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To think that Britain should take a tougher line on certain children's names?

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floraeasy · 31/03/2017 21:08

I name this baby... Superman. And another one... Gazza.

Oh, and let’s call this little mite... Gandalf.

And why not throw in Arsenal for good measure!

All the above are British children’s real first names – and they have all been given official blessing by our liberal authorities.

In Britain, all names, however ridiculous, are up for grabs. Hence celebrities can bestow their children with the likes of Apple, Harper Seven, Zowie and Fifi Trixibelle.

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The General Register Office says there are no restrictions on parents - except for exceptional cases, such as a name which could be deemed offensive, when an official could refuse to register it.

But such unusual names could blight a child’s future, according to Professor Helen Petrie, from the University of York, who has studied the psychological effects of having an unusual name.

“I found that people with unusual names had a really hard time, particularly when they were children,” she said.

They described getting teased and how traumatic it could be - because all children want to fit in. But when they became adults, they are often glad that they have something to help them stand out from the crowd.

“People with very common names sometimes feel that they aren’t unique enough. So I think there’s a happy medium to be struck.”

So isn’t it time we took a leaf out of baby naming books from other countries and make such monikers illegal?

Here are some of the worst offenders that have been officially banned in their own countries, but that any Tombola, Dickdastardly or Haribo could call their babies in Britain.

• Lucifer, V8, Christ and Messiah are among the baby names rejected by New Zealand’s department of internal affairs. Disappointed parents wishing to christen their offspring with numbers (89), letters (J, I, T) and punctuation marks (*) were also given short shrift.

• Fish and Chips (twins), Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit also got the kybosh, though the New Zealand judges did allow Number 16 Bus Shelter and Violence.

• But the top of the NZ banned list must surely be Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

• In Sweden, there is a law preventing parents from naming their children Metallica and Elvis. But in a parental fightback, a couple attempted to name their child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Yes, it’s spelled correctly. We’ve double-checked! And apparently, it’s pronounced “Albin”, though we’re not sure how.

• In Italy, judges prevented a couple calling their kid Venerdi aka Friday. They reckoned the name - taken from Robinson Crusoe - would expose the boy to “mockery”.

• Over in Norway, a woman was thrown in jail for two days for giving her child the unapproved name Gesher aka Bridge.

• On the other side of the world, the Malaysian government banned the name Chow Tow. It sounds harmless enough, until you realise the translation is Smelly Head!

• But in China, a family wanted to keep their baby’s name short and sweet, by simply calling it @. Perfect for Twitter, we’d have thought.

• In Germany, the names Stompie, Woodstock and Grammophon have been turned down, whereas the similarly strange Speedy, Lafayette and Jazz were allowed.

• In New Zealand, a whopping 77 names have been banned. They include Lucifer, Mafia No Fear, 4Real, 2nd, 3rd or 5th and ‘.’ (or full stop!).

• But surely top of the pile (excuse the pun) of banned baby names is this from Denmark: Anus. Apparently, the judges thought the baby’s parents were trying to make an a**e of their offpring!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/08/banned-the-world-s-most-ridiculous-baby-names_n_7379492.html

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armpitz · 31/03/2017 21:36

I hated my name as a child for being unusual.

I now like it but I do think it's made my life awfully difficult.

GlitterGlassEye · 31/03/2017 21:37

I think a lot of celebs just tell us a pretend name for their kids. Rumour has it, North West is actually named Dondra(sp?) after Kanye Wests mother. I hope so anyway.

lalalalyra · 31/03/2017 21:38

I also think there's a big difference between unusual names and ridiculous ones.

floraeasy · 31/03/2017 21:39

I also think there's a big difference between unusual names and ridiculous ones

Absolutely!

Unusual is fine but something like "Anus" is just plain cruel IMO.

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Instasista · 31/03/2017 21:39

I have a friend whose birth certificate gives her name as symbol. Can't say which as it is very putting naturally. She chose her own name

witsender · 31/03/2017 21:39

I know a Hercules. He has a lot to live up to.

I also know and Aubrey, which has never struck me as an odd name

StillDrivingMeBonkers · 31/03/2017 21:41

Victorian baby names - a sample -

Friendless Baxter was a boy born in 1871

Ann Bertha Cecilia Diana Emily Fanny Gertrude Hypatia Iug Jane Kate Louisa Maud Nora Orphelia Quince Rebecca Starkey Teresa Ulysis Venus Winifred Xenophen Yetty Zeus was born in 1883. That's one name for each letter of the alphabet except for P. Well, her last name was Pepper.

Clifton Antivaccination. Born in Kent in 1879

Mineral Waters was the name given to a girl in 1882

When the Day family had their first child in 1899, they named him "Time Of." Yes, the boy's name was Time Of Day.

One Too Many Gouldstone was named after his parents apparently had one too many in 1870.

