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To want to have my wedding my way, not MILs

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Pembilton · 09/03/2017 15:55

Ok so I need to rant so apologies for the long post.

Basically my partner (28) and I (25) are getting married this summer and according to MIL every little thing that we've done since is wrong and somehow suggests that we don't love each other and the marriage is doomed to failure.

Our "proposal" went something like this:
(On the way home from a friend's wedding)
Him: That'll be us someday...
Me: (smiling) yeah
Him: Someday soon?
Me: Okay
Him: (couple of mins later)...Are we engaged?
Me: Yeah (kiss)

That evening he asked if I wanted to go with him ring shopping or if I wanted him to chose. I told him I really didn't want a ring (I think it's an outdated tradition, I would have to take it off for my job everyday anyway, our finances aren't fantastic, I'm not a fan of diamonds etc.) Evidently not the response he was expecting and he was a bit surprised but agreed. A couple of weeks later he surprised me with an antique 1st edition book from my favourite author with a lovely message from him inside. It's beautiful and perfect and my most treasured possession.

We told people the next day. My parents were over the moon, they really like him and they're normal human beings. MIL gave partner a really hard time for not proposing "properly" and kept going on about how disappointed she was that there were no photos (of what? we were on a train and obviously no ring or anything!). I was really annoyed on his behalf. Then she had a go at me for not wanting a ring suggesting I had some reason for wanting to keep the engagement secret. She then said even if I didn't want a new ring I should wear something on that finger so people "knew I was taken". I'm not sure if I should be offended or complimented by her belief in my appeal to the opposite sex! Anyway we all moved on aside from the occasional "they're engaged, not that you'd know it... she doesn't want a ring apparently..."

So we knew we wanted to get married soon and wanted a nice honeymoon (it was the middle of winter!), but neither of us were that fussed about the big white wedding so it was an easy decision to have a smaller, cheaper wedding and spend on a holiday. My parents offered to give us some money towards it but I graciously refused as we've both been working for some time, have our own savings etc. MIL never offered any money which is absolutely fine as we wouldn't expect it or have accepted anyway but she then took umbrage with our plans. "If you can't afford to do it properly now wait until you can" etc. Great, but I want to be married asap not have a wedding and tonne of debt some time in the distant future.

So wedding plans currently: 28 guests of family and close friends (16 for me, 12 for him), intimate secular wedding ceremony in a pretty location, private room for nice meal in a fancy restaurant and then booked a couple of booths at a trendy nightclub we both know and love for whoever wants to party with us afterwards. Dress code smart casual for us all (clothes we can re-wear yay!). Mum's already told me she's still going to wear a fascinator because she's mother of the bride and no one can stop her and dad wants me to make sure the club will take requests so he can dance with me to "our" song (we danced to it at my 16th). This is exactly the reaction I wanted and shows how it can be simple and quirky and still work for us. Obviously MIL is a different story and to be honest I've been leaving DP deal with her over most of it but I know she's thoroughly disapproving.

Most recent development has been over speeches. In short I really, really don't want them. I've never been to a wedding where they didn't make me feel awkward and uncomfortable. Not that they were dreadfully bad or anything I'm just a bit weird that way (I hate stand-up comedy too)! I hadn't even really thought about them until DP was talking about how he was dreading it. He was very happy to knock the whole thing on the head and so was my dad. Bearing in mind it's just a group of us sat around one table as opposed to a big hall anyway I really don't think we need them. I imagine my dad will probably lead a toast or something and obviously we'll say a quick thank you but really with so few guests everyone knows how special they are to us and we'll be able to go round and talk to/ thank everyone individually anyway.

So just got off the phone to MIL who had just found out that her son wouldn't be giving a speech. She was crying, telling me I'm ruining her sons wedding and clearly don't want to be getting married. I reassured her that I did, that I love her son more than anyone else in the world, that we were both planning the wedding that would be right for us together. I tried to find out why it all bothers her so much but all she seemed to say was that I was being a fool and I'd look back on this one day and regret it. I somehow ended up apologising for not running the details re speeches etc past her earlier (!) but at this stage I'd do anything for her to just let us do what we want.

