AIBU? Neighthours and dropped kerb

[Mummysboy2014]

Right so we own a bourse with a dropped kerb directly outside our house. Next door do not have a dropped kerb they have a big tree at the end of their driveway assuming they can't get permission for a dropped kerb. Anyway so we have 2 cars next door has one. They use our dropped kerb to access their driveway as they wouldn't be able to access it otherwise. Last night my partners car was parked on our drive, I parked on our dropped kerb and was taking the shopping in. Next door pulled up behind me beeping their horn. I continued to get the things out the car took them to my front door, he beeped the horn again and I shouted wait. I then got the baby aged 5 months out the car and came To the front door to which my partner had now opened the door to see what was going on. I walked back to my car and got my toddler as he didn't want to get out the car. Next door beeped the horn again. Aibu in thinking his an arse and you know what he should be grateful as, Correct me if I'm wrong I'm allowed to park on my dropped kerb. And if it weren't for us he wouldn't be to access his drive without using our dropped kerb.

OP how long have you lived there, did you have the kerb done, has the neighbour been doing this for years (in which case he's probably got assumed right of way now) - and yes someone was on a thread here the other day saying that you can't park on your own dropped kerb (probably explains why neighbours are always trying to park on mine )

Oh and your neighbour is an arse.

Just Googled info for you. To legally park over the dropped kerb at your address and to avoid a fine - inform the council of your address and vehicle reg and you are fine to park there!!

It depends on the deeds and initial design layout of the houses. If it's a historical right of way, then he has every right to access his driveway across yours and you shouldn't park there. If he has retrospectively created a driveway that her can only access via your land, then he needs to have arranged this with you in advance.

And we do need a drawing, it's Mnet law.

I've never known more about dropped kerbs since I joined mumsnet. I feel like I could take an exam now.

oh yeah, meant to say he sounds like a twat with all the beep beeping.

Check if the access is shared. If not put lockable bollards or gate and don't give them access. When they ask act confused as to why you should give access to your drive.

I agree you need to check your deeds and find out how long your neighbour has been using this means of access. If he doesn't already have a legal right to do this, I'd be worried about creating one by length of use. It could be worth getting legal advice.

Your not allowed to park on a dropped kerb. Outside your house or not it's illegal to park on a dropped kerb.
Plus it's just rude to block someone's driveway, next door to us constantly have visitors who block us in so we can't get on or off our driveways. Really annoying

I can't picture this at all could you post a diagram please. I'm trying to figure out how your neighbour gets onto his own drive from your dropped kerb.

Burningbridges has asked the right questions.

It all depends on whether the neighbour has the right to drive over OP's drive to get to their drive. This can be acquired by either a direct grant (get deeds to both properties from the Land Registry - can be got online for £3 each) or by long use (prescription), for which see this blog.landregistry.gov.uk/guide-prescriptive-rights-way/

Essentially, they or their predecessors in title need to have used the route to their drive for at least 20 years without the permission of whoever owned your land. If they haven't had that 20 years I suggest you either erect a fence on the boundary or in the alternative explain to them that they must sign a document evidencing the fact that you have given their consent to drive over the drive, which consent may be removed at any time.

If your neighbour is accessing his property only by your good graces, he can bog off with his twatty beeping!

Having said that though you were only unloading so surely he could have waited. It would have been different if he was trying to leave his house to say get to an appointment but surely no rush to get into his house.

YANBU and it's illegal for him to use his front as a driveway if he hasn't got a dropped kerb.
Does your dropped kirb mean he can drive straight into his front garden or does he have to drive diagonally after mounting the kerb.
I'd report him tbh, because he sounds like an arse.

Just looking for the diagram 👀

Sounds like he's being a twat, but need a diagram!

Although if your dh was in why didn't he come and help you unload? Wouldn't be impressed with his inaction either

Do you generally get on with this neighbour?

Could you not have just gone to their window and told them you'd be a couple of mins. Regardless of who's right or wrong a simple bit of communication might have helped.

I agree it depends on whether he has historic access. Either way since you've been happy for him to use the dropped curb up ti; now it seems a bit churlish to take your time when he clearly needs to get into his house. I wouldn't have kept beeping if I was him though.

Right I didn't expect that many responses so thank you to you all.

I have took some pictures of this helps or not I don't know.

As I was taking the picture his partner pulled up with her friend in the black car parked directly blocking my driveway!!

I would be tempted to build a wall along the side of my driveway, along the boundary line. Cause, it's your drive, not his right of way.

I'd be getting a set of gates across my drive

Here are the pictures

Ah, fair enough Annesmyth, good to know!

It seems odd he has a drive with no access. Need a diagram!

Sorry, the pictures aren't helping. What do they show?