... for those who are devastated about Brexit, how are you dealing with the fear and depression and anxiety?

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Has anyone got any strategies? I am genuinely not one for melodrama, but I am devastated, angry, terrified, depressed, and I feel so utterly helpless. Nothing in my lifetime has made me feel like this, and I just can't imagine feeling like this for the next two years and beyond. I can hardly bear to listen to the news, but I feel compelled to anyway. How are other remainers dealing with this, what are your coping strategies? And what, if anything, can we DO?

I don't think we can make any predictions,

I voted Remain because I couldn't get any reliable information about what impact Brexit would have upon us.

We still don't know because there is no crystal ball.

Only time will tell if we have made the right or wrong decision.

At the moment I am broadly confident that it will work out okay in the long term with patient negotiation. I am NOT confident that the money we currently spend on the EU will go to the NHS though.

I voted to leave and I still feel that I made the right decision with regard to my vote. I was still undecided right up until the last minute as it was extremely hard to make an informed choice given the information available.

Of course no-one can possibly know the outcome as this is only the beginning of what will be a long process. However, I feel excited and optimistic at the prospects this country will now have.

The slogan on the bus actually said " we send the EU £350 million a week, let's fund our NHS instead"

That didn't say there was a cast iron guarantee that all that money would be spent on the NHS; it pointed out how much money was wasted on the EU and that the money could be better spent elsewhere; the NHS being one example.
And whilst we're on the subject of lies/ blackmail; what happened to the very definite emergency budget which was going to happen the very next day if we voted leave? Don't remember that happening.

How did we get by before we joined the EU.

we spent our days crying and racially abusing people ( or did we?)

Thread thoroughly derailed and crashed!
Job done people!

I posted that upthread dawn. Our economy was dire in the late 60s/70s. Also, it was a totally different, pre-globalised world.

Doobigetta
A lot of the 'on-line' remainers ( especially the really angry ones ) aren't actually living in the U.K. - or if they are they're not entitled to vote. So really, the only thing they can do is make a lot of noise on social media.
All a complete waste of time but there you go.

I've just shut myself away in my safe-space with my colouring books.

How you dealing with it? - honesty!!!!

We'll be calling ourselves "Surviviors" next

Thread thoroughly derailed and crashed! Job done people!

ooookayyyy....

I think the OP's wording is somewhat melodramatic. However, her concerns are pretty sensible. I'm astounded by the complacency expressed by some of the posters on this thread- it seems to suggest a complete failure to understand the issues. The chances of our leaving the EU with as good a deal as we have at present are effectively nil, while the risk of us leaving without a deal at all is genuine. Therefore there will be job losses- the only question is the extent.

We can argue all day about whether the economic damage we're inflicting on ourselves is worth it (at the risk of stating the obvious, my viewpoint is that it's very much not). But simply putting your head in the sand and saying that the government will sort it out is a pretty inadequate response. I sincerely hope that we manage to agree a deal that gets us out with the minimum of harm but I'm certainly making plans that cover all contingencies.

No thread is not detailed it's an open internet site and it's AIBU! You ask the question and people answer.

I think the dramatic and OTT opening post has attracted the piss take but really what would you expect.

moog did you really just say that people shouldn't join political parties because that's not how democracy works? Ummmm....

Dear I don't think people are complaicent but more measured snd waiting to see.

I can't see there being the unemployment levels of the 70s and we were in the then EEC at that time.

Being in the EU didn't stop the recessions of the 80s and the devastating 90s. It didn't stop the collapse of the Greek and Irish Republic economies.

It causes great problems with the Euro snd thankgod we didn't join that.

It depends if you feel we as a country are or are not capable of running our own country and operating in a global economy all of which we did quite successfully for centuries before 1975. I think we will be successful with a few bumps along the road.

It's fairly obvious what she meant though isn't it, regardless of what 'side' you're on.

Even those of us who only read the side of buses know what she meant

armpitz

you're talking about immigration and of course population growth is an issue (also caused my our high birth rate - ours is one of the highest in the EU although I am told by some MNers it is not high enough). And the fact that people have not been able to express their concerns without being called racist is one reason people voted to Leave.

BUT - the immigration is not the issue. The issue is OUR government's lack of investment in infrastructure (except in London eg Crossrail), new housing etc and not having a coherent policy for the whole of the UK (eg get empty housing back into use, look at brown field sites before building on green field etc). They want the taxes but they don't want to invest in anything because of "austerity". None of that is the EU's fault.

That said, the EU could have should have recognised that the burden of immigration was falling disproportionately on the UK and alleviated the concerns.

On Countryfile the other week there was a discussion with a farmer who currently uses Eastern European labour - he didn't want to use student labour because he claimed it took too long to train people up and then they'd be gone after 3 months. I did not find that entirely convincing. But generally I think immigrants do the jobs British people don't want to do - and more particularly, are not qualified to do and are not taking jobs away from British people.

Unless you live in a few very specific parts of the UK, I don't think it's right to say that the burden of immigration falls on us disproportionately. Look at places like Malta, Italy, even Germany. Per head of population we have far fewer migrants. I accept it might not feel like it if you live in Boston or Dover, but it's true.

That's why we need to stop blaming migrants and start understanding how to actually live together.

I agree with arm and others

The OP is entitled to her feelings

My ds is depressed by the whole thing (trump didnt help) and i would ignore his feelings either

I have no problem with people voting leave, i have nodded along with a lot of the arguments

But i do wish people on both sides would stop talking bollocks

'Most remainers on mumsnet aren't British'

'Leavers are racist'

'Remainers hate democracy'

'Leavers aren't educated'

Grow up!!!

Do some of you not realise that you are pissing off people that are 'on your side' with those comments?

Apparently i am an racist uneducated foreigner who hates british democracy and voted remain!!!

And stop blethering on about democracy and sovereignty if you don't actually know what those words mean

Well saidr Doyouwantabrew. Good points.

Doyouwantabrew, it would be great if you were right but I don't think you are, sadly. I think we're likely to suffer some fairly substantial economic harm and, while we might recover in the very long term, in the short term people will become poorer, jobs will go, public services will decline further.

Of course EU membership didn't prevent us from the recessions of the 80s, 90s and 00s. The difference here is that the harm we'll suffer is entirely self-inflicted and could have been avoided. My point is that, given the substantial uncertainties about the future, it's a good idea to plan accordingly.

Remoaniac, I agree entirely. Many of our problems stem from decades of under-investment in the regions and a lack of clear strategy- nothing to do with the EU. I keep seeing interviews with people who voted to leave on the basis that they thought it would bring more investment and jobs to their region- it's utterly heart-breaking.

This would be the same EU that PROTECTS the German pharmaceutical company that produced Thalidomide from litigation from UK victims and paying them compensation?

Wasn't Thalidomide but similar effects

Doyouwantabrew actually the OP asked a very specific question - even a practical question if you want.

Very few posters are answering the question - this thread is not debating or answering an AIBU anymore. It has turned into yet another bun fight about the virtues / horrors of Brexit. I call that derailed.

And the style of some posts made me think of the handful of posters that were extremely active during the Brexit and Trump campaigns, and were never seen again after.

OhtoblazeswithElvira what was it in the original post, that she was asking 'am I being unreasonable' about?