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To think that Britain should take a tougher line on certain children's names?

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floraeasy · 31/03/2017 21:08

I name this baby... Superman. And another one... Gazza.

Oh, and let’s call this little mite... Gandalf.

And why not throw in Arsenal for good measure!

All the above are British children’s real first names – and they have all been given official blessing by our liberal authorities.

In Britain, all names, however ridiculous, are up for grabs. Hence celebrities can bestow their children with the likes of Apple, Harper Seven, Zowie and Fifi Trixibelle.

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The General Register Office says there are no restrictions on parents - except for exceptional cases, such as a name which could be deemed offensive, when an official could refuse to register it.

But such unusual names could blight a child’s future, according to Professor Helen Petrie, from the University of York, who has studied the psychological effects of having an unusual name.

“I found that people with unusual names had a really hard time, particularly when they were children,” she said.

They described getting teased and how traumatic it could be - because all children want to fit in. But when they became adults, they are often glad that they have something to help them stand out from the crowd.

“People with very common names sometimes feel that they aren’t unique enough. So I think there’s a happy medium to be struck.”

So isn’t it time we took a leaf out of baby naming books from other countries and make such monikers illegal?

Here are some of the worst offenders that have been officially banned in their own countries, but that any Tombola, Dickdastardly or Haribo could call their babies in Britain.

• Lucifer, V8, Christ and Messiah are among the baby names rejected by New Zealand’s department of internal affairs. Disappointed parents wishing to christen their offspring with numbers (89), letters (J, I, T) and punctuation marks (*) were also given short shrift.

• Fish and Chips (twins), Yeah Detroit, Keenan Got Lucy and Sex Fruit also got the kybosh, though the New Zealand judges did allow Number 16 Bus Shelter and Violence.

• But the top of the NZ banned list must surely be Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii.

• In Sweden, there is a law preventing parents from naming their children Metallica and Elvis. But in a parental fightback, a couple attempted to name their child Brfxxccxxmnpcccclllmmnprxvclmnckssqlbb11116. Yes, it’s spelled correctly. We’ve double-checked! And apparently, it’s pronounced “Albin”, though we’re not sure how.

• In Italy, judges prevented a couple calling their kid Venerdi aka Friday. They reckoned the name - taken from Robinson Crusoe - would expose the boy to “mockery”.

• Over in Norway, a woman was thrown in jail for two days for giving her child the unapproved name Gesher aka Bridge.

• On the other side of the world, the Malaysian government banned the name Chow Tow. It sounds harmless enough, until you realise the translation is Smelly Head!

• But in China, a family wanted to keep their baby’s name short and sweet, by simply calling it @. Perfect for Twitter, we’d have thought.

• In Germany, the names Stompie, Woodstock and Grammophon have been turned down, whereas the similarly strange Speedy, Lafayette and Jazz were allowed.

• In New Zealand, a whopping 77 names have been banned. They include Lucifer, Mafia No Fear, 4Real, 2nd, 3rd or 5th and ‘.’ (or full stop!).

• But surely top of the pile (excuse the pun) of banned baby names is this from Denmark: Anus. Apparently, the judges thought the baby’s parents were trying to make an a**e of their offpring!

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/12/08/banned-the-world-s-most-ridiculous-baby-names_n_7379492.html

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RortyCrankle · 01/04/2017 14:18

C8H10N4O2
I'd have spared you the trouble of meeting 'thick' David Bowie and Nicole Kidman and a number of others.

Precisely Smile

I'm still waiting for someone on MN to name their son Ichabod (Ichabod Crane from Sleepy Hollow). It's a stunning name and comes with two ready made NNs - Ichy and Bod [Grin]

TinfoilHattie · 01/04/2017 14:22

Anyone heard of a child called Pocahontas McCafferty?

Pocahontas McGinty. My mother keeps telling me that her friend who is a nurse/teacher knows someone who met her and gets very upset when I tell her repeatedly that she doesn't exist.

www.scotsman.com/news/pocahontas-mcginty-no-she-disney-exist-1-683286

BikeRunSki · 01/04/2017 14:25

In 1974 the registrar queried whether my friends parents really wanted her to have the initials IRA. So she was RIA instead.

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 01/04/2017 14:25

Pocahontas wouldn't even be that awful, would it?

RortyCrankle · 01/04/2017 14:30

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe
Pocahontas wouldn't even be that awful, would it?

Wouldn't it? Hmm

Robinlaidanegg · 01/04/2017 14:30

Not just celebrities. Any fool can. In 1966 one fool named his son after all the members of the team which won the World Cup. I wonder ow he has coped in adult life.

I had a boyfriend who was named after an entire football team!! I won't put his first and surname as that would massively out both me and him, but his middles are (I shit you not!!) - Arantes do Nascimento Felix Minelli Venerado Hercules Brito Ruas Wilson da Silva Piazzo Carlos Alberto Torres Everaldo Marquis da Silva Closoaldo Tavares de Santana Jair Ventura Filho Gerson da Olivera Nunes Eduardo Concalves Andrade Roberto Rivelino Mario Jorge Lobo Zagallo Arthur Antunes Coimbra Socrates Brasilero Stampao du Souza Olivera de Vera Maracano Diego Armando Maradona Grin
Funny enough he doesn't often use them all! And when he first told me I did think he was lying...nope. It's true. I've seen the proof!