Windsor Castle is the name of a little girl named in 1876

www.viralnova.com/weird-names/

MortalEnemy · 31/03/2017 21:42

I'm with Saucy. I can't find it in me to shriek at deviations from Jack and Sophie. The babies' names in my London NCT group would cause havoc on the Mn baby names forum, yet I imagine those kids will go on to lead unexceptionable middle-class lives.

PicardsCombOver · 31/03/2017 21:43

I had a cat called Gazza, he didn't offend anyone afaik Grin

Andrewofgg · 31/03/2017 21:44

Hence celebrities can bestow their children with the likes of Apple, Harper Seven, Zowie and Fifi Trixibelle.

Not just celebrities. Any fool can. In 1966 one fool named his son after all the members of the team which won the World Cup. I wonder ow he has coped in adult life.

Anybody else thinking of Tristram Shandy as they read this?

SageYourResoluteOracle · 31/03/2017 21:46

I once met a child named La-a
Pronounced Ladasha, naturally!

phlebasconsidered · 31/03/2017 21:47

I have taught a JJ, a Porsche, a Domino, an Arrison (Harrison without the H) an Arley ( Harley), a Frodo, a Lol and a Baybee.

I despair.

My own kids have simple, easily spelt, names that can't be shortened. And are not plainly mad.

My kids registrar, in Hackney, said he had vetoed several names. He cited Rolex Porsche, Dolce Gabbana and Comma as some he had said no to.

sobeyondthehills · 31/03/2017 21:48

DS has a very unusual name, with the bonus it can be shortened to a more usual name should he wish

I think you should be able to call your child what you like, ultimately you will have to live with the consequences of it, if your child decides never to speak to you again

OopsDearyMe · 31/03/2017 21:50

Weird to one is cute and unusual to another, my name is very unusual and yes I got teased at school, but that was in a time when everyone was a Kelly or a Julie a David or a Mark. So mine stood out, there are so many different names out there now I don't think its the same for this generation. I love having a name no one else has and as a grown up I have adored the way its unique, unlike my sister who had to use her surname initial because there were so many others with her name.

I didn't choose unusual first names for mine, but I gave ALL of them significant names that were less used as middle ones, allowing them to choose later on which one they preferred.

User543210 · 31/03/2017 21:50

Um, I should be able to use Tyga-lilli if I want. Grin

crabapple34 · 31/03/2017 21:53

sage

No you didn't. That is the hoariest, old, silly name urban legend going.

lalalalyra · 31/03/2017 21:53

My parents named me Starlight so I have pretty strong opinions on names. They weren't the ones who had songs sung at them or given ridiculous nicknames. They also weren't the ones told off by an adult, twice, for not telling them their "proper" name.

There should also be rules about first name-surname combinations. Mine made me wish I was starlight smith on a daily basis.

kurlique · 31/03/2017 21:54

What indeed is wrong with the name Harper... it was my great granny's name... Seven is Harper Beckham's middle name isn't it? Her name is better than her brothers' imho but maybe I am biased! I think people do go a bit bananas with names nowadays... and some don't think carefully about initials etc. And I do agree with lalalalyra... my kids have unusual names... established names but not common nowadays... and more mainstream middle names... happily both like their first names but I think we did adopt the right strategy.

OopsDearyMe · 31/03/2017 21:54

I do have to say tho, there is a little too much double barrelled Mae, Rae going on now and rightly or wrongly some names do give an impression on your socio economic status.

VladmirsPoutine · 31/03/2017 21:54

I'm named after a very famous capital city. It really is only later in life I learned to like it. How I wish I'd had a 'normal' name.

OP yanbu. Some names should be banned. It's a name bestowed for life (or at least until the person can change it) it's not the fucking joke some parents seem to think it is.

That said, if my parents were millionaires / famous - I wouldn't mind being called 'Apple' - it's not as though I'd ever need to get an interviewer to take me seriously in that instance Grin

OopsDearyMe · 31/03/2017 21:56

But you could get teased for anything!

corgiology · 31/03/2017 22:07

My name is Anneka.

Forever known as Knickerbocker glory by my brother. So yes any name can be made fun of. My mum spent a long time trying to find a name that wasn't going to give me a hard time. Yet my brother found a way Grin

ArcheryAnnie · 31/03/2017 22:08

But Gazza is someone's name! Or at least, it's become his name by default.

DJBaggySmalls · 31/03/2017 22:10

Our old neighbours had kids called Sergeant and Major.

rumblingDMexploitingbstds · 31/03/2017 22:11

The argument that a bizarre name will lead to teasing is rapidly failing as there are whole classes full of exciting names. When they're reeled off in a list at registration if you're not used to the class it's hard to keep a straight face. And that's before you walk past a lined up group of tinies and someone saying patiently,

"Hard, don't push Glorious. Jack-Thomas-Peregrine there's a space there over there beside Princess-Mae and Paradise-Maree. Tikka, Boy, Ottoman and Purple, hurry up please."

I swear Hard and Paradise-Maree will grow up and call their children Kevin and Barbara, as by then those will be the cool, different names.

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