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shooting outside parliament

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Itisnoteasybeingdifferent · 22/03/2017 15:07

Breaking on the Huff and Beeb

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RJnomore1 · 22/03/2017 18:13

Aw sorry I've got confused with the school children who were in parliament getting moved to Westminster abbey. My mistake.

Helenluvsrob · 22/03/2017 18:15

4 dead. How awful. Just awful.

Just read BBC. Muslim council of Britain has released a statement condemning the attack. I do hope this act of hate doesn't stir up more race hatred here, this issue is not Islam its extremism. We can condemn that in all its guises.

Theimpossiblegirl · 22/03/2017 18:21

BillSykes, there are 2 groups of school children, the French children on the bridge, about whom we know very little, and a group of primary children who happened to be visiting the houses of parliament at the time, all safe and well.

ButterflyFree · 22/03/2017 18:28

No official sources have said anything about it being Islamic terrorism yet though so don't jump to any conclusions @Helenluvsrob & others...

Some reports say the attacker was Asian, some say there were 2 attackers; one white and one black. Nothing mentioned in official statements or on news outlets about religion (yet), because how could anyone know at this stage.

Targeting parliament specifically could mean a totally different motive behind it; could be connected to Brexit, or quite frankly absolutely anything else. There are many people who have anger issues towards parliament for whatever reason.

Simply because it has been categorised as a 'terror incident' doesn't mean the attacker is/was claiming to be Muslim. Remember the IRA carried out terror attacks too and that's nothing to do with Islam. Too many people have been conditioned to believe 'terror' automatically means 'radical Islam'.

Doyouwantabrew · 22/03/2017 18:30

Those poor French teenagers I think 2 are critical.

My dd was very badly injured in France a few years ago with her school friends and the French authorities and emergency services were awesome.

It's times like this we need our neighbours ans friends in Europe.

Why the fuck are we leaving? I know not the time or place but still!!

Thoughts and prayers to all involved.

ButterflyFree · 22/03/2017 18:31

By the way @Helenluvsrob I'm not criticising your post in any way at all and I agree with you that I hope it doesn't incite any further racial/religious hate crimes. Just simply pointing out that I haven't seen it reported anywhere so far that it has been claimed by any radical Islamic extremist

user1487450864 · 22/03/2017 18:32

BREAKING UPDATE: Reports name the Westminster terrorist suspect as hate preacher Abu Izzadeen (Trevor Brooks) from Clapton in Hackney

Just posting although this hasn't been confirmed

Doyouwantabrew · 22/03/2017 18:33

Butterfly even if these attackers call themselves Muslims this is nothing to go with Islam and nothing to go with Muslim religion.

The IRA terrorists were not Catholics and the UDA were not protestsnts.

True religious people arnt killers.

The phrase 'radical Islam' is nonsense. There's no such thing.

No religious person is a terrorist it's an insult to all religions to mention it.

Doyouwantabrew · 22/03/2017 18:34

But I obviously see your points

PortiaCastis · 22/03/2017 18:36

I think we shouldn't post things unless they're confirmed

ButterflyFree · 22/03/2017 18:38

@Doyouwantabrew I completely agree with you. Perhaps I worded it clumsily; of course I know anyone who is capable of perpetrating such heinous acts is not a actually religious. There are no religions which encourage or tolerate such behaviour. These vile excuses for human beings who carry out acts of terror and violence in the name of a religion are sick and misguided.

I'm Muslim by the way :)

user1487450864 · 22/03/2017 18:39

Portia - people have been posting unconfirmed reports all day.

I make it very clear that is unconfirmed (although many outlets are now reporting it )

user1487450864 · 22/03/2017 18:40

Copied and pasted - not from me

Numerous outlets now reporting suspect is Abu Izzadeen. Hate preacher who openly stated his wish to commit terror.

PortiaCastis · 22/03/2017 18:43

Well I'll believe it when the beeb report it

Count2three · 22/03/2017 18:47

doyouwantabrew Islamists, or extremists, follow Islam literally. It has everything to do with Islam and religion. Have you not listened to what they have been telling us?

Derlei · 22/03/2017 18:51

If it is abu izzadeen, then he's black not Asian, but once again the gutter press (Mail etc) have already all jumped on the "apparently he looked Asian" within their headlines.

Backingvocals · 22/03/2017 18:53

I know it's more comfortable for religious people to argue that these people are not religious but they think they are and their internal logic is consistent with extremist belief. Some religious people are vile just like some non religious people.

Namechangernancy · 22/03/2017 18:54

Where is Theresa may ??? She should be releasing her own statement to the country not getting someone to do it for her
Showing her true colours now Hmm

user1487450864 · 22/03/2017 18:54

She is in a Cobra meeting

myoriginal3 · 22/03/2017 18:55

TM is in a cobra meeting at the moment.

PortiaCastis · 22/03/2017 18:55

TM is in a cobra meeting

Count2three · 22/03/2017 18:56

Butterfly You're correct of course, it's not yet been confirmed as Islamic terrorism; more likely to be those angry C of E's or the notoriously intorant Hindus. Hmm

originalbiglymavis · 22/03/2017 18:57

I have my own thoughts on the type of person it will turn out to be. The ignorant convert who knows nothing and is/was a useless nobody and was sold lies.

A tool in the hands of the real bastards who sit back and drip their poison into the weak and feable minded.

Count2three · 22/03/2017 18:58

*intolerant.

originalbiglymavis · 22/03/2017 18:58

No tweet from Trump?