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To think DH should stop seeing this female "friend"

516 replies

springycurls · 04/03/2017 15:01

First time posting in AIBU, I really don't think I am but DH won't discuss it properly AT ALL

DH and I have been married for 6mo. I've known him 2 years. We're in our late 30s and met online. He was always open that he was looking for a serious relationship and our relationship is great. He can be a bit immature and there are things I'd like to change about him but overall I'm happy. He is in a very niche job working for the government that needs a lot of specific, high level qualifications (PhD as a minimum)- it can be very demanding and a lot of it he isn't allowed to talk about. (this is relevant!!)

He has this female "friend" who he met many years ago. She is in the same job but is 10 years younger and though he wasn't her manager he mentored her when she first started. They do seem to have a lot in common- DH has some quite strange interests that I think he's a bit old for TBH. They became friends and stayed in touch but there's always been something "off" about her. I've heard from friends who knew him before he met me that they used to go on "dates" e.g. for dinner or films even though she has a partner. That hasn't happened much recently. She's been with this partner a long time but they're not married so I'm dubious as to how serious she is about that.

Anyway I went through his FB messages and whatsapps and it seems like they message quite frequently- at least once every week. Sometimes she starts it, sometimes he does. Usually it's about some of these weird interests or sounding off about work- again the very specific stuff about their job that us "plebs" wouldn't understand - but I've noticed that she has a pet name for him that no one else uses and he uses a pet name for her. She sometimes ends her messages with xxx. They are due to be away for work in London in a couple of months. It's not required that they go as it's a seminar type thing, but I found a message from him asking if she was going and saying that he'd go if she does! She had replied saying thank god I'll have someone to sit next to, you're the only person I like out of all of them!!

She has in the past tagged him on facebook and it's always a bit inappropriate- like they both went to this comic book expo thing and she photographed him there with some models.

I have met her a few times and always felt she was actually a bit rude/cheeky to my DH- especially from someone so much younger who is in the same job and should be looking up to him. He says she's not rude it's just "we think the same way". I think she's a bit snooty as she seems to presume me and DH will have the same interests. We had her round for dinner once and it was awful! She's known DH's cat since it was a kitten so it loves her (cat hates me, I hate cats) and she made a bloody great fuss of it. She then wanted to talk politics which was a bit controversial as DH and I don't agree and she openly said she was shocked by that and not agreeing would be a "deal breaker" for her and her partner!
He wanted to invite her to our wedding but I said no. She sent us a card and a small gift anyway which I thought was quite passive aggressive!

I have tried to get him to talk about her but he just tells me to leave it and that there's nothing going on. I can't put my finger on it but it just doesn't seem right for him to have this sort of relationship. All his other female friends are our age, married and he's friendly with the husbands too. I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off. I could get her number off DH phone but that seems a bit OTT

How can I get my DH to see this is a bit weird, and am I being unreasonable to think he should reduce his contact with her and keep it just professional? She's a young girl surely she should be making friends with people her own age anyway!

OP posts:
Athrawes · 05/03/2017 21:09

You are very definately BU. He has a friend. You don't own him. When he leaves you because you are a controlling abuser, his friends will tell him that they tried to tell him but that he wouldn't listen.

surferjet · 05/03/2017 21:11

I'd bet my house he's having an affair with her. Sorry op, but from what you've said in your op it's bleedin' obvious.

OnionKnight · 05/03/2017 21:14

Erm not really... I'm just surprised people are so shocked and appalled that the OP has concerns. I actually think a lot of women (and men) would have these concerns too and I actually thinks its fairly natural. She has come on here to get others thoughts, its not like she has gone screaming around to this woman's house accusing her of anything. In fact, doesn't sound like the OP has made much of a deal of it at home at all.

Oh really?

I've tried looking her up on facebook but her privacy settings are very strong so I can't even message her directly telling her to back off. I could get her number off DH phone but that seems a bit OTT

Trust me, she's made a big deal out of it.

ErinMummy · 05/03/2017 21:15

Reading OP I can't believe writing that you didn't realise you were being unreasonable so I suspect reverse too.

If not . . . Sorry but I think YABU. Every example you listed are things I could have done with work colleagues that meant nothing romantic. Your DH is probably getting rather fed up with your paranoia.

OnionKnight · 05/03/2017 21:15

They have history. they used to date.

No they didn't, not in the way you are thinking of anyway.

MiddleClassProblem · 05/03/2017 21:19

Er they didn't date! They just went for dinner and to the movies as you do with your mates!

CrikeyPeg · 05/03/2017 21:22

EUnamechange good post, and way more helpful than mine Grin

allchattedout · 05/03/2017 21:47

I'd bet my house he's having an affair with her. Sorry op, but from what you've said in your op it's bleedin' obvious

Can't work out whether you're being sarcastic or not.

Owlzes · 05/03/2017 21:54

I'd bet my house he's having an affair with her. Sorry op, but from what you've said in your op it's bleedin' obvious.

Is this sarcasm? If not, what on earth did you read in that OP that even remotely suggests an affair?

corythatwas · 05/03/2017 21:59

Hutch2017 Sun 05-Mar-17 20:33:10
"Firstly, having read most of these replies, I think people are being a bit unkind. I love how people can be holier than thou, have never been jealous or insecure in their lives and would be so laid back and understanding if it were their DH."

It's not about being holier than thou: it's about recognising that expecting a spouse to give up not only their friends but hobbies as well is controlling and borderline abuse.

Did you not read the posts where the OP explained that she expected her dh to give up his interests after marriage because she thought he was too old for them? What would you think of a husband who expected his wife to give up her completely harmless hobbies?

This is not just about this particular sexual jealousy: the OP's posts make it clear that she does not respect her dh as the person he is.

surferjet · 05/03/2017 22:00

No I mean it.
Everything in the opening post screams 'affair' - I'm shocked at how many of you think this is totally normal?
Pet names for each other?
'I'll only go if you go'?
If my dh was behaving like this he'd be out on his ear.

marmagstam123 · 05/03/2017 22:07

I would trust my instincts. This sounds like an affair. ..

Hutch2017 · 05/03/2017 22:09

It's not about being holier than thou: it's about recognising that expecting a spouse to give up not only their friends but hobbies as well is controlling and borderline abuse.

Did you not read the posts where the OP explained that she expected her dh to give up his interests after marriage because she thought he was too old for them? What would you think of a husband who expected his wife to give up her completely harmless hobbies?

Hutch2017 · 05/03/2017 22:10

Sorry I mean I