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To want to have my wedding my way, not MILs

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Pembilton · 09/03/2017 15:55

Ok so I need to rant so apologies for the long post.

Basically my partner (28) and I (25) are getting married this summer and according to MIL every little thing that we've done since is wrong and somehow suggests that we don't love each other and the marriage is doomed to failure.

Our "proposal" went something like this:
(On the way home from a friend's wedding)
Him: That'll be us someday...
Me: (smiling) yeah
Him: Someday soon?
Me: Okay
Him: (couple of mins later)...Are we engaged?
Me: Yeah (kiss)

That evening he asked if I wanted to go with him ring shopping or if I wanted him to chose. I told him I really didn't want a ring (I think it's an outdated tradition, I would have to take it off for my job everyday anyway, our finances aren't fantastic, I'm not a fan of diamonds etc.) Evidently not the response he was expecting and he was a bit surprised but agreed. A couple of weeks later he surprised me with an antique 1st edition book from my favourite author with a lovely message from him inside. It's beautiful and perfect and my most treasured possession.

We told people the next day. My parents were over the moon, they really like him and they're normal human beings. MIL gave partner a really hard time for not proposing "properly" and kept going on about how disappointed she was that there were no photos (of what? we were on a train and obviously no ring or anything!). I was really annoyed on his behalf. Then she had a go at me for not wanting a ring suggesting I had some reason for wanting to keep the engagement secret. She then said even if I didn't want a new ring I should wear something on that finger so people "knew I was taken". I'm not sure if I should be offended or complimented by her belief in my appeal to the opposite sex! Anyway we all moved on aside from the occasional "they're engaged, not that you'd know it... she doesn't want a ring apparently..."

So we knew we wanted to get married soon and wanted a nice honeymoon (it was the middle of winter!), but neither of us were that fussed about the big white wedding so it was an easy decision to have a smaller, cheaper wedding and spend on a holiday. My parents offered to give us some money towards it but I graciously refused as we've both been working for some time, have our own savings etc. MIL never offered any money which is absolutely fine as we wouldn't expect it or have accepted anyway but she then took umbrage with our plans. "If you can't afford to do it properly now wait until you can" etc. Great, but I want to be married asap not have a wedding and tonne of debt some time in the distant future.

So wedding plans currently: 28 guests of family and close friends (16 for me, 12 for him), intimate secular wedding ceremony in a pretty location, private room for nice meal in a fancy restaurant and then booked a couple of booths at a trendy nightclub we both know and love for whoever wants to party with us afterwards. Dress code smart casual for us all (clothes we can re-wear yay!). Mum's already told me she's still going to wear a fascinator because she's mother of the bride and no one can stop her and dad wants me to make sure the club will take requests so he can dance with me to "our" song (we danced to it at my 16th). This is exactly the reaction I wanted and shows how it can be simple and quirky and still work for us. Obviously MIL is a different story and to be honest I've been leaving DP deal with her over most of it but I know she's thoroughly disapproving.

Most recent development has been over speeches. In short I really, really don't want them. I've never been to a wedding where they didn't make me feel awkward and uncomfortable. Not that they were dreadfully bad or anything I'm just a bit weird that way (I hate stand-up comedy too)! I hadn't even really thought about them until DP was talking about how he was dreading it. He was very happy to knock the whole thing on the head and so was my dad. Bearing in mind it's just a group of us sat around one table as opposed to a big hall anyway I really don't think we need them. I imagine my dad will probably lead a toast or something and obviously we'll say a quick thank you but really with so few guests everyone knows how special they are to us and we'll be able to go round and talk to/ thank everyone individually anyway.

So just got off the phone to MIL who had just found out that her son wouldn't be giving a speech. She was crying, telling me I'm ruining her sons wedding and clearly don't want to be getting married. I reassured her that I did, that I love her son more than anyone else in the world, that we were both planning the wedding that would be right for us together. I tried to find out why it all bothers her so much but all she seemed to say was that I was being a fool and I'd look back on this one day and regret it. I somehow ended up apologising for not running the details re speeches etc past her earlier (!) but at this stage I'd do anything for her to just let us do what we want.

To be honest I think she might have more of a problem with me than the wedding but I don't know why. We had a good relationship up to all this, I really love her son and I'm a nice person I promise! It's just really getting me down and although I'd never act on it it's getting so that I don't really want her there as I'm going to feel like she's just finding fault with everything! Ugh!

Obviously DP and I have spoken about this lots. He's completely happy with the wedding we've planned and very excited about it (he's even making some distressed wood flower planter things for our table decorations

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NeedsAsockamnesty · 09/03/2017 17:29

You sound lovely very lovely indeed.

I wish you both all the happiness for the future.