To be honest I think she might have more of a problem with me than the wedding but I don't know why. We had a good relationship up to all this, I really love her son and I'm a nice person I promise! It's just really getting me down and although I'd never act on it it's getting so that I don't really want her there as I'm going to feel like she's just finding fault with everything! Ugh!

Obviously DP and I have spoken about this lots. He's completely happy with the wedding we've planned and very excited about it (he's even making some distressed wood flower planter things for our table decorations

OP posts:
Dormouse200 · 10/03/2017 12:54

Ah well it was a thought! I always recommend people get someone officially taking pics as I had no idea how much photos would mean until I got the CD back.

Your friend and sister sound wonderful. I hope you have a lovely wedding and a long and happy marriage.

razzledazzel · 10/03/2017 12:56

It's your wedding do it your way. She's had hers how she wanted it, don't let her ruin yours.

SquidgeyMidgey · 10/03/2017 17:31

Sod her, your wedding is the start of your marriage not a grandstand event. Have it your way as you are the bride.

She sounds like she has control issues and likes a bit of emotional blackmail. Don't capitulate now or she will expect it your entire married life.

DiddysMammy · 10/03/2017 17:49

Christ she sounds like my MIL (who I live with ATM)

Tell the old dragon to go get fucked. Not her wedding not her choice!

ontheedgeofthecliff · 10/03/2017 17:49

Just a word of sympathy for the MIL. Whilst I agree with LOTS of what people are saying, my DH was the only son of a separated marriage and my MIL was hateful, really precious about him and really mean to me for about 10 years. But to your MIL to be, your wedding is turning all her dreams on their head and you are being very stubborn and self indulgent, and that fills her full of fear about what her future relationship will be with her son. Maybe just sit her down and acknowledge that it's a very modern relationship, and ask if there is one thing you would be prepared to compromise on, what would it be? I bet she asks to change nothing, she just wants a recognition that she is (sort of) still important in her son's life.

starbucksaholic · 10/03/2017 17:55

Ah. MIL has been dreaming of DS wedding since he was born. Now the exact opposite of that dream is happening - indeed, it's her nightmare! On top of that, she's realised that she is losing her son to you - FOR EVER!! You will be number 1, top dog/cat, and her power over DS is fast waning ... aaargh!
Oh well, her problem not yours. Don't lose any sleep over it.
I had similar : " have your wedding at our country house" (NO THANK YOU) " why don't you have the photographer that our DD had " (NO THANK YOU) " I haven't met the vicar yet?" ( WELL WHY WOULD YOU?? but they went to meet him anyway when we weren't around ) " OMG go away.
Put your mark in the sand now and don't worry about it. He is marrying YOU.

pollymere · 10/03/2017 17:59

My parents used to do pre marriage classes. My Mum was forever telling people that it's their day and no one else's. My best friend eloped after her parents started controlling her day. My MIL wanted to invite extra people etc. You just need to be polite yet very firm. My FIL ended up being the only member of the wedding party not in morning dress and he looked totally out of place which was a shame. Your wedding sounds perfect to me, unfortunately your in laws do not. My issues did cause tension between myself and my now dh but if he needs to tell them that it's your wedding and not theirs, then I suspect he will have to just get on with that.

Mousie38 · 10/03/2017 18:00

God this sounds like a gorgeous wedding! When I got married the first time, my mother didn't like my partner so said she wasn't coming to the wedding....we called her bluff and my parents didn't come although the rest of my family did and had a wonderful time....As it turns out she was right but that's another story. It didn't spoil the day at all much to her disappointment.

When I married my now, lovely, husband we decided to get married abroad just the 2 of us so nobody could try and spoil our day and she actually said 'but I was looking forward to your wedding'.....cheeky cow.

