Katie Hopkins

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4340290/Truth-t-like-says-KATIE-HOPKINS.html

AIBU to think Katie Hopkins is straying closer and closer to the line that separates legitimate "right wing" politics, and unacceptable "far right" extremism?

I find this article a) utterly incoherent in its argument and b) utterly abhorrent in its content....

Yesterday's attack is deeply deeply saddening- we live in London and we're heartbroken that this has happened again- but I actually find Katie's bile almost as saddening and troubling- as I fear these are views held by many many more people... sure these are just words, and yesterday saw vile, violent actions... but those actions would have begun with words of hate and anger too...

I have no idea how old you are but while Islamic terrorism is fairly new, terrorism has been part of London life for a long, long time

And will be as long as any terrorist group wishes to spread terror in a high profile city.

But that level of intelligent analysis didn't suit Hopkins hate which is why she deliberately twisted her words and has been condemned and called out for it.

Trump is our only hope. He has vowed to wipe ISIS off the face off the earth.

ISIS were already on the way out before Trump took charge. However, the only way he is likely to get rid of a terrorist is if he falls on one playing golf.

Surely Kahn's " part and parcel" remark was unnecessary ? It seems rather pathetic for a leader.

terrorism has been part of London life for a long, long time

This is definitely the case.

I would say that it is only recent that it has been sensationalised but...Guy Fawkes? He didn't even manage to do anything and we still go on and on about the guy.

Trump is our only hope.

We're in deep shit then.

Trump has vowed many things. One of them was to drain the swamp. Have you checked how that is going? Take a look at the news.

I think Khan is right...

He's not saying he likes it but there has been terrorism in London and most major cities for hundreds of years.

I bloody hope we are not relying on trump... I'll stick with May thanks

Is there an extremist faction of the C. of E. or The Church of Scotland?

Is that what you consider Christianity in general?

*Can I just ask those people who agree with Katie 2 things?

1. What do you agree with?

2. Do you have any solutions?*

1. It's a lost cause. We can't beat them. We can only limit them up to a point as yesterday proved. It's infiltrated throughout society.

1. No. You can't turn back time. We need our real Muslims to fight back but they're as scared as us and if this is what lurks in their shadows with them, who can blame them.

Not in these churches but there are a huge variety of Christian sects in the UK.

I would say that the more extreme forms of Christianity tend to be in the states though.

We need our real Muslims to fight back

How?

They can't control mad Muslims any more than you can control any serial killer next door neighbour.

As long as terrorists exist, cities like London will be a target

Only because political correctness stops the authorities from arresting these people.

This terrorist was known to the authorities and he was previously investigated in relation to violent extremism. But nothing was done.

This is similar to Rotherham, the authorities are too scared to make arrests for fear of appearing racist.

Keanu, Khan said that in September last year and is not 'pathetic' when read in its context.

It's true though.

But the threat of terrorism has been part and parcel of London life for a long time - reporting suspect packages, missing waste paper bins - these things happens long before 9/11.

Capital cities are targets.

Equally my grandmother remembered being sent into the tube stations in the First World War.

The nature of war has changed, but
London will always and has always been a target.

www.thereligionofpeace.com/terror-2016.htm
Somebody said up thread that Islam isn't the only religion of terror. Quite so, but find me a religion in recent times who can compare to this. It's appalling.

Haven't read all 23 pages! To me, everyone is welcome in Britain, but they have to make an effort to adapt to our culture. I lived in Dubai for a while, and absolutely hated seeing Brits getting drunk and wearing skimpy clothes. To me, I was in a Muslim country and needed to respect Muslim views on modesty. If people come here, they need to accept that we are in a christian/secular country. They should accept our laws, whether regarding women's rights, gay rights or more humane ways of killing animals for meat. If they don't want to follow our laws, they can shove off. In the same way, if you don't want to obey Muslim laws, don't go to a Muslim country like Dubai. When in Rome do as the Romans do.

*This terrorist was known to the authorities and he was previously investigated in relation to violent extremism. But nothing was done.

This is similar to Rotherham, the authorities are too scared to make arrests for fear of appearing racist.*

Or, because he hadn't done anything and wasn't planning to do anything at that time (years ago) and we don't live in some kind of Minority Report universe...

Only because political correctness stops the authorities from arresting these people.

Arrest for what exactly?

*How?

They can't control mad Muslims any more than you can control any serial killer next door neighbour.*

Exactly. If anyone could get through to them it will be them, not the perceived "enemy". But it's hopeless. I work with Muslims and they shake their heads at these extremists. "Brainwashed" my colleague says.

I really feel for them because I hear the generalised diatribe against them as well, especially where I live. (7/7 bombers originated from here).

At some point the UK would need many more prisons. Imagine arresting everyone who ever screams "I'll kill you" or "I'll beat the crap out of you".

Sapphire, I heard him say it at the time and my heart sank.

Is that what you consider Christianity in general? Yes it is.

Trump is our only hope

I think that's actually the most depressing thing I've ever read.

Somebody said up thread that Islam isn't the only religion of terror. Quite so, but find me a religion in recent times who can compare to this. It's appalling.

It's more that international terrorism is a phenomenon more currently associated with Islam than with other religions or political currents.
Not that Islam caused terrorism or has ever been the only breeding ground.

This terrorist was known to the authorities and he was previously investigated in relation to violent extremism. But nothing was done. This is similar to Rotherham, the authorities are too scared to make arrests for fear of appearing racist.

One of the main problems for the security services is there's a large amount of potential 'wannabees' 99% of whom do nothing, and a few that do. Plus they have a huge amount of data from computers, chat rooms, real life networks to process. To deal with this, they create risk profiles of who is the most likely to do something awful, and to identify specific threats of terror events, and in this case, this risk assessment must have failed.

It's like if every GP treated every single person with headaches in their surgery as if they had a brain tumour and sent them to expensive scans. Soon the system would clog up, they wouldn't get the most at risk patients through quick enough and it would cost too much/not enough scanners/GPs. In a world of finite resources decisions are made on which people present the most risk; and every now and again someone slips through that process, just as every now and again someone with a brain tumour is treated as if they have migraines. It's the nature of risk assessment, but to do otherwise would be extremely costly and probably divert resources away from the very high risk cases anyway as the system ground to a halt.