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 01/04/2017 14:35

Rorty

Well, I've heard worse.
Chantelle, Chardonnay, Jordyn, Chelseigh, Braedyn, Bradun, Kaylub etc...?

gabsdot · 01/04/2017 14:38

A couple i know had real makie upie names for all their kids. One of their boy's has Danger as a middle name.
It was the dad's idea, he wanted his kid to be able to say "Danger is my middle name".
True story.

tb · 01/04/2017 14:41

What about the poor child - think it was a girl - born in 1966 who had her birth registered as "Charlton, Moore etc etc" with the names of every member of the England team just after they'd won the World Cup?

I've known the following:
James Riddall - his father was a Presbyterian minister, so could be forgiven for not knowing of 'Jimmy Riddle' being rhyming slang
Richard Head - an HR assistant who was always called Richard, never abbreviated.

VestalVirgin · 01/04/2017 14:46

Over in Norway, a woman was thrown in jail for two days for giving her child the unapproved name Gesher aka Bridge.

Why?

If the authorities accepted this name, then they are to blame, if they did not, then the woman did not name her child this, but just attempted to. (And "Bridge" is not really that horrible a name)

Common sense should be applied.
"Gandalf" is a grey area (pun totally intended), as is Elvis. Those are legitimate names, they just happen to be famous.
Might be okay as middle names.

VestalVirgin · 01/04/2017 14:55

I think the letter c isn't a part of their alphabet.So, Caro, Cora, Cindie etc are probably all forbidden in Iceland.

I think Iceland only allows citizens traditional Icelandic names. Don't know whether they have relaxed that policy, or are considering it.

I've come across that rule in Germany before about being able to tell if it is a M/F from the name, I think that's why Mattie gets refused there

I think that's a very sexist rule.

And also completely at odds with the Danish rule that you may not name your child something that may have negative impact later in life - to be easily recognized as a woman IS a pretty bad handicap in all patriarchal countries.
(Still wouldn't advocate calling a girl Olaf, but neutral names should be allowed.)

ClaryBeanHorshAndMe · 01/04/2017 14:57

vestal

In Switzerland you can use unisex names, but if you do the middle name needs to be clearly gendered.

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x246 · 01/04/2017 15:22

Unusual names, go for it. But I always think unusual spellings of common names must be such a pain in the arse for the person landed with the name. I know of a girl called Elleiot. It's spelt like that so people know she's a girl because Elle is a girls name. I went to school with a guy who might as well have been called 'Elliot with two ts' because teachers always forgot how it was spelt and that's an established spelling. Being called 'Elliot with a random e in the middle' sounds like a right pain in the arse to me.

thegreylady · 01/04/2017 15:34

I have 3 names but one of them twice!
Like Susan Jane Susan Dorothy! I have always been known by the last name. The reason is that when I was baptised in 1944 my name had been registered as Susan Jane, however my parents decided they didn't like Jane. The Susan was after grandma who hated her name so I was baptised Susan Dorothy and this was added to my birth certificate which makes my full name Susan Jane Susan Dorothy (not the actual names but you get the idea.

MaybeAFool · 01/04/2017 16:08

In the school my mum teaches in, there was a child called Lucifer. He was permanently excluded in his first term for behavioural issues which put students and staff at risk.
His brother moves up to the school in September. His name is Loki.
They have a sister. Her name is Amy Grin

MaybeAFool · 01/04/2017 16:09

Really laughing at Susan Jane Susan Dorothy.
That's amazing

Natsku · 01/04/2017 17:44

Most Scandinavian countries have an 'approved' list that you have to use. If you want to use a foreign name you have to prove that name is a 'real' name

Only Iceland has an approved list as far as I know, most Scandinavian countries just set rules that prevent giving a child a name that will be detrimental to them or obviously ridiculous. Foreign names tend to be approved as a matter of course so long as one of the parents is from that background.

Cellardoor23 · 01/04/2017 18:59

My DP's auntie was registered with a completely different name to what she uses. Not her real names, but something along the lines of being legally known as Laura and calling herself Agnes.

IvyLeagueUnderTheSea · 01/04/2017 19:01

There are a lot of people who are called one name but legally another, cellar.

NotaSnowflake · 01/04/2017 19:09

My friend gets funny remarks at her kid's School all the time because her kids are S-Jay & D-Jay!

NotaSnowflake · 01/04/2017 19:10

Thing is, they aren't their real names. They're escaping DV and had to abbreviate

WormwoodScrubbed · 01/04/2017 19:19

In 1974 the registrar queried whether my friends parents really wanted her to have the initials IRA. So she was RIA instead

My year seven maths teacher had those initials and in that school at that time teachers were always referred to by their initials as well. I hated the evil man so found this mildly amusing

We also had a Geography teacher called Mrs Power and her initials were AMP, so the butt of jokes

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