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Is this the most sexist front page ever?

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superoz · 28/03/2017 00:52

I never ever post in AIBU but I have just watched newsnight and could not believe my eyes when going through tomorrow's front pages of the newspapers.

I don't read said publication so will not post a direct link, but will leave this here instead:

https://mobile.twitter.com/MaliDaily/status/846490647112695808

I thought it might be some kind of a joke. Nope. AIBU to think first Shock then AngryAngry

OP posts:
egosumquisum1 · 28/03/2017 10:40

What would Sarah Vine and Paul Dacre have liked them to wear and how should they have sat that would have been acceptable to them and not warranted an article?

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 10:41

But if you don't care what anyone thinks why go to the trouble and discomfort of wearing a skirt/dress, shave legs, high heels.?

Perhaps you care what others think, but only the ones that matter to you. Perhaps your sparkly necklace, your husband likes you in that dress, you like the way you look in that blouse, your mum likes the way you wear your hair, your colleagues like the pattern of your dress?

I just wish more women, especially leaders, had the confidence to not feel the need to go to more trouble than men when they're dressing and not feel the need to uncover their bodies in a way that the vast majority of men don't

Leaders have confidence. They have no reason to alter their dress to suit others. Why does showing legs = lacking in confidence. Perhaps it means not giving a shit what the Daily Mail say.

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 10:43

nippy Heels make them look taller or more important or sexy or mature Why would a confident person be bothered about any of those things? They don't need to prove their worth by the way they dress

Removing peoples ability to express themselves destroys confidence. Dress is a type of expression.

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 10:43

you obviously express yourself in flat shoes. That is fine

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 10:44

FFS the clothing police are out

rogueantimatter · 28/03/2017 10:44

Showing legs involves going to more effort than men. It displays their nice legs. Because they want people to see that they have nice legs? Why? Men don't bother.

squishy - I agree. Women are got at anyway. We're either frumpy or sexy Angry

goldenrachita · 28/03/2017 10:50

I give you Justin Trudeau. Hot!

Is The holier-that-thou Guardian being sexist or just recognising his hotness? www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/07/justin-trudeau-shirtless-photo

Also in the Telegraph because hotness is left AND right: www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/01/photos-young-shirtless-justin-trudeau-send-internet-frenzy/

Yes, I know this isn't in the text of an article about something specific he's done politically (like Brexit discussions) so not as bad in that sense, but it is a whole article apiece devoted to his looks, which overall recently have got at least as much attention as his politics, probably a lot more. Just because he happens to be sexy looking.

I don't know.....male politicans can be a plain and boring looking lot. It's partly just trying to make a long dull drawn out Brexit story more interesting to the public who generally want the government to just get on with it. And get clicks- why do people click?- because most people probably find Brexit negotiations tedious to read about and like to think about how clothes send messages instead- human nature.

Nicola Sturgeon is a few thousand leagues below Trudeau in good looks but as a woman she gets a better choice of outfits, so it's not uninteresting to check out what she's wearing. Teresa May dresses very well- as a woman I'm always interested to see her clothes. The reference to her legs is prurient but I'm not threatened or upset by it any more than I am by the pics of Justin. I genuinely think the general public is not sexist and can see her for being highly professional, competent, tough, skilled (with a bit of ruthless, nasty etc depending on your politican opinion) and will just roll their eyes and ignore the DM is just being silly and sensationalist.

Of all the things affecting women's rights worldwide at the moment this is a really minor thing. I just feel it's comical and I'm above it to be honest.

drjane · 28/03/2017 10:50

SapphireStrange - I complained to IPSO on the basis of discrimination. Male politicians wouldn't be treated that way. It probably can't be upheld, but if enough people complain you never know! At least it's registered.

Magicpaintbrush · 28/03/2017 10:54

The Daily Mail isn't fit to wipe bottoms with. I really hope it eventually goes the same way as the News of The World. That tabloid piece of crap makes the world a worse place just for existing.

itsawonderfulworld · 28/03/2017 10:54

It's completely appropriate and relevant. We're about to set the clocks back 60 years after all. Welcome to the 1950s!

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 10:56

Hotness is everywhere yes.

It is not only the right wingers that have the gaul to notice attractive features.

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 10:58

The Mail is still shit

rogueantimatter · 28/03/2017 10:59

wonderfulworld Grin

Indeed! The 1950s, when most working women weren't allowed to wear trousers.

Magicpaintbrush · 28/03/2017 10:59

This sort of shite journalism - if you can even call it that - is so typical of the Daily Fail. Firstly the sexism of the headline - they are the political leaders of two countries and because they are women they clearly can't have anything important or intelligent to say so let's just compare who has the best legs - wtf!! And the fact that it's on the front page no less - nothing more important happening around the world today??? They always prioritise non-stories about crap like this (or which Kardashian is wearing what) over actual news.

rogueantimatter · 28/03/2017 11:00

I agree Nippy

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 11:03

If you want to read actual news you don't buy the Mail.

It is a joke newspaper a bit like the guardian.

DeleteOrDecay · 28/03/2017 11:04

This is infuriating. There would be no such headline if it were two men in the photo. How anyone can defend or brush this off as 'just a laugh' is beyond me. It's totally unacceptable.

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 11:05

They perv on men too

(I'm just going to keep posting this)

egosumquisum1 · 28/03/2017 11:11

I'm just going to keep posting this

Why?

SapphireStrange · 28/03/2017 11:15

Thanks drjane. I'll complain on those same grounds.

UpAwfYerSeatWeeNippy · 28/03/2017 11:19

Because I believe it is part of a wider (perving) problem and not simply sexism.

MorrisZapp · 28/03/2017 11:19

Oh come the fuck off it. An inside peice about how Trudeau's hotness has been noticed by the Internet doesn't in any way, shape or form equate to a front page headline about an historically important political meeting being reduced to legs, and you absolutely know it.

Trudeau is adorable. May is leggy and stylish. Nicola wears nippy wee suits and has bags of charisma. It's not insulting to notice these things. But the context of that front page is everything, as any vaguely media literate person knows full well.

STOP DIET COKING.

MsHooliesCardigan · 28/03/2017 11:21

Of course I believe that any woman can wear whatever they want. But I think there is a lot of pressure on women in the public eye to look a particular way - more than there used to be. If you look at early episodes of The Apprentice, most of the women used to wear fairly understated clothes. In recent series's, they all seem to be wearing 6 inch heels, skin tight clothes, have massive hair extensions and are plastered in makeup. Of course that's their choice but it seems to me that there's a pressure to dress like that which is another form of sexism - like the recent case when a woman was sacked for refusing to wear high heels.

TheElephantofSurprise · 28/03/2017 11:23

There is no excuse for such sexist commentary as in the papers.

But, both women knew they would be photographed and could have worn trousers, longer skirts or indeed, burkhas, had they so wished. They wanted their legs in the photos.

That's fine. Still no excuse for making the legs more important than the politics.

kaitlinktm · 28/03/2017 11:24

Sarah Vine is married to Michael Gove???

couldn't happen to nicer people

Yes Gourd Grin - they'd spoil another couple

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