AIBU not to remove shoes in the home

[Illtellyouwhatswhat10]

Generally we don't ask guests to remove their shoes, and my SIL said she doesn't either. We both agreed that when you go to the trouble to put on a nice outfit, it's ruined when you have to take off your footwear. SIL added that as we both have tiled/wooden floors in downstairs room why would you ask guests to, anyway?

And another thing, it's often not nice to be barefoot in someone else's home (at least in your own place you have your own slippers) and I'm aware that some people may feel conscious about smelly feet/odd unsightly feet/verrucas. Even if hosts provide slippers, would you want to wear something that's been worn by someone else?

The average British house doesn't tend to have a lot of room for hallway furniture, shoe racks etc though, and it's often very awkward for space if more than one person is trying to come into the house, remove shoes etc at a time, whether they are hopping around on one leg or perched on the stairs.

Difficult and discourteous to subject elderly / infirm people to this imo.

Strange but fascinating. I have never, within my wide circle of friends and acquaintances, been asked to remove my shoes when I have gone to anyone's house. Ever. This includes work situations and going to some vair vair posh houses.

The average British house kinda sucks really. We have a big enclosed porch which is perfect for taking shoes off most of the year but is a bit chilly in winter as its not heated. Don't really get elderly guests though so I guess we're alright for now!

I'm not pretending to be middle class by asking people to take their shoes off

It's really quite simple. It's a rental house with cream carpets that I have to maintain. This is much much easier without mud from outside being walked through the house.

I can't fathom why anyone thinks it's rude to be asked to remove their shoes inside. So maybe I am beyond help!

That's exactly the point motheroftwoboys. As it's bad manners to ask guests to remove shoes, then that wouldn't happen in vair posh houses.

It's an etiquette thing which people are choosing to ignore to protect their carpets. Fine, that's up to you. I wouldn't dream of asking any guest to take their shoes off.

Its only bad manners according to people who were brought up to consider it bad manners. Manners, good or bad, are not universal you know...

Odd - I've just walked into my sisters for the first time in 10 months (distance) and she's in a new house, she told me to keep my shoes on and I feel that I can't move any where due to having them on! I'd rather remove them!

I am not commenting on class or saying I am of any class. I said something about the chart suggesting I was upper middle class which I neither agree with or think is correct. My husband and I come from families where both parents are university educated and one has a PHD.

They own their own businesses and turn over millions each year. My mother works for one of the biggest companies in Europe and is a director there. My father is a senior manager in a massive sales company. They both have masters degrees.

Both my parents and my husbands parents like shoes off to keep the house clean and our stuff hygienic. It is in NO way linked to class as you are suggesting. I am internationally educated and have explored lots of the world. I have lots more to learn and see. I do the weekly shop in Waitrose (not that this matters as it was suggested on another thread that people shop there for the kudos)

My husband and I own our own home together. Not bad for a 24 year old. The mortgage is more then the £180k you sarcastically commented on. Why are you being like that? I had an Audi which was a big car then get your facts straight before firing. It's not on finance. It is a company car which I have on a business lease (my own business, thank you) and I change every three years with my husband according to our needs.

Of COURSE that social scale chart says you're at the top, although 'one couldn't possibly agree one is posh guffaw guffaw...'

Thanks for the laugh though mowgeli

Checklist...

You have your own business.
You have a new audi (not on finance)
You have a mortgage WAY higher that £175K - how much? half a million? Probably more eh?
You are internationally educated and have travelled the world extensively
Your parents are university educated and have Phd's
You own your own home
Your parents own their own business and make multiple millions a year!
You have a child
All at the tender age of 24.

Quite amazing really. Almost unbelievable! VERY actually

Oh and not forgetting that salient piece of information you just HAD to mention! You shop at Waitrose! Not that that's important of course, just like you coming out at the top of the social scale ladder isn't important tee hee blush LOL.

Oh, by the way, it's a bit tight of your parents with their multiple millions to let you struggle with your super-dooper high mortgage isn't it?

Just when you think people on mumsnet can't get any more ludicrous and hilarious!

For the record, at the age of 24 I would expect people to be partying, backpacking around the world, thinking about forging a career, and having a laugh; not saddled with a colossal mortgage, their own business, and a child.

None of that is anything to brag about IMO.

Love that my sky engineer had shoe covers, I think that's a better idea than shoes off and second hand slippers, not sexy though!

