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To want to have my wedding my way, not MILs

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Pembilton · 09/03/2017 15:55

Ok so I need to rant so apologies for the long post.

Basically my partner (28) and I (25) are getting married this summer and according to MIL every little thing that we've done since is wrong and somehow suggests that we don't love each other and the marriage is doomed to failure.

Our "proposal" went something like this:
(On the way home from a friend's wedding)
Him: That'll be us someday...
Me: (smiling) yeah
Him: Someday soon?
Me: Okay
Him: (couple of mins later)...Are we engaged?
Me: Yeah (kiss)

That evening he asked if I wanted to go with him ring shopping or if I wanted him to chose. I told him I really didn't want a ring (I think it's an outdated tradition, I would have to take it off for my job everyday anyway, our finances aren't fantastic, I'm not a fan of diamonds etc.) Evidently not the response he was expecting and he was a bit surprised but agreed. A couple of weeks later he surprised me with an antique 1st edition book from my favourite author with a lovely message from him inside. It's beautiful and perfect and my most treasured possession.

We told people the next day. My parents were over the moon, they really like him and they're normal human beings. MIL gave partner a really hard time for not proposing "properly" and kept going on about how disappointed she was that there were no photos (of what? we were on a train and obviously no ring or anything!). I was really annoyed on his behalf. Then she had a go at me for not wanting a ring suggesting I had some reason for wanting to keep the engagement secret. She then said even if I didn't want a new ring I should wear something on that finger so people "knew I was taken". I'm not sure if I should be offended or complimented by her belief in my appeal to the opposite sex! Anyway we all moved on aside from the occasional "they're engaged, not that you'd know it... she doesn't want a ring apparently..."

So we knew we wanted to get married soon and wanted a nice honeymoon (it was the middle of winter!), but neither of us were that fussed about the big white wedding so it was an easy decision to have a smaller, cheaper wedding and spend on a holiday. My parents offered to give us some money towards it but I graciously refused as we've both been working for some time, have our own savings etc. MIL never offered any money which is absolutely fine as we wouldn't expect it or have accepted anyway but she then took umbrage with our plans. "If you can't afford to do it properly now wait until you can" etc. Great, but I want to be married asap not have a wedding and tonne of debt some time in the distant future.

So wedding plans currently: 28 guests of family and close friends (16 for me, 12 for him), intimate secular wedding ceremony in a pretty location, private room for nice meal in a fancy restaurant and then booked a couple of booths at a trendy nightclub we both know and love for whoever wants to party with us afterwards. Dress code smart casual for us all (clothes we can re-wear yay!). Mum's already told me she's still going to wear a fascinator because she's mother of the bride and no one can stop her and dad wants me to make sure the club will take requests so he can dance with me to "our" song (we danced to it at my 16th). This is exactly the reaction I wanted and shows how it can be simple and quirky and still work for us. Obviously MIL is a different story and to be honest I've been leaving DP deal with her over most of it but I know she's thoroughly disapproving.

Most recent development has been over speeches. In short I really, really don't want them. I've never been to a wedding where they didn't make me feel awkward and uncomfortable. Not that they were dreadfully bad or anything I'm just a bit weird that way (I hate stand-up comedy too)! I hadn't even really thought about them until DP was talking about how he was dreading it. He was very happy to knock the whole thing on the head and so was my dad. Bearing in mind it's just a group of us sat around one table as opposed to a big hall anyway I really don't think we need them. I imagine my dad will probably lead a toast or something and obviously we'll say a quick thank you but really with so few guests everyone knows how special they are to us and we'll be able to go round and talk to/ thank everyone individually anyway.

So just got off the phone to MIL who had just found out that her son wouldn't be giving a speech. She was crying, telling me I'm ruining her sons wedding and clearly don't want to be getting married. I reassured her that I did, that I love her son more than anyone else in the world, that we were both planning the wedding that would be right for us together. I tried to find out why it all bothers her so much but all she seemed to say was that I was being a fool and I'd look back on this one day and regret it. I somehow ended up apologising for not running the details re speeches etc past her earlier (!) but at this stage I'd do anything for her to just let us do what we want.

To be honest I think she might have more of a problem with me than the wedding but I don't know why. We had a good relationship up to all this, I really love her son and I'm a nice person I promise! It's just really getting me down and although I'd never act on it it's getting so that I don't really want her there as I'm going to feel like she's just finding fault with everything! Ugh!

