to start a thread about trans panic because there have only been seventy six already

[GustyParson]

Trans people want to steal your rights! And stroke your cat. They want to colonise your child's reading books, infiltrate your favourite prisons, appropriate the gold medals you would otherwise win for your peerless skills on the pummel horse, take the best seats on the Tube, demand that midwives talk exclusively about pregnant fathers, haunt your preferred changing rooms, run rampant through the Brownie Guides, go unchallenged in every echelon of the WI, burn all your favourite pronouns in an industrial furnace, benefit from all your oppression, demand your pet dog be addressed as Mx, frolic carelessly across the flower bed you've only just planted for God's sake, insist that there are more than two genders, require to be recognised as the gender 'combine harvester' one day and the gender 'quail' the next, piss on the toilet you wanted to reserve for your friends, and call you Cis which is like totally cruel because it sounds like sissy.

Alternatively, trans people are people, they are not trying to hurt you, most of you have never met one, none of you need to feel threatened by them, and there really isn't a need to start fifteen threads a week fretting that they're going to steal your last Bourbon Cream, appropriate or destroy feminism, or change your baby's name from Thomas to Pixie. Seriously, calm down.

BastardBlood, there are an awful lot of those dreadful penises in women's prisons, without their owners being trans. Likewise, lots of vaginas in men's prisons.

I'd ask everyone not to descend into fighting fire with fire on the TRA propaganda - that's what they want

Yes, people posting pics of bearded ladees is pointless it's the more general issues such as women's safety, crime statistics that matter, not the views of an attention seeker on youtube. imv

This thread just looks like a windup as OP hasn't been back

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This is what some think of women. Not all I agree. Sexist and hate women.

Transsexuals, those who are attracted to men, have gender dysphoria and just want to get on with their lives under the radar have, historically, been at liberty to do just that. Presenting as women helps their dysphoria. They know it, we know it.

The eruption of the trans-ideology in the last 10 years has not been about them or for them.

When the law changed in 2004 it was meant to help these people.

What it actually did was give the green light to every cross dressing fetishist in the country. Men who absolutely love dressing as women, accessing women's spaces, subjugating women. It's not a hardship, it's a compulsion.

The entire fetish is around 'forced' feminisation, the more humiliating, the bigger the kick. They get off on enjoying victim status, and they see women as victims. Hence the massive, spluttering outrage when women don't act like the victims they are supposed to be and vehemently reject their rhetoric.

How many other ideological debates are met with threats of rape and violent, excessively gendered, abuse?

If you have a highly charged, heated debate with someone, you may get called an idiot, ignorant, uninformed - you rarely get threatened with rape from a broken bottle.

So yes we can talk about gender differences, oppression, rights, respect, all we like. But at the end of the day these people are creating laws specifically designed to give them access to women on the basis of an inner compulsion that has nothing to do with being 'born in the wrong body'.

Women and girls are going to be faced with these people in their most intimate spaces.

Transsexuals are going to be forced to take a politically charged viewpoint. Whilst having a huge drama over their loo choice, which had never existed before.

The wholesale whitewashing of what is a fetish, and feting people like Caitlin Jenner is turning a disorder like a gender dysphoria into a lifestyle that says you can choose your sex.

The ideology is damaging to every body except transactivists.

And everyone whe knows a thoroughly decent transsexual really, really needs to try and understand the difference.

My sister's neighbour is trans-sexual but awaiting the op. She's lovely, but is over six foot and weighs about seventeen stone, so not very feminine.

You are right.
I realize this is a bit off topic but statements like the above puzzle me:

Why is it nearly always the tall, overly 'bloke (y), looking men that want to become women? You rarely hear of little men wanting to transition..
There has to be a reason.
Another -
Why do middle aged men who transition nearly always have names that people assosiate with teenagers, or very young girls - , such as Kelly, Kristy, Kimberly, Britney, etc I find that a bit sinister and creepy for some reason.
Why not have names that are typical of their age group - Susan, Barbara, Sarah, Jayne etc etc.

Why do middle aged men who transition nearly always have names that people assosiate with teenagers, or very young girls - , such as Kelly, Kristy, Kimberly, Britney, etc I find that a bit sinister and creepy for some reason.

It's the fetish. Girly, helpless, fluffy, weak. Their online nicknames often have 'girl' or 'gal' in them. Fifty year olds.

Looks at self. 5'7, 65kg
Looks at name.

Thinks Britney would be a strange name.

Carries on.

Love the irony of a poster having a go at someone for using the word "sissy", when Ive seen them include "queer" in their alphabet soup on another thread.

Are you fifty ego? Genuine question - I had you pegged for in your late thirties at oldest.

Plus I think the 6foot Britney's of the world were supposed to be the fetishists, from that post? Not the old-school transsexuals

Are you fifty ego? shock Genuine question - I had you pegged for in your late thirties at oldest

Not 50.

Not late 30s. I wish

Mid 40s. Been 'out' for 8 yrs.

I hope you aren't 'looking at self' to give the impression that Autogynophilia isn't a thing, when it actually is

Looking at self means looking in a mirror - which seems to be a perfectly sensible comment to make when someone discusses appearance and height.

Woman wanting female spaces only to be used by females and we are being hysterical becuase males have told us that we now have no right to this

Ok then

As PP have pointed out, there is no urge on MN to remove trans rights, but there are a lot of women trying to preserve women's rights. Unfortunately, doing this means that we have to tackle the TRAs, and that means making a study of what they say and do.

There are conflicts of interest between trans rights and women's rights (sport, women's refuges) and these need to be discussed in a civilised and rational fashion, not shouted down by TRAs hollering 'transphobe!'

Ah yes, hysteria. Wandering womb should totally come under the encompassing-almost-everything trans-umbrella

Why do middle aged men who transition nearly always have names that people assosiate with teenagers, or very young girls

I think men who match this description are probably few and far between but it's the oddballs who attract attention, and/or want to attract attention and are thus on FB etc
There are thousands of nice, ordinary looking transgenders who we never hear of and probably wouldn't even guess were trans.

*Why do middle aged men who transition nearly always have names that people assosiate with teenagers, or very young girls - , such as Kelly, Kristy, Kimberly, Britney, etc I find that a bit sinister and creepy for some reason.
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Yes I have to agree, there is something extremely creepy about them.

Back a'cha, exit

Congrats OP - wonderful to see someone brave enough to stand up to the majority and speak up for the rights of women.

I think you might find that those who are against trans ideology are the ones who give a shit about the rights of women.

Unless you mean male women of course.

I'm glad you started another trans thread, OP. The more of them people post, the more chances people who were like me will read them and realise that trans activists are destroying women's rights.

*Why do middle aged men who transition nearly always have names that people assosiate with teenagers, or very young girls - , such as Kelly, Kristy, Kimberly, Britney, etc I find that a bit sinister and creepy for some reason.
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Yes I have to agree, there is something extremely creepy about them.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this odd.

A strapping, gnarly,been round the block, middle aged bloke calling himself Kelly or Tiffany is all sorts of creepy.

Why do middle aged men who transition nearly always have names that people associate with teenagers, or very young girls - such as Kelly, Kristy, Kimberly, Britney, etc I find that a bit sinister and creepy for some reason.

It says a lot that they want 'young sexy' names.
A bit of a fetish aspect to it methinks.

Yes I have to agree, there is something extremely creepy about them.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this odd.
A strapping, gnarly,been round the block, middle aged bloke calling himself Kelly or Tiffany is all sorts of creepy.