Frog you are so rotten.
I travel with my son he hasn't changed our plans. Don't know how much my parents make but my husband bought the house with his money that he has earned through hard work.
Now, I was saying that those things according to you make someone upper class. They don't!
You're really horrible and unpleasant writing things like that and judging me when you don't even know me.

Sounds like you're jealous to me. Just saying.

My mortgage is probably less then your rent. If you don't believe it that's up to you. I have no problems revealing my identity, in fact my user name used to be my name. I don't write cruel things on anyone's thread and I keep my thoughts to myself if I have nothing nice to say.
Since you're an opinionated and vulgar woman on here I presume you want your identity to remain unknown. Fine by me but don't question the integrity of my life because I have more then you and know that this still doesn't equate to class.

Jeez littlefrog is there any need to be such a douchebag? You sound like you've a monumental chip on your shoulder.

24 is a good age to have a baby actually and my fertility is at its prime. I am financially secure, in love and married so why should I be seeking the meaning to life by "back packing" I don't need that to make me happy. I have a wonderful family and friends and my husband and I go to lots of places for vacations a lot of the time.

You really have been nasty and I can't believe nobody else has called you out yet for being such a judgemental individual. You're also wrong about everything you said about class. I can't stand it when people talk like they are better then someone else. Your comment about Tesco and a mortgage are particularly cruel.

Nah I'm not jealous. Keep telling yourself that though.

Why would I be jealous of a vivid imagination?

The award goes to you today though, for the most histrionic and dramatic OTT reaction to any post.

Well done!

Makes me wonder how people get through life when they get hysterical over random people on the internet.

My mortgage is probably less then your rent. If you don't believe it that's up to you.

Oh your mortgage is less than my rent, but you said your mortgage is waaaaay higher than £175K!

PMSL, you couldn't make this up.

Please try and get your story straight hun!

It's getting a bit cringeworthy now.

Ok frog thanks for your input today. Love your positive attitude and your good manners.
Oh wait..

Ps. Good luck renting your dive of a flat and having any normal sort of relationship when you're as rude as that. I hope one of your "real middle class" friends treads dog poo through your entire home.

You're being really nasty littlefrog, that's what caused the reaction. And accusing mowgeli of lying is a low blow, there's no reason why she would lie.

You sound deeply insecure. Has your life not panned out as planned?

Littlefrog3.....I really don't think you have to be born into the middle classes, you seem to have some very strange views. People can be born very much into the lower class, but do well at school, get degrees, get fantastic jobs, travel the world and end up in very much top management in international organisations for the rest of their lives.... Are they still lower class then? I think not. I would have said the only class you can only be born into (if you call it that), is the aristocratic class

Frog you clearly don't know how a mortgage works if you think that the repayments are that big. It's £900 a month and I think you'll find that is quite normal.
I'm going to go now because you're enjoying upsetting me and being rude and I don't like it.
Like I said, you won't reveal who you are because you use the internet to be nasty. Look me up on Facebook or linkedin. You'll see exactly what I am.

Jeez littlefrog is there any need to be such a douchebag? You sound like you've a monumental chip on your shoulder.

Nah, no douchebaggery here hun. I just hate it when people look down their nose at people, bragging about their so-called fantastic lives, high salaries, extensive education, owning their own business, having their own staff and all that jazz... And yet they're always on here. Funny that innit?

Some people just need to be called out. And when you do that, they act the victim, insist they are being truthful and that you MUST be jealous, cry BULLY, and then report you for being so mean to them PMSL.

No doubt all my posts here will disappear soon.

PMSL mowgeli's mask is starting to slip. Oops!

Oh and I would't want to look you up on linkedin. Don't flatter yourself. I don't are enough about you.

Oh and I wouldn't want to look you up on linkedin. Don't flatter yourself. I don't care enough about you.

SHIT; damn phone making me miss letters out!

I'm sick today with a kidney infection. Have been in hospital for a few days. My mil had my son today and my husband is downstairs feeding him now whilst I lay in bed with a hot water bottle.

Who ever mentioned staff?
I haven't reported you. I would like other people to see how truly nasty you really are. Im not defensive. Send me a message and look me up. You are clearly jealous of me otherwise why on earth would you make it your mission to be horrible? You don't know me so what have you got against me? All I am saying is it's not a working class thing to take off shoes in the house and secondly according to you what makes someone upper middle class I am. Which I also disagree with.