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to feel annoyed my sister is better off on benefits and handouts

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GoingSlowly · 20/03/2017 17:27

I am close with my sister and love her to bits. She is a single Mum and I know she has a hard time bringing up the children alone much of the time. She always acts as if she is financially much worse off than we are and has an "it's OK for you" attitude when it comes to money. So, since she split with her ex, I've always believed she had a lower income than us, and make allowances for her financially (paying more than half for meals out, etc). My family all treat her as if she is skint all the time and always pay for stuff for her.

I therefore felt annoyed when I found out recently how much she is bringing in each month, she is MUCH better off now than when she was with her ex (who has a low income), mainly due to the benefit payment she receives. Her income is more than ours. I am actually quite astonished.

We are a middle income family and do OK but it feels as if we are always scrimping and saving. My sister, on the other hand, is quite wasteful with money. She wastes a lot on food - buys expensive food/treats and ends up throwing a lot away. She books expensives holidays for the family (like cruises and trips to Disney Land in Florida), then moans she can't afford it and the family stump up the extra cash. We go camping in the UK each year and family do not help. She also 'treats' herself A LOT - clothes, shoes, bags, spa trips, etc. In contrast out life is quite frugal, but I've always thought it was because we try to save money, and she chooses not to.

It's not that her income is more - it's the fact that she acts as if she is the poor relation, and that the family constantly props her up. The reality is that by paying for her holidays, buying her a car, filling her car with petrol, etc, my parents are almost 'rewarding' her for being crap with money. They do not help us at all, even though we actually have less income???

OP posts:
TrinityForce · 20/03/2017 18:34

Where do people get the idea to begin with that 'benefits' is plenty of money for 10k holidays each year?

It's clearly not and anyone with half a brain knows it, so what gives them that idea?

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 20/03/2017 18:37

So it's the handouts from your parents that you're pissed off with OP? Because the fact she's claiming benefits that she is legally entitled to isn't relevant. At all. If she was fiddling the system it would be, but she's not. Take it up with your parents if it bothers you that much.
Disneyland is easily a £10k holiday, it's only just within our reach since DP started his new much better job. The benefits bashing is unnecessary, it's the fact she's sponging off your parents which is annoying you.

SchnitzelVonCrumb · 20/03/2017 18:49

Is the benefit debate a huge topic in the U.K.?

I don't see OP slagging off people on benefits at all, she is upset that her sister is propped up by her parents and taking money off the OP for meals etc all the while earning more than the OP.

That would piss me right off.

I think people are getting away from the core issue and arguing about something that is very topical and heated.

Concernedmum4567 · 20/03/2017 18:51

Saor- how in God's earth is disneyland a 10k holiday? Where did you get that idea from?

Alfieisnoisy · 20/03/2017 18:51

The OP has already clarified that she wishes she hadn't put benefits in the title...she has also said that it's the fact her sister plays the poverty card when in fact she is just crap with money.

BhajiAllTheWay · 20/03/2017 18:51

When I was single on a low part time wage with tax credits I have to say I was better off financially than previous with my partner. I know the issue is that family help out here but we went on some great all inclusive holidays abroad so it's not impossible if you are careful with money even without family subsidising.

PortiaCastis · 20/03/2017 18:53

I was careful with my pittance but still couldn't afford holidays

WafflingVersatile · 20/03/2017 18:54

Out of curiosity, what state pension can someone who has been on benefits all their life get? What do they do for money at 69?

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 20/03/2017 18:57

From looking at flights, hotels, park tickets, food, spending money etc for a family of 5 (which is what we are).

OreoDream · 20/03/2017 18:57

SchnitzelVonCrumb

Yes, it's a pretty big deal in the U.K.

On the one hand, the Daily Mail and the Tories who are obsessed with the idea that everyone on benefits is a work shy freeloader, on the other hand lots of struggling families being denied benefits and declared fit to work despite crippling illness.

unlimiteddilutingjuice · 20/03/2017 18:59

I must be some kind of freak because I work in welfare rights and have looked in detail at hundreds of people's entitlement; and every time I have met someone with more disposable income than me I have felt happy for them.

