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To think that this girl deserves some help to pay for her mother's funer

164 replies

insancerre · 19/03/2017 14:41

This is so sad
m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10155916416985898&substory_index=0&id=67764650897
Her mum died and she can't get the ashes until she's paid off the funeral debt
Can anyone help her with her fundraising?

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ImFuckingSpartacus · 19/03/2017 15:22

Nobodies leaping anywhere, merely commenting that your advice is not particular useful to many people. Is there some reason I should not say so>

lavenderandrose · 19/03/2017 15:24

It wasn't advice, Spartacus. You are sounding a little belligerent towards me, you know.

ImFuckingSpartacus · 19/03/2017 15:26

It was advice, clearly. And you're sounding very defensive and oddly bothered by a simple question.

Better to return to the thread at hand, don't you think?

lavenderandrose · 19/03/2017 15:27

I am a tiny bit bothered by it because you're being quite rude to me and really it isn't necessary :)

ImperialBlether · 19/03/2017 15:31

Just in case people don't know, if you are a member of the Co-op (just sign up, no cost) then you get a big discount on funerals, if you use Co-op Funeral Service.

When my dad died we used Co-op and my sister had a membership card, so got £250 off. It's well worth signing up.

Here.

cochineal7 · 19/03/2017 15:32

Terrible story, poor girl. How can it be legal to withhold the ashes?? You would hardly think human remains can be collateral for a debt. They could easily give her the ashes and enter into a doable payment plan with her, especially since she clearly is of a mind to pay, having used her savings already to pay more than half.

TheFirstMrsDV · 19/03/2017 15:38

Part of my job is to help parents find the money to pay for their children's funerals.
Even though many Funeral Directors do not charge and there is a Funeral Grant, many are left with costs they cannot afford. I am talking about basic, simple funerals.

It costs 2k for a burial plot. This has to be paid upfront so even if the grant covered it (it doesn't) the parents would have to find the money.

At least there is some concession for children's funerals. There is none for adults, however young, whatever the situation. Its a bloody shame.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 19/03/2017 15:42

Should all funerals not be free. Making money out of death and grief. I'm not sure the God I speak and pray to would be thrilled about that.
Nuns. This is an 18 year old girl. Who has just lost her mum. And Whatever you think about her mother not having saved for her own funeral. Is that any fault of the daughter's. A lot of people can just about live. Let alone put money away for their death.
You say only the rich are allowed to breed. Well let's not forget anything can happen. The rich can be come poor and the poor can become rich, and these things can happen over night.
I wouldn't be too smug if I were you.
Good old karma can pounce at anytime.
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insancerre · 19/03/2017 15:45

She now has £410 you lovely people
I hope she gets enough to get the necklace made from her mums ashes too

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Zaphodsotherhead · 19/03/2017 15:46

A lot of jobs have a 'death in service' grant - if I die tomorrow my work will pay a year's salary to my next of kin to cover my funeral costs. It's the only way we could afford a funeral, I can't even afford insurance (was rich, now poor. Blame buggering off men).

YBR · 19/03/2017 15:53

A similar thing happened to a friend of mine many years ago when we were both at Uni. She had no access to any benefits as a student, and as her parents had separated was the closest relative. Additionally we were not permitted to work during terms, could not stay in the college accommodation in the holidays. She could not go back to her mother's as Mum is disabled and on benefits; if she went home and worked mum lost her benefits but her mum's benefits would not "keep" both of them.

Fortunately for her we had a Senior Tutor who loved a challenge and worked really hard to find her a grant fund who made it possible for her to stay. Didn't have internet and crowd funding option then.

Florrick · 19/03/2017 15:53

I wonder where this girls father is - he may be estranged from her mother but surely he wouldn't see his daughter in this situation.

Gingerbreadmam · 19/03/2017 15:58

it's heartbreaking. We lost my dps dm two years ago. she was single and on benefits and we were all skint. No savings and debt. We were declined any help from the gorvernment. Fortunately her family rallied round and paid the 3k plus funeral costs.

Our son was stillborn a week after her funeral. His funeral never cosy a penny (thank god) but headstones are expensive and it was very stressful wondering whether we would be able to afford one for him. The only mark he would have left on the earth apart from our broken hearts. Sad that the cost of these are extortionate.

Ni58 · 19/03/2017 16:00

Donated - poor girl.

insancerre · 19/03/2017 16:00

Gingerbreadmam 💐

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MyNunsMet · 19/03/2017 16:05

I'm not sure the God I speak and pray to would be thrilled about that.

The one thing we can be sure about is that the god you talk to is a fictitious one and people who hear voices need professional help.

You say only the rich are allowed to breed.

No, I said rich enough to provide for your children. That takes a certain amount of money but you don't have to be rich.

Well let's not forget anything can happen. The rich can be come poor and the poor can become rich*

I said I think that responsible parents take reasonable provisions. Not provide for every imaginable situation.

I wouldn't be too smug if I were you. Good old karma can pounce at anytime.

I don't feel smug. I feel sorry for the girl. That's why I donated some money and feel for her. My karma has balanced my good luck with her bad luck I think.

daisychain01 · 19/03/2017 16:10

Breaking news, you don't need to save in a funeral plan for your eventual funeral. So you don't need to commit to a funeral company, just find a good savings deal and set it aside for that purpose.

I set my DM up with a National Savings and Investment bond, in her name, as it was a special just for over 65s, on a good rate of interest. Her funeral will be paid for, she doesn't have to worry.

Slavo1981 · 19/03/2017 16:16

Just to add , her family have helped out as I have , she was made homeless via all this and I have took her in , I don't expect her to pay rent nor for her food I will help and provide her as a mum , she is my sons girlfriend, her family as helped where can but there is not a lot living close relatives and the only one that is is very old and poorly herself ,
Her mum was not a irresponsible parent by no means , she struggled for money as was poorly , and couldn't work , she made sure jade wanted for nothing , fed clothed and supported her , the day she had her first heart attack she didn't even worry jade by telling her , she wouldn't even call 999 as she thought was just bad indigestion, she walked to the hospital to be told had her first heart attack , she still did not want to bother anyone , she was in the process of sorting out funeral ins an opened a savings but before got any money in or started the plan she passed away suddenly in the middle of town , she didn't want to leave jade with all this let alone die and leave her daughter , I was there the day it happened and got the phone call from hospital to say had died , to see a 18 year old get that call was heart wrenching and I still remember her scream , so less of the judging and more supporting please ,

Slavo1981 · 19/03/2017 16:18

www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/con-jad-1

Slavo1981 · 19/03/2017 16:20

Gingerbreadman 😢🌹

AgathaMystery · 19/03/2017 16:21

I have donated. I hope she goes on to complete her studies and I hope she manages to leave Blackpool.

Slavo1981 · 19/03/2017 16:26

Thanks for donations everyone jade wants to say thanks too , and she doesn't want To leave blackpool as it's not all money stricken and deprived , there ar bad areas as all towns but where We live and a few my friends is very quiet and nice , wouldn't think it's blackpool, so again please less judging ect and more support she needs, again thank you and she is overwhelmed with your help x

insancerre · 19/03/2017 16:30

Tell Jade they only thing we want for her is to finish her studies so she can afford to live in the nice part of town
And tell her that I'm sure her mum would be very proud of her

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ImperialBlether · 19/03/2017 16:30

Slavo1981, are you the OP?

alltouchedout · 19/03/2017 16:30

You should ensure you can afford basic needs (rent) can be met before getting pregnant. You should also make provision for your children.
Circumstances change. You may be financially secure pre children and then end up impoverished later on. You cannot predict the future.

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