... for those who are devastated about Brexit, how are you dealing with the fear and depression and anxiety?

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Has anyone got any strategies? I am genuinely not one for melodrama, but I am devastated, angry, terrified, depressed, and I feel so utterly helpless. Nothing in my lifetime has made me feel like this, and I just can't imagine feeling like this for the next two years and beyond. I can hardly bear to listen to the news, but I feel compelled to anyway. How are other remainers dealing with this, what are your coping strategies? And what, if anything, can we DO?

This thread is hilarious, it really is. It's interesting that the op hasn't returned. I do not believe some of the responses though, I mean, no one in real life is that pathetic, surely. For all the remainers threatening to leave the UK, if you hate this country that much then I wish you luck.

"This thread is hilarious, it really is."

It's nice that you find people losing their jobs or worrying about whether their friends and partners will be allowed to stay in the country hilarious. What a wonderful life you must live when you don't have to consider the feelings of other people.

Thanks TJE - I tried a small plastic fork last time but it wasn't really up to the job.

It does help - the political bit - though doesn't it? It's odd, I never saw myself joining a party, ever, but being part of a group doing something makes such a difference from an emotional perspective. And I am hopeful, an actual difference to where we end up.

UserRandom Pathetic you may find it, but you might underestimate the strength of positive feeling for the EU and the real-life benefits it's brung. And the sense of loss many people have. So I guess you can:

a) acknowledge that other people feel bad and are fearful about real-life negative impacts on their and other's lives
b) dismiss them as being pathetic.

Given it sounds like Number B for you, there is a thread in the EURef section asking for tangible benefits ahead. Your contribution would be valued there, I am sure.

hackmum - I have been made redundant twice thank you very much. As I said, both hilarious and pathetic. As other have said, get a bloody grip.

Actually, before I bugger off: post-referendum I literally wept most days for about 3 months. And I would say it is second to a death in how I felt about it.

The potential of withdrawal from the EU was (and remains) a huge loss for me. I grew up in a community rife with nationalism, and was terrified to see it again, and I have always had a sense that the EU was designed to prevent war through fairly dull trade negotiation. It's been successful enough at that.

So, OP and anyone else still picking their way through being told only CORRECT emotions are permitted who feels bad , and and MORE CLEGG:

www.facebook.com/Channel4NewsDemocracy/videos/1256349547776319/

Anlaf - you wept for almost 3 months. Well done you, along with the OP, I now know this is a piss take. Fair enough, I have been well and truely had!!!

I am fearful and anxious - I am french and lived here for 24 years. I worry at times about what my status changing. My daughter is British so what does this mean as a family? but I am not depressed, yes, I was devastated after the referendum, I was angry too a little but I am not terrified, and I don;t feel so utterly helpless.
What makes you feel so extreme already when you don't know what the future holds..?
Be pragmatic.. Teresa May has no other way but to make it work for the Brits at least and she will fight for this. Me, as a French citizen living in the UK, its another story.. let's see what happens

Actually, before I bugger off: post-referendum I literally wept most days for about 3 months. And I would say it is second to a death in how I felt about it.

I think a little perspective is needed and I voted remain.

Hilarious?

I have a EU friend with a British husband and British children, lived and worked in the UK for 20 years. She is tearing her hair out trying to apply for naturalisation but has no idea if the home office will approve her initial request or dismiss it in a wim. So if the hilarious negotiations don't protect EU workers, in 2 years' time she stands to lose:

Husband (reciprocity)
Children
House
Job
Pension (15 years of pension contributions). If she wanted to qualify for a pension in her country of origin she'd have to work until her late 70s.
Access to healthcare (she has lived so long here that she doesn't qualify for healthcare in her country of origin)

I thought I would list it clearly so you can laugh and snort a bit more, and go on about the Blitz, North Korea and other things you have no idea about.

Most people would think that anxiety, anger, stress and sorrow are the natural response to stakes this high, especially when the outcome is completely out of your control.

My tummy hurts I'm laughing so hard

So again

If you are personally affected by Brexit it's fine to be anxious, upset and angry.

If you were personally affected by some of the less palatable parts of being in the EU, you should suck it up?

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My tummy hurts I'm laughing so hard hmm

Me too. Btw, why did she take so long to apply for naturalisation?

Please accept this gift (grip).

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Were there posts after posts on those types of 'the eu has ruined my life' threads

Saying, suck it up, get a grip, you're pathetic, what did people do in ww2, self indulgence?

And i don't doubt that some people have had immense problems under the eu if people say so

Rufus I think when concerns were expressed re immigration, these were put down to xenophobia, yes.

So disbelief but not the comments we have had on this thread?

And as i say i dont doubt people have been adversely affected but its the complete lack of empathy from posters (not yourself) which has been eye opening

Although to be fair i dont include anything posted by any 'user' names

I am sure loads of 'users' are lovely but some appear to be hiding , again not on this thread

I understand - I think I was speaking more generally while you were speaking specifically? :)

I think it's fine, understandable, right even, to have concerns but I think we ideally should be open to everybody's concerns (I know you are!)

We are being much too reasonable

The trauma of facing deportation:
In Sweden, hundreds of refugee children have fallen unconscious after being informed that their families will be expelled from the country.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/04/03/the-trauma-of-facing-deportation
It's not brexit but it is deportation and how children react to being told that their parents have to leave their country.
And the illness and anxiety concomitant with such orders is not documented in Britain but is in Sweden.

Btw,why did she take so long to apply for naturalisation?

I think this question has been answered about 1000 times on previous threads. Why would you apply (and pay) for naturalisation when you have had every right to live somewhere without naturalisation for up to 40 years. For most people it was just an extra and unnecessary piece of paperwork.

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Btw, why did she take so long to apply for naturalisation?
A) she doesn't need to right now. But she might in future, depending on how the Brexit negotiations go re FOM
B) it costs £1-£2k, takes months/ years and requires literally hundreds of paper documents
C) the rules have been changed retrospectively a couple of times so even people who planned and prepared had the rug pulled from off their feet
D) luckily her country allows dual nationality. Some don't so I guess she is lucky.

HTH. Sounds like you don't know much about the process.

For about a month after the referendum I woke up in the night quite often and felt a real sense of doom and dread like something really bad was going to happen. I think that was my instinct telling me to be prepared. I'm still expecting things to get pretty bad here, but it probably won't happen for a couple of years and it might be a slow decline. I'm resigned to it now as I know nothing can be done.

My job will almost certainly go as it's not looking good now. I think it might be quite hard for me to get another job. I have thought about leaving, but it's too hard for me to arrange this and it would feel just as insecure as staying put. There's nowhere to go really.

But, I feel so sorry for all the people whose futures are more insecure than mine - for all the people who might have to leave or return to the UK.

Obviously, I could be wrong and everything will be fine. I hope I'm wrong.

Misswatch - you sound racist, sexist and not very nice. Try to become a more compassionate person.