Just enjoy YOUR day... xx

ThatWhiteElephant · 10/03/2017 18:01

Your MIL sounds completely obsessed with her wedding, sorry, her son's wedding!! (Nothing to do with you in her eyes!)
Your plans sound great and I'm sure your wedding will be fabulous

shovetheholly · 10/03/2017 18:02

"But to your MIL to be, your wedding is turning all her dreams on their head and you are being very stubborn and self indulgent, and that fills her full of fear about what her future relationship will be with her son. Maybe just sit her down and acknowledge that it's a very modern relationship, and ask if there is one thing you would be prepared to compromise on, what would it be? I bet she asks to change nothing, she just wants a recognition that she is (sort of) still important in her son's life."

Or just give her the complete works of Freud and the name of a good analyst, and then tell her where to go.

2ndstreet · 10/03/2017 18:02

Your wedding sounds amazing and perfect for you and your partner. I think the best thing is just to ignore your mil and focus on your day. I'm getting married in a couple of months and my dad (and dm less vocally) are refusing to get involved, he even said 'I don't think it's appropriate for me to give you away' - fortunately my dp, ds & I had already discussed this and my ds is going to walk me down the aisle. Anyway the point is it's nice if family are on board but not essential all that really matters is that you & your dp have the day you want and can look back on it as being the way you wanted. Enjoy every minute of it and ignore any one that is't happy for you.

Shona52 · 10/03/2017 18:03

Poor you OP I really feel for you both as your plans for day sounds lovely. Love your engagement present shows he really knows you and it's something very special.

You MIL has set ideas about things. Maybe she had it and it made her very happy. Or she didn't have it and regrets it. Or maybe it's just so she can show face with friends. But she needs to learn it's you and your do big day and it's what makes you both happy. But good luck

piggypoo · 10/03/2017 18:13

Ignore your MIL, mine was the same, she even said to me that it was a good job we were not having a church wedding, as I wasn't good enough to get married in church, (she thought the fact I wear red lipstick was "fast") My DH told her she was an old trout and basically, that she could go get stuffed. It was our wedding and we'd do things our way. As soon as we let her knew where she stood, this amazing weight was lifted off our shoulders.

cabbage67 · 10/03/2017 18:14

Just wanted to say that your day sounds absolutely lovely.

Stick to your guns

keffie12 · 10/03/2017 18:17

It's your wedding. Its none her business especially as you are paying for it. I have 3 sons and 1 daughter. When our eldest son got married last year and DiL was planning the wedding I told her ''it's your day. If you want me to do anything let me know, if not that's fine too.

I will just happily shop for my outfit'' which I did. I am a hands off MiL which is the way MiL's should be and Mom's for that fact too, if they are interfering.

What was her wedding day like? Is she trying to create what she didn't have. Is it about bragging rights on her part? It doesn't matter. It isn't her business. Leave your DP to deal with her. She sounds a nightmare. I doubt it is to do with you. It's to do with her expectations and control issues

welshmist · 10/03/2017 18:20

omg as a MIL myself, tis your decision as we told both our children when they got engaged. Have your wedding exactly as you want it to be.

DagenhamRoundhouse · 10/03/2017 18:20

I married my DH 9 weeks after we met. We booked the register office (got a cancellation), I wore a suit from Wallis, he wore a work suit, we went to M&S and Asda the night before to buy food and a cake and did our own buffet. We only told our parents the week before and said we hoped they could come! We travelled to the register office together in his MG Maestro. This was 26 years ago and I've never regretted a moment.

Weddings are personal to the two people getting married, it makes me furious to hear about the interference and expectations of others.
Do what you want.

mumto2two · 10/03/2017 18:28

Of course OP...this is HER big day..and you..the pending bride.. are just a consequential prop! Unfortunately..for reasons I will never fathom, that is how it is with some MILs. And the pattern will continue when the GCs arrive. They will be HERS..and you can bank on a whole lot more aggro to come.
My first MIL was wonderfully happy but respectfully complacent..as for MIL no. 2.. let's not go there Wink
As previous poster has just said..get the boundaries set now, and your relationship with her will be all the better for it. Good luck!