It used to happen very occasionally when my housing costs were quite high and generally involved people with lots if dependents and some nasty disabilities.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 20/03/2017 19:01

We're not going to Disneyland I should say because it's just too much to justify for a week, but it doesn't change the fact it's a bloody expensive holiday

MyGastIsFlabbered · 20/03/2017 19:01

I'm a single mum and I cry so often because I can't afford to give my kids treats. Yes I get benefits but I also pay a fucking lot of money in rent because my scumbag ex won't get out of the marital home. Being a single parent is hands down exhausting. Can't we all have some compassion for each other rather than the usual benefits bashing that people who, frankly don't have a tucking clue what it's like, seem to enjoy doing?

ChaiTeaTeddy · 20/03/2017 19:02

I think your sister is sleeping with men for money to pay for the Disney trips. That's the only explanation for it.

MycatsaPirate · 20/03/2017 19:03

Well she's not better off than you on benefits is she?

She's better off because a) she's working and gets top ups in tax credits. b) she gets maintenance FOR HER CHILDREN and c) your parents are gullible fuckers who just keep handing her cash.

So what the fuck is your point again?

You are jealous of your sister being a single parent and all the grief that it entails? Or are you jealous because you are 'hard working tax payers' supporting those getting the handouts?

Just give it a rest. We are on benefits at the moment and get fuck all really. Tax credits and I get my PIP. About £600 a month because we aren't eligible for anything else (and we aren't so please don't start giving me links to stuff - I know we aren't).

Clearly your sister and her children are entitled to that money which will also include her housing benefit and council tax benefit.

Toobloodytired · 20/03/2017 19:10

This woman doesn't force her family to "bail" her out! They do it because they wants too.

Fact is like a PP said, if how much she gets annoys you so much then by all means, claim what she does, earn what she does & get your husband to pay you what she gets.....don't bitch about it!

Oh & in reply to a PP who said about her sister who was getting more than her working full time.

YOU LIVED AT HOME!
NO KIDS!
NO BILLS!

I'm sorry but don't expect people raising children on benefits to simply scrape by & struggle! If the government stripped money back that far so employed single people would be happy....you'd all start bitching that the country isn't looking after their people.

PIPE DOWN

PortiaCastis · 20/03/2017 19:11

Flowers Mycats
Sorry you're having a bad time are you ok?

Concernedmum4567 · 20/03/2017 19:12

Saor was that disneyland or Disney world?
World being in florida land being in Paris.

Beachedwh4le · 20/03/2017 19:12

The OP isn't slagging off single people on benefits! Stop peddling your indignity where it's not warranted

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 20/03/2017 19:15

Sorry I got mixed up, I meant the one in Orlando.

KindDogsTail · 20/03/2017 19:17

I think Nicpem's post is helpful Going.

Nicpem1982 · 20/03/2017 19:21

Too bloody tired:

"Oh & in reply to a PP who said about her sister who was getting more than her working full time.

YOU LIVED AT HOME!
NO KIDS!
NO BILLS!"

That was my post and Just because I was living at home and had no kids and no bills doesn't mean that I should have to prop my sister up when she was wasting her money on essentially crap and not buying her kids the necessities

BhajiAllTheWay · 20/03/2017 19:24

Depends on outgoings too. I was better off but had no mortgage/ rent and no debt. If I'd had to pay those Then there's no way We'd have afforded the holidays we had.

gamerwidow · 20/03/2017 19:31

Maybe she doesn't force the family to bail her out but it's very hard to say no when someone is pleading the poverty card and cant pay the bills even when you know it's their shit money management rather than low income that's brought them there. It's not fair to take advantage of your family in that way.
Admittedly I'm projecting a bit having spent £1000s of pounds bailing my sister out of trouble over the years.

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