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AIBU? Neighthours and dropped kerb

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 13:09

Right so we own a bourse with a dropped kerb directly outside our house. Next door do not have a dropped kerb they have a big tree at the end of their driveway assuming they can't get permission for a dropped kerb. Anyway so we have 2 cars next door has one. They use our dropped kerb to access their driveway as they wouldn't be able to access it otherwise. Last night my partners car was parked on our drive, I parked on our dropped kerb and was taking the shopping in. Next door pulled up behind me beeping their horn. I continued to get the things out the car took them to my front door, he beeped the horn again and I shouted wait. I then got the baby aged 5 months out the car and came To the front door to which my partner had now opened the door to see what was going on. I walked back to my car and got my toddler as he didn't want to get out the car. Next door beeped the horn again. Aibu in thinking his an arse and you know what he should be grateful as, Correct me if I'm wrong I'm allowed to park on my dropped kerb. And if it weren't for us he wouldn't be to access his drive without using our dropped kerb.

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Hillarious · 08/03/2017 14:15

Was there a reason not to have pulled right up on to the drive when you arrived home, rather than on the dropped kerb? I'm a little confused as to why you would do two-stage parking?

humourless · 08/03/2017 14:15

I'd park there permanently if my neighbour beeped at me to gain access over my property.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 14:16

Looking at that you parked blocking the pavement to get your kids and shopping out, rather than pull forward? Why would you do that?

Don't be an arse just about covers it both ways in this scenario. I think.

He was an arse for beeping but you were an arse for parking where his access was blocked when you didn't have to.

And both of you could go to enforcement etc but come on, he's a neighbour. Why would you cause strife over such a small thing.

The pavement and the kerb aren't yours. You can use them and drive over them to access your drive, but they don't belong to you.

EchoesofEmpires · 08/03/2017 14:17

So that kerb you were parked over is the boundary marker? OP, do you usually park half over the shared strip of land? Honestly think you were being a bit unreasonable here, why not pull forward onto the drive as you are now to unload? I honestly don't get why you were unloading from the dropped kerb.

ProfessionalPirate · 08/03/2017 14:17

Where does your land actually extend to? Because it looks to me like it might just be to the end of the flagged area. In which case neighbour wouldn't be driving over your land at all, and the access is probably shared.

Hillarious · 08/03/2017 14:17

Well said Annesmyth123.

delicateears · 08/03/2017 14:17

Given that you can fit two cars on your driveway - as in the photos - what made you park across the dropped kerb and walk all that way carrying shopping and baby?

Surely easier to drive on to your driveway to do this?

Having paid £3k for a dropped kerb it would piss me off if other people used it to access their garden/drive - but I get the impression all I've paid for is permission to alter the public pavement to give me access - sadly I don't own that area - but it's would really bug me if I had a neighbour do what yours did.

Can't work out why you would park across your dropped kerb to unload when you have space nearwer your house.

Equally think your neighbour was ignorant and aggressive to beep you.

Smurfpoo · 08/03/2017 14:17

Firstly, good choice of car
Check your deeds (and cancel the cheque!) that will hold the answer.
A friend of mine has a similar set up, its a slightly wider dropped kerb and it does do both houses.
I would also be worried that the length of time they have used it would mean they have permission to use it regardless of what the deeds say. But thats a good place to start.

BattleaxeGalactica · 08/03/2017 14:17

The dropped kerb issue is a bit of a red herring I think. The priority must be to stop him using any part of your drive to access his own as you could be creating potential right of way issues a few years down the line.

Boundary wall/row of penguin bollards plant pots is the way forward here. He sounds like an aggressive entitled arse.

bloodyteenagers · 08/03/2017 14:18

It looks like historically there was a wall just at the side of the path. It could years ago them and the people who lived in your house paid for the drop, and the wall was removed to give both properties access.

sobeyondthehills · 08/03/2017 14:18

Not to derail, but I looked at that photo and thought what is Mr Nosey doing waking past.

I would still look at your deeds and see who owns the middle part, but just looking at that last photo I would say that line on the left hand side by the blue car is the boundry line. It all depends on what the deeds say

Sudocreamface · 08/03/2017 14:18

You can't park on a dropped kerb even if it's you who dropped it because it doesn't belong to you. However them driving over your land to get to their own is another matter and one I wouldn't be happy with.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 14:18

He may well say he doesn't condone your behaviour last night because it was totally unnecessary.

londonrach · 08/03/2017 14:19

You need to check your deeds op as you might be parking on his land. Anyway it is illegal to park on a dropped kerb. No idea why you didnt drive in to unload. He shouldnt have beeped his horn but you shouldnt have unloaded on a dropped kerb. To keep good neighbours its give and take. Id be the bigger person and apologise for last night even if he was in the wrong for beeping as its not worth the upset.

witsender · 08/03/2017 14:19

It isn't your dropped kerb, it just so happens to be in front of your house. Looking at the angles he doesn't really drive over your drive, just the pavement in which case it is as much his access as yours.

Why did you stop early on the drive and not further up?

mollyminniemo · 08/03/2017 14:20

But he's driving across the dropped kerb, onto the pavement to his drive- the dropped kerb is the OPs. Either she directly paid directly for this or indirectly when she bought he house. He's not entitled to use it, astounded at the responses telling OP not to be an arse when this man kept constantly hooting at her to hurry up with her baby- to unload her shopping. He was aggressive, impatient and rude, how exactly is OP in the wrong?

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 14:21

If the paved but is the end of your drive and the other bit the pavement you had no right to park there and he's not on your land accessing his drive. He's just driving at an angle to get on his drive whereas you drive straight.

You don't know if he wasn't ever given permission to do this in the past.

And you're being a bit of an arse really over him not even being on your property. I thought you meant he was on your actual drive but it doesn't look like that's the case. Can you see what I mean?

Iris65 · 08/03/2017 14:21

Looking at that you parked blocking the pavement to get your kids and shopping out, rather than pull forward? Why would you do that? Don't be an arse just about covers it both ways in this scenario. I think. He was an arse for beeping but you were an arse for parking where his access was blocked when you didn't have to.

^^ This

badtime · 08/03/2017 14:21

molly , how do you know the neighbour (or their predecessor) did not contribute to the cost of the dropped kerb?

ProfessionalPirate · 08/03/2017 14:22

Put a wall up if you like, but you can't put it across the pavement so your neighbour will still be able to drive across the dropped kerb.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 14:22

The dropped kerb does not be,one to the op. She paid or someone in her house previous paid for it. To give themselves access to their drive. But they don't own it.

bloodyteenagers · 08/03/2017 14:23

How can you say 100% without seeing any paperwork that the access isn't shared? Because of the tree the two properties may have come to some shared arrangement.

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Mummysboy2014 · 08/03/2017 14:23

Last night I couldn't park on my driveway as my partners dad had parked the silver car on the drive ( he took my partners car to the garage and leaving him the corsa) to use while his car was in the garage. If that makes sense

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Mummyoflittledragon · 08/03/2017 14:24

I don't know if the dropped kerb is ops or if it was paid for by previous owners. Looking at the age of the houses, it would appear they were built when car ownership wasn't that uncommon. I regularly drive down a main road, where the curb has been dropped in places and the owners with no direct road access drive along a wide pavement to get to their houses - I imagine perfectly legally. So nothing can be assumed.

Annesmyth123 · 08/03/2017 14:25

That's not your neighbours fault. You could have parked on the road not at the dropped kerb. Or got your partner or his dad to move the other cars?

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