kimann · 10/03/2017 18:41

Sounds like she's super old school - my mum nags me to put 'something' on my finger to show everyone I'm taken, I have an engagement ring and a wedding ring - I just don't do jewellery unless it's a special occasion.

oldgrandmama · 10/03/2017 18:43

Just realised that I am the absolutely the most perfect of mothers-in-law [polishes halo]. When my DS and his lovely girlfriend were considering marrying, both were adamant they didn't want ANY sort of 'do' and in fact were thinking of sort of eloping. I was absolutely fine with this, and they did - got married while on holiday in Las Vegas. Yes, I was sort of in on the secret. But DS's father (my exH) was furious ... he'd wanted the Big Deal Wedding for DS. Tough As I kept telling him, it was THEIR decision.

When our daughter got married, she wanted the whole works, and that was OK too by me - exH (got over his sulk over DS's wedding) and I did pay for it all. Both my kids have long and happy marriages, I adore their partners - and they've produced amazing grandkids for me.

OP - your wedding sounds fabulous, just perfect. Stick to your guns. Hopefully MIL will come round. But stick to your guns ... when your 'little ones' arrive, be prepared for more hissy fits and tantrums. Best try to get MIL 'trained' now, while you can! Have a wonderful day.

oldgrandmama · 10/03/2017 18:46

Oops, sorry, 'stuck to guns' once too often! That glass of Sauvignon has a lot to answer for!

Juney21 · 10/03/2017 19:01

Your wedding sounds beautiful and so do you.

I have three sons who have all flown the nest. Don't believe the 21 in my name Grin.

From what you've said, you got on well with your MIL until you announced your engagement. Given that your DF is her only family, I'd take a reasonable guess that your announcement hit her like a ton of bricks. You moved from 'GF' status straight to 'being the most important woman/ person in your DF's life.'

Lots of mothers of sons (I'd say most) have mentally and emotionally prepared for this. Some don't. I don't think this is about your wedding or even you. I think it's what she perceives to be the loss of her son that's the real, underlying problem.

In reality, only time can change that perception. It's clear by what you write that you are a lovely, caring person who doesn't want conflict. You've responded so nicely to some of the great suggestions people on MN have given you and have shown how willing you are to take them on board.

I think that in time she'll see how lucky your DF is to have found you. You just can't help it Smile.

I hope you and your DF have an amazing day.

FlowersCakeWine and a wee dance.

Trb17 · 10/03/2017 19:17

@Pembilton ... you absolutely ANBU.

I smiled when I read your plans so far as they are so close to what we had for ours. Proposal was 'so shall we get married then' when talking about marriage one day. We had 26 guests, quick registry office do followed by fab meal in funky restaurant, no speeches, dress code optional. We've been happily married 13 years now and I still look back on my wedding as the perfect day.

Please do as you and your DP want and not what MIL wants. This is your day and I think you're focused on the 'marriage' (rightly) whereas she's focused on the 'wedding' which is a shame.

Ps I've got a ring but I love your book gift to bit!

Good luck and congratulations Blush

Mammyashy1 · 10/03/2017 19:24

Everything you wrote seems very unique and tailored to you and your soon to be husband. That is exactly how your wedding should be. It sounds lovely. I had a more traditional wedding (how we wanted it) and still got the 'people don't do it that way' comments. You can never win whatever you do so try as hard as it might be to ignore her. She's had her wedding they way she wanted now it's your turn x

MidnightAura · 10/03/2017 19:34

Its your wedding, please have it your way. Don't give in if you and your DP don't want to. I think your day sounds lovely.

We had this when we got married last year. FIL and MIL kept telling us who to invite, where to have it, snide comments about the location. They invited people without telling us. They weren't paying for the wedding.

We prepared for them to have a face like a slapped arse. But they didn't even come. DH and I haven't spoke to them since. Their loss. Its your wedding day. Don't cave. While DH and I are sad they decided to not attend their sons wedding, we both agree we are so glad we had the wedding WE wanted, not the wedding his parents wanted us to have.