Obviously DP and I have spoken about this lots. He's completely happy with the wedding we've planned and very excited about it (he's even making some distressed wood flower planter things for our table decorations

OP posts:
chocolateworshipper · 09/03/2017 16:37

Batshit woman. Your wedding sounds wonderful, and how fabulous that you are your DF agree on what you want. No other opinion matters.

SapphireStrange · 09/03/2017 16:41

Your wedding sounds gorgeous and your parents are adorable.

The MIL is a nutter. Stop answering the phone to her. If you have to talk to her and she brings up the wedding, smile and say 'We're not getting into discussions about the wedding, MIL' and change the subject.

Rubies12345 · 09/03/2017 16:42

Just send out the invites 2-3 months before then it's done, you don't need to run it past anyone.

Marmalady75 · 09/03/2017 16:44

I was at a wedding that cost £40k, hundreds of people, very fancy food and long speeches. It was the most BORING wedding I've ever had the misfortune to attend. Yours sounds lovely and so personal. Please stick to your plan!!!

Sung · 09/03/2017 16:46

YANBU!

You're proposal and wedding sound lovely - a lot of similarities (Small, one big table in a private dining room, no speeches) to mine Wink. Don't change a thing Smile - at least you have clear warning that boundaries are going to be an issue with your MIL (she doesn't sound very emotionally intelligent).

You don't need to get your MIL on board - it is YOUR wedding. Stay upbeat, change the subject, repeat it is just the way you and your partner want it...avoid discussing it with her.

terrylene · 09/03/2017 16:46

She has an idea in her head of this big fancy wedding, probably so she can show off pictures to her friends etc It has long been my belief that a decent photographer is the only requirement Wink

Sung · 09/03/2017 16:46

your Blush

MerryMarigold · 09/03/2017 16:47

Just wait till you have kids....Mumsnet will be your friend.

Nelllo · 09/03/2017 16:49

Stay strong. Keep your boundaries clear. She's always going to be your MIL so start as you mean to go on and have the wedding that you want.

5foot5 · 09/03/2017 16:49

OP, both you and your DP sound lovely and so do your wedding plans. You must be the very opposite of a bridezilla.

Don't compromise your wedding plans for her but it would be nice to see if you can make some special details to appease her. E.g. arrange special corsage for the mothers; if you are having a special dance with your Dad then be sure he has one with his Mum. Just something to make her feel like she is important on the day.

Are there any nice aunts who could talk some sense in to her?

heateallthebuns · 09/03/2017 16:49

Your wedding sounds lovely! And you and df want the same thing. As df is sticking to his gins she'll get over it in time!

Vegansnake · 09/03/2017 16:53

Welcome to being married..you will have a lifetime of this...I find being firm,calm and polite helps,plus keeping her at a distance

WannaBe · 09/03/2017 16:54

Your wedding sounds awesome.

Your dp needs to tell her to grow up because at least you're having a wedding... and threaten to elope if she doesn't.

AgainstTheOddsNo2 · 09/03/2017 16:54

You are right it should be about what you both want. However, please be a bit sensitive as she has probably been dreaming of this day too. I would guess that she only had a small wedding (if any) and wants to live through her only child. That is not her place and it shouldn't be down to you to fix her but I don't think she is purposely being mean.

Can I suggest you find a "role" or a task for her to make her feel involved. I dunno let her pick the flowers for the planters or make some wedding favours or something. See if it makes her back off

yellowfrog · 09/03/2017 16:56

Your wedding sounds fantastic, and anyone who can't see how romantic that proposal conversation is is being blind! Add to that the book, your mum with her fascinator and your dad with your song and frankly the whole thing is just gorgeous! That is what memories are made of! MIL needs to be told to butt out!

AgainstTheOddsNo2 · 09/03/2017 16:59

Or in other words I second 5foot5

Pembilton · 09/03/2017 17:00

Thank you!

I suppose I've been so desperate to try to make things ok with her because a) we were fine with each other for the last 15 months prior to all this and b) she is DF's only family and I don't want to make things difficult for him or our future family. However you guys have helped me to see there's little more I can do. Hopefully DF can smooth things over and it will all work out. If she keeps on pushing I'm confident in whose side he'll come out on ;) I like some of the ideas about a special corsage/ dance for her and DF (don't think I'd be able to trust her with a speech!) but I'll leave that all up to him as I'm not sure I'm in the right mood to come up with thoughtful details for her right now! I think I'll see if we can have a few dances after the meal at the restaurant, rather than take over the club with sappy wedding music!