That is all I have to say.

RochelleGoyle · 09/03/2017 17:31

God, YANBU OP, your MIL sounds like a nightmare! I think the wedding you have planned sounds lovely. I hope your MIL comes to her senses soon!

TiredMumToTwo · 09/03/2017 17:32

In my experience of MILs & my own DM, the less they know - the less they can find fault with. Get your DH to deal with her whilst being vague on the details. My MIL is currently gearing up for SIL's wedding this winter, there's already been tears over it not being in a church - so glad DH & I ran off to Mexico to get hitched on our own!!

sooperdooper · 09/03/2017 17:33

Yanbu do your own thing it's your wedding not hers and she sounds unhinged - stop talking to her about it

ElisavetaFartsonira · 09/03/2017 17:34

I hadn't realised dreaming about your kids future nuptials was a thing.

WaitroseCoffeeCostaCup · 09/03/2017 17:35

My MIL was at our house within 24 hours of the engagement announcing she was paying for the lot...I said I thought my Dad may want to! How I wish I'd nipped it in the bud then!
Everything had to be how she wanted. I booked a singer and was told 'I need to know what they're singing, I don't like surprises'. Finally, when she decided 2.5 bottles of wine pp was not enough and went into a tizz about not having Diet Coke on the tables, and the wedding planner refused to obey her wishes, she withdrew the money 8 days before the wedding.
I speak to her as little as possible now.
I don't really have many happy memories of the run up to my wedding at all.
Put a stop to this now. She needs to know it's not her day. She will sulk whether you stand up to her or not.

JoJoSM2 · 09/03/2017 17:35

Makes more sense now that you mention she's DF's only family. I was going to ask if she had any daughters. She's probably been dreaming up a lavish, traditional wedding for her son and is now disappointed. And pretty narrow-minded... To cheer her up, I'd mention your mum will be wearing a fascinator and MIL is welcome to turn up in a massive hat. Otherwise, there isn't anything much you can do or say really...

Catrina1234 · 09/03/2017 17:37

Of course MIL's right - you should have had a video of the proposal - him on bended knee in the proper fashion and whoever heard of an engagement without a ring - assume you are having a wedding ring, or have you vetoed that too. And the teeny weeny wedding, nooooo you should have done as MIL said and waited 5 or 10 years and done it properly, and a meal in a restaurant and no speeches dear god - that's not a wedding reception.............and your partner doesn't get to make a speech and thank his mom for being so wonderful all these years etc etc.

Nah you've got it all wrong OP and MIL's right on the money Grin Grin Grin

I think you knew what everyone was going to say...................Happy wedding Grin

SittingWithMyFeetUP12 · 09/03/2017 17:41

Have the wedding you want...we had a small wedding but husbands family spoilt what there was, because MIL was pulling an awful face when she arrived, his Aunt was rude to my mother, when she mistakenly mistook her for husbands mum (it wasnt my fault they didnt meet before hand, it was his) His other aunt was down right rude to me, before we went in for lunch. I almost felt like leaving...and they looked like rogues on the wedding photographs (which is the only funny part)
Have the wedding you want. My in laws, werent happy at being invited (they just turn up en masse to weddings apparently) werent happy children werent invited, we were having a small wedding on a limited budget, and thought we should have a buffet, we had proper meals....I dont see much of them at all, thank goodness. Shame I never thought what they'd be like before the wedding.....

MadameCholetsDirtySecret · 09/03/2017 17:44

You sound wonderful OP. I'm just a bit sad that you aren't marrying my DS - he is 25 and fab Wink - I would love to be your MIL

expatinscotland · 09/03/2017 17:47

YANBU! I'm a big fan of these simpler weddings. Hope that goes back to being the norms. Speeches are shite. They are always shite. And boring as all fuck. No one cares! Just toast and get on with the party. Your plans sound terrific.

AvacadoSalad · 09/03/2017 17:49

Relief over on Reddit

OhWhatFuckeryIsThisNow · 09/03/2017 17:50

I really don't get the over investment in your kids' weddings. (Ive got three sons and a daughter and atm I'd happily pay for someone to take them off our hands. Grin ) My uncle who had seven kids always said he'd give them 50 quid and a ladder to elope.
Your wedding sounds charming and lovely and I agree that mil to be is being a massive pita, BUT I'm going to play Devils advocate. Ds is only child, she's brought him up (beautifully) alone, so maybe she does want a bit of involvement to show how much she loves you both. How about finding her a role? Nothing that will impact massively in your wishes, just something to show that she is part of your wider family? Ask her sincerely, say "dmil, I would be honoured if you could help us/me with ..." And let her wear a massive fuck off hat.
Enjoy your day, it really does sound perfect.

aprilanne · 09/03/2017 17:51

OP you sound like a nice person .if you made my boy happy that would be good enough for me .its usually the brides mother who has this fantasy thing in her head not the grooms .my own eldest sons wedding was a tiny affair .they saved the money for the honeymoon .they had a fortnight in mexico we took there two daughters who were just toddlers on holiday to france to euro camp .everyone was happy they had there day how they wanted it and fortnights peace to just be together that too me was perfect. ignore her have what you both want

Gillian1980 · 09/03/2017 17:52

Yanbu

You can do your wedding however you like, it's nobody else's business.

We didn't consult with our parents about details at all. We just told them the odd thing here and there and invited them.

My dad came into some money unexpectedly and paid for the whole thing but he didn't impose any views on us at all.

rattieofcarcassone · 09/03/2017 17:56

Please please ignore your MIL. I wanted a wedding like what you have planned, it was still like it but there are certain things I backed down on that I really regretted and it was a lot bigger than what I felt comfortable with (still under 40 though I only wanted 10 people there!). Two years later and I still can't bring myself to look at the photos.

Pembilton · 09/03/2017 17:57

ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess haha who knows there may well be a spare seat going soon! For me and my dad it's Ronan Keating- "I hope you Dance". Not really normal taste in music for either of us but special for the memories :) Definitely don't think the club DJ would appreciate it though so see if we can arrange to have some space at the restaurant and an iPod docking station or something.

For me and DF in an ideal world probably standing on separate sides of the dance floor shout-singing Proclaimers- "Life With You" at each other (which may not be appropriate in the private room of a restaurant). For your standard slow dance probably Elvis- "Can't Help Falling in Love with You"

ShoutOutToMyEX Congrats! It sounds like it'll be a gorgeous day and if you fancy swapping MILs at all I'm open to suggestions!

ButterflyFree Wow well done for sticking to your guns and congrats on your lovely wedding. Thanks for the encouragement; it's good to know I'm not alone!

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Craigie · 09/03/2017 17:58

You are not being remotely unreasonable. We had a tiny little wedding 15 years ago (no dress, flowers, cars, cake, photographs, speeches, party - did have the diamonds though!) We did EXACTLY what we wanted. I don't regret not having all the associated wedding crap for one second. Had a great big fabulous honeymoon. Stick to your guns. It's about you & your future husband, not her.

HopefullyAnonymous · 09/03/2017 17:59

The Lee Ann Womack version is one of my favourite songs. Beautiful lyrics.

Pembilton · 09/03/2017 18:01

Catrina1234 Haha oh dear that gave me flashbacks!! OK I admit I was just looking for lots of support and so glad I got it! :D Feeling much better about everything now thanks to all you lovely ladies :)

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Mumtobe12 · 09/03/2017 18:02

Congratulations!
You can't give in to mother in law I would leave dp to deal with it let him be sensitive to her but assertive. It is your wedding day and if you and her son happy she needs to get over it.
I had similar when I refused to get married in church she wanted to make us prayer pillows and everything she was disappointed but thankfully came to terms fingers crossed yours does too Smile

Astro55 · 09/03/2017 18:03

Just drop comments - well WE are thinking of eloping!

Really stop speaking tinker and let DF talk to her - it should be WE want a small wedding WS aren't having speeches .. repeat

isaulte · 09/03/2017 18:03

You sound lovely, and so does your wedding.

redexpat · 09/03/2017 18:04

Ohhh please can we start feeding her false information?

How about owls flying into the ceremony with the rings?

You'll be having false flowers in your bouquet, because obviously you want to minimise the environmental impact of the ceremony.

And the venue will be decorated by art students in the style of salvator dali, so floppy clocks everywhere.

And youll be coming up the aisle to (insert the name of a song that she hates).

In the meantime stick to your guns, and maybe throw her an olive branch. Would she like to sign as witness? Do a reading?

livefornaps · 09/03/2017 18:08

The fact he's her only child comes as no big surprise. Maybe she's worried you're going to run off? Re. The "_no one will know you're taken" "you're hiding the engagement" comments and that somehow your way isn't taking it seriously. And it may be that even if you had done every single thing she wanted she may well have acted weirdly anyway, in that she's "losing" her only family. Who knows?
I'm sure when she sees the two of you happy on the day, she'll come round. And a more intimate gathering make me her feel more reassured (????) like the actual joining of 2 families rather than a huge anonymous do. Maybe get your fella to tell her that there may not be speeches but the smaller nber of people will mean people can actually chat on the day. Maybe have a meal out with your parents and her? I.just think she's looking for reassurance somehow.

Of course, after all of that if she carries on you can just ignore her.