawyers or Teachers.

Jayden Earl, Roobenn, Aliysha Mae, Tia-Poppy, Robyna-Joy and Chariteey

Edward, Katherine, Alec, Donald and Alexandra

I think I know.

ItchyFoot · 02/04/2017 20:47

I'm not a fan of Alysha-Mae and Tia-Poppy but why on earth would that actually stop them from becoming doctors!? You don't call a doctor by their first name anyway and there are lots of silly surnames. I'm sure there are Dr Shufflebottoms out there for example.

Cellardoor23 · 02/04/2017 20:53

I love the name Edward.

I also love the name Alasdair. It seems underused for a baby these days and a classic name imo. I don't think it's even in the top 100.

Blueflowers2011 · 02/04/2017 21:10

Sorry, would much rather a name that is really individual over Edward and Alasdair, so old fashioned to me.

maddiemookins16mum · 02/04/2017 21:13

Because the reality is that there are families who call their children certain names and those families with children called Katherine Mary are more likely to go to uni than those called Jayden Roscoe-boy.
It's not rocket salad.

Jellyhanging555 · 02/04/2017 21:14

My grandma had 2 sons ( well 5 sons and 3 daughters) but she called her two sons- eldest and youngest- Henry! Like she had ran out of names by the time she got to her 8th kid and just went back to the start! I find that the most weird thing in the world! But, over 100 years ago- maybe that's what you did!

reuset · 02/04/2017 21:14

It's not rocket salad

Grin
littleshirleybeans · 02/04/2017 21:16

I'm fairly certain that Pocahontas does exist. I knew a visiting teacher who was in her school. No reason to make it up.
Along with Autumn Breeze.
And Faye Govan, who moved to the area from down south.
(Which is funny if you're Scottish/Glaswegian!)

reuset · 02/04/2017 21:23

I'm fairly certain that Pocahontas does exist. I knew a visiting teacher who was in her school. No reason to make it up.

How old would she be? Up to, and including, 2005 the name Pocahontas has actually been used and registered twice, but only as a middle name.

oldbirdy · 02/04/2017 21:26

When I was a kid, back in the 70s, we knew two families whose kids had really really unusual names. Everyone else was called Karen, Rachel, Tracey, Claire, Jennifer and the boys were Stephen, Paul, Andrew, Justin. The two outlandish families' names? One Amelia and Fraser, the other Jacob and Chloe. Ironically 40 years later those girls' names have both been number 1 and the boys' names way more common than the "common" names of our youth. I've worked in education 20 years and taught 2 Stephens. Haven't come across a Paul or Andrew born after about 1985.....

reuset · 02/04/2017 21:26

There's a Rapunzel Hannah registered actually. I wonder if she has very long hair Grin

I knew of a Cinderella, elderly lady. I'm certain that was her real name. I bet there's a few of those registered. It has some palatable shortenings.

Cellardoor23 · 02/04/2017 21:29

Is there such thing as an individual name though? I'm just curious. Unless it's completely made up. I used to think the name Storm was pretty individual until I met two. Grin

MongerTruffle · 02/04/2017 21:33

In Germany you're not allowed to give "boy" names to girls and "girl" names to boys.

maddiemookins16mum · 02/04/2017 21:40

I have a nephew called Andrew born 97. He was the only one in his class. But he was in England. I'm sure a primary in Greenock may be different.

PunkrockerGirl · 02/04/2017 21:40

maddie
You're right - the most sensible post on this thread so far.
Itchy you really don't see the correlation between 'silly' names and the parents' lack of education? Confused
My guilty pleasure is the baby names topic on here, it's hilarious or it would be if people were joking

reuset · 02/04/2017 21:43

Yes, there are quite a few people named Cinderella first name, quite a few meaning more than 20 anyway!

And there's actually a girl named Snow White. First name Snow, surname White, no middle name! I have a sneaking admiration for that one.

I have too much time on my hands tonight, or so you'd think Grin

BabychamSocialist · 02/04/2017 22:10

maddiemookins16mum

I hope you don't pass on your snobbery to your kids.

Personally, I used to have a doctor who had the first name of 'Gaylord' - he was still a bloody brilliant doctor and nobody knew his first name unless they asked. He was "Gay" to his friends and colleagues, and "Dr. XXXX" to everyone else.

Personally, I can't say I'm bothered by the name of a lawyer or doctor. I see no reason why somebody's name has an impact on their life. It really, really doesn't. After all, has it hampered Leonardo DiCaprio at all in that he sounds like an Italian renaissance painter?

If the name does bother the kid, it's easily changed.

maddiemookins16mum · 02/04/2017 22:21

Think what you like, it's true (sadly). I never said I agreed with it, but it is. Money/wealthy/highly educated families do not call their kids "Maysee Joye".

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