I just hate that I'm causing stress for DF and I really don't want this to be a sign of things to come re kids etc.! :O

OP posts:
Lottapianos · 09/03/2017 17:02

I like the cut of your jib OP. A lot. A discussion rather than a 'proposal', no engagement ring and you clearly don't give a shit about appearing 'taken'. Your plans all sound lovely. Stand your ground and don't share any details with her

KatieScarlett · 09/03/2017 17:03
Grin Are you me? No wish for an engagement ring. No big wedding. Got married abroad. My DP's overjoyed with the lack of fuss. MIL catsbumfaced We just wanted to be married and have a nice holiday. That was 23 years ago. I think MIL is just about over it Grin
Tenpastlate · 09/03/2017 17:05

Your dp needs to tell her to grow up because at least you're having a wedding... and threaten to elope if she doesn't.

^^ This.
My MIL acted similarly and had a face like a smacked arse on the day. She looked petty and stupid.

ItShouldHaveBeenJingleJess · 09/03/2017 17:12

Milzilla! Your wedding sounds perfect - where's my invite? (and what's 'your song' - I'm nosey)

ShoutOutToMyEx · 09/03/2017 17:18

This thread made me smile as it's proof that whatever you do will be wrong to someone. My MIL is cross that we're having a big white wedding (with speeches and all!) and thinks we should just do it in the local pub.

Your wedding sounds like it's going to be perfect for you OP, don't let your MIL ruin this exciting time. I bet whatever you chose wouldn't make her happy.

ButterflyFree · 09/03/2017 17:23

Pembilton - firstly, many congratulations on your impending nuptials, and what you have planned for the celebration sounds absolutely lovely!

I had a similar situation with my MIL... My DH is her 'star' son (similar to your fiancé being an only child I suppose) and she had been dreaming of and planning his wedding in her mind for years.

I married into a different culture; one in which arranged marriage is the norm, and an 'average' sized wedding has 600+ female-only guests. The groom makes a brief appearance and then leaves the women to do their thing. There is also traditionally a men's-only wedding, also with 500+ guests, but with no appearance from the bride and typically a much simpler event than the ladies one.

MIL wanted to go all-out; in this society the wedding is seen as one of the best ways to 'show off', and understandably she is very proud of my DH and the success he has made of himself. However, neither he nor I wanted this type of traditional wedding AT ALL.

We got married legally in the court with just 2 male witnesses (as is required here in the UAE) and neither of us were fussed about doing any type of party or ceremony at all, but MIL kept pressuring. We didn't want to throw money on something neither of us wanted just to impress society, but at the same time I was keen not to disappoint MIL especially as I know she made sacrifices to allow her star son to marry me (as he insisted) in the first place.

So, we came to a compromise: 2 months after legally marrying in court, we had a ladies wedding at the family house for 200 female guests (family & close friends - yes they have huge families here!). DH didn't want a separate men's wedding, and he attended the ladies' function with me for the entire time (not the norm). Throughout the whole planning process, MIL didn't agree with ANYTHING I chose - from the decoration designs to the dress - but luckily I have three lovely sisters-in-law who were able to mediate and calm her down on most things.

MIL was still expecting a disaster on the 'wedding' day and for the guests to see the ceremony as a social disgrace, though. But she was pleasantly surprised with how well it turned out and how well it was received. We all ended up enjoying it - I got the decor, the dress, hair, makeup, and small(er) event that I wanted, we have lovely photos to remember the occasion by, and the guests all commented on how it was nice to attend a 'unique' ceremony. 5 minutes into the night, MIL's whole demeanour had changed as she proudly showed off her new British DIL 😂

My advice to you is this: stick to your guns, with your fiancé's support, and do YOUR wedding exactly as YOU want it. She may resist right up until the end and even during the event itself, but as your MIL clearly loves and adores her son, once she sees how happy you both are on the day she hopefully won't be able to help herself but enjoy it.

Good luck! x

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/03/2017 17:24

I think part of this maybe if it has only been her and your DFiancé for most of his life I guess it feels like she is losing him.

Moo31 · 09/03/2017 17:25

Your wedding sounds fab - exactly what we will do when we get round to it (got engaged a year ago, no plans as yet, not that fussed if I am honest!)

Ignore her - its YOUR day. Not hers. Have a fab wedding day! :)

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