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Katie Hopkins

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notanothernamechangebabes · 23/03/2017 07:42

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4340290/Truth-t-like-says-KATIE-HOPKINS.html

AIBU to think Katie Hopkins is straying closer and closer to the line that separates legitimate "right wing" politics, and unacceptable "far right" extremism?

I find this article a) utterly incoherent in its argument and b) utterly abhorrent in its content....

Yesterday's attack is deeply deeply saddening- we live in London and we're heartbroken that this has happened again- but I actually find Katie's bile almost as saddening and troubling- as I fear these are views held by many many more people... sure these are just words, and yesterday saw vile, violent actions... but those actions would have begun with words of hate and anger too...

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CoolCarrie · 23/03/2017 11:03

Well said, coocookachoo. Blanket blame

merrymouse · 23/03/2017 11:05

Africa is a place apart

And Africans still make up a sizeable part of the Christian population.

MuseumOfCurry · 23/03/2017 11:05

They dont kill people for being homosexual in the US.

Without googling, I can assure you that they are victims of violence at far higher rates than straight people. Being gay remains very difficult in certain parts of the US.

There's no doubt that the US has more 'enlightened' laws regarding homosexuality than some Eastern countries, but you're mixing up governments and religion here. There are a lot of 'Christians' that would be very pleased to inflict violence upon any number of minorities.

coocookachoo · 23/03/2017 11:07

The enlightenment didn't stop European Christian countries scrambling to grab their bit of Africa. Many extremists come from poor, post colonial North African countries.

Thugs thrive on a sense of grievance, and unfortunately Islamic terrorists have plenty of propaganda

Sorry but that is a poor excuse. Many minorities in the Middle East and Asia such as Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus are treated appallingly by the Muslim majority governments. Christian and Jewish communities that predated Islam have been completely ethnically cleansed from areas that were once multi-ethnic. I wonder why we don't see them acting on their grievances and being radicalised by this iniquity?

BillSykesDog · 23/03/2017 11:08

And many of us are old enough to remember the Christian-driven terrorism of the IRA

FFS. The IRA was never Christian driven terrorism. It was political.

egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 11:08

They dont kill people for being homosexual in the US

Do you know which countries in Africa have the death penalty and harsh punishment for being LGBT?

Clue - they aren't only Muslim majority ones.

Alyosha · 23/03/2017 11:11

There was more terror in London when I was a kid than there is now.

But people seem to have forgotten about the IRA!

squishysquirmy · 23/03/2017 11:11

Christians don't legally kill people for being homosexual in the US.
Muslims don't legally kill people for being homosexual in the US.
Because it is against the law.

However, fundamentalists from both sides have murdered people for being homosexual. And I am sure there are more from both sides who would do so if it was legal. Prejudice is not restricted to "praying for your salvation" as southall suggests.

Not that it makes any sense at all to get into an intolerance top trumps between different religions - how will that help anything?

merrymouse · 23/03/2017 11:12

200 years ago was 1817.

I think you need to brush up on your history if you think people stopped doing horrible things in the name of Christianity or any other western ideology in 1817.

Valentine2 · 23/03/2017 11:13

She is disgusting exuse of a human being most of the time. So YANBU.

Unpropergrammer · 23/03/2017 11:14

Has she ever had legitimate right wing views???

Applebite · 23/03/2017 11:14

The news is now reporting he was a British born Muslim from Birmingham.

So many of the people who side with this awful twisted ideology are second or even third generation. What's going wrong in this country that you can grow up here with all the advantages that the first world has to offer - and still hate people so much?

BillSykesDog · 23/03/2017 11:17

Do you know which countries in Africa have the death penalty and harsh punishment for being LGBT?

There isn't a Christian one with the death penalty now Uganda has backed off. It's only Muslim majority countries or perhaps in the case of Nigeria Muslim majority regions.

FrenchLavender · 23/03/2017 11:19

Completely agree with skating

merrymouse · 23/03/2017 11:20

Sorry but that is a poor excuse.

Of course it's an excuse. The point is that people don't suddenly pick up a Koran and decide to become terrorists in a vacuum.

Christian and Jewish communities that predated Islam have been completely ethnically cleansed from areas that were once multi-ethnic. I wonder why we don't see them acting on their grievances and being radicalised by this iniquity?

Probably because they live in fear in dictatorships where they have no power, not because they are taking a moral stand.

jay55 · 23/03/2017 11:22

You can be legally fired, evicted and denied a mortgage for being gay in parts of the US.

merrymouse · 23/03/2017 11:24

What's going wrong in this country that you can grow up here with all the advantages that the first world has to offer - and still hate people so much?

Probably the same reasons that make people become football hooligans or join gangs. The difference is that the religious element gives you the added bonus of believing in a cause and feeling of superiority.

egosumquisum1 · 23/03/2017 11:26

What's going wrong in this country that you can grow up here with all the advantages that the first world has to offer - and still hate people so much

I think the only person who can tell you is the person who carried out the attacks.

Lweji · 23/03/2017 11:28

The white community is blamed wholesale for slavery, racism, colonialism, Capitalism, Marxism, sexism etc etc.

Did you read what you wrote?

BakewellTart2 · 23/03/2017 11:32

Identity politics is not helping to develop a cohesive society.

Lweji · 23/03/2017 11:35

What's going wrong in this country that you can grow up here with all the advantages that the first world has to offer - and still hate people so much

Well, yes, we could ask David Copeland that.

Or Harold Shipman, Joanna Dennehy, Stephen Port, Stephen Griffiths.

Derrick Bird, anyone remember him? Responsible for the Cumbria shootings of random people?

Thomas Hamilton of the Dunblane massacre?

Good thing they were not muslim.

Eliza22 · 23/03/2017 11:39

Southall, you're right "gorilla" refers to white woman but a general terminology for white or fair person is "gora". It didn't help at the time that my sister was married to a Muslim and was in the end of all kinds of racist crap on both sides of the fence. My brother-in-laws family felt their son had let the family down very badly, marrying a white girl.

ControRed · 23/03/2017 11:39

I don't always agree with her, but sometimes I do, and I admire her gumption. It seems to me that liberals increasingly only want freedom of speech when everyone agrees with them Biscuit

Eliza22 · 23/03/2017 11:40

Grin "Gorilla"!!! Meant gori

BillSykesDog · 23/03/2017 11:41

There's a very big difference between people who attack people in a country just because they want to attack people in general and just happen to be in a country and those who want to specifically attack a country.

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