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Katie Hopkins

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notanothernamechangebabes · 23/03/2017 07:42

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4340290/Truth-t-like-says-KATIE-HOPKINS.html

AIBU to think Katie Hopkins is straying closer and closer to the line that separates legitimate "right wing" politics, and unacceptable "far right" extremism?

I find this article a) utterly incoherent in its argument and b) utterly abhorrent in its content....

Yesterday's attack is deeply deeply saddening- we live in London and we're heartbroken that this has happened again- but I actually find Katie's bile almost as saddening and troubling- as I fear these are views held by many many more people... sure these are just words, and yesterday saw vile, violent actions... but those actions would have begun with words of hate and anger too...

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SapphireStrange · 23/03/2017 15:52

Off the top of my head: he was on LBC recently defending the comments he'd made about not hearing any English spoken on the train 'for several stops'. It's worth a listen if you can stand his face and voice

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 15:57

Them continuing to debate in hollyrood yesterday after the incidents unfolded at Westminster?

After they finally decided to call it a day after many requests by the pro union mps to stop out of respect Roseanna Cunningham turned to the tories and accused them of a conspiracy against the scots and that they just didn't want to discuss independence.

Nice.

Their own poet lauded by the snp hugh mcdairmid said "London is burning and I don't care" during the Blitz

Roseanna comments yesterday said it all.

Lweji · 23/03/2017 15:59

Being "black" is not a race either lots of different origins of "black" people.

Notice that I used "considered".

There are no human races. :)

ToastDemon · 23/03/2017 16:00

Judging by your username you have a bit of an agenda to be fair Grin
Hugh McDairmid is the grandfather of a friend of mine. Random factoid.

BillSykesDog · 23/03/2017 16:00

It's still seen as a sin for Catholicism.

Homosexuality is considered a sin because the present day Catholic Church says it is. If the Pope said tomorrow it wasn't a sin it wouldn't be a sin anymore.

It's flexible, it changes. Like the Catholic position on Limbo which they've now said doesn't exist despite saying it did for thousands. Very little is set in stone for Christianity except for general principles like forgiveness and repentance.

That's not the case for Islam. The Koran says homosexuality is a sin so it is and will always stay a sin unless there is a reformation of Islam which discards the Koran's infallibility and that is highly unlikely.

It's only the ambiguous parts of the Koran which are subject to interpretation in the modern world. And even that is restricted to what the existing words can plausibly be argued to say - not disregarded completely.

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:02

It mus have been nice having a friend with a fascist grandfather

ToastDemon · 23/03/2017 16:03

It's lovely thanks Smile I'll send him your regards.

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:05

And it depends on your interpretation but there are many many of their politicians who support the IRA

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:07

Arthur Donaldson was also a belter founder of SNP who tried to set up puppet Nazi government

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Donaldson

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:07

What were you saying about Nigel Farage?

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:14

Off the top of my head: he was on LBC recently defending the comments he'd made about not hearing any English spoken on the train 'for several stops'. It's worth a listen if you can stand his face and voice

Perhaps an observation. Not one likely to be made in scotland yet.

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:17

So actually I would argue

SNP=BNP with more power and a different target.

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:17

And many many more followers

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:20

David starsky had it spot on when he said it too.

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:20

So did Saddiq Khan

Lweji · 23/03/2017 16:23

Homosexuality is considered a sin because the present day Catholic Church says it is. If the Pope said tomorrow it wasn't a sin it wouldn't be a sin anymore.

And why does the Pope says it is?

The Limbo was not mentioned in the Bible, however.

Sodomy (which is what the Quranconsiders sin, not homosexuality) has been considered a sin throughout the jewish/christian/islamic tradition.

merrymouse · 23/03/2017 16:27

www.google.co.uk/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/99505550/

This is the kind of person that becomes a terrorist. He difference between him and p

derxa · 23/03/2017 16:28

SNP=BNP with more power and a different target. Grin

merrymouse · 23/03/2017 16:29

People who join Isis is just accidents of history and geography.

Count2three · 23/03/2017 16:30

There are distinctions between Christianity and Islam. Christianity has a hierarchical structure and has also undergone a reformation. The New Testament was a new covenant and they tend not to pay attention to all the nastiness of the Old Testament. Notice there has been an absence of crusades recently? The reformation saw that it needed to change. We tend to not see Christians invading other countries in the name of religion any more. The bible is also largely seen as the inspired word of God.

Islam is the final revelation, it supersedes all other religions. It is the perfect, divine word of God and there shall be no challenging of the perfect Koran. There is some nasty stuff in there and Muhammad was a war lord. Extremists follow it to the T. Isis take the Koran absolutely literally, believing themselves to be the only true Muslims. They reject more tolerant minorities, such as the Ahmadi's, as infidels. There has been no reformation and there is no recognised hierarchical structure to offer authoritative rules to govern Muslims. There has also been no reformation. This is desperately needed and it needs to come from the more moderate Muslims. But the more dangerous elements of Islam, such as Jihad, is a central tenant of the perfect religion.

BigChocFrenzy · 23/03/2017 16:31

Ridiculous idiotic comparson, SNP / BNP
A centre-left party whose leader welcomed immigrants the day after the Brexit ref.
Who gets by far the largest number of votes in Scotland

Vs a tiny lunatic fringe BNP, who are anti-semitic and openly racist, packed with holocaust deniers and Hitler apologists
Or UKIP (BNP in blazers) Farage, who referred to Obama as "this thing"

But carry on like that.
If you really want the Scottish people to feel threatened and vote Indy2, then carry right on

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:33

merrymouse-People who join Isis is just accidents of history and geography

This

nikelarsedstirgin · 23/03/2017 16:38

Ridiculous idiotic comparson, SNP / BNP
A centre-left party whose leader welcomed immigrants the day after the Brexit ref.
Who gets by far the largest number of votes in Scotland

So still fascist towards english people, but more popular to it is ok. (They can't get immigrants to come)

Vs a tiny lunatic fringe BNP, who are anti-semitic and openly racist, packed with holocaust deniers and Hitler apologists
Or UKIP (BNP in blazers) Farage, who referred to Obama as "this thing"

So the same but smaller.

But carry on like that. If you really want the Scottish people to feel threatened and vote Indy2, then carry right on

Was rather hoping that they would take a look at who and what they were voting for, rather than feeling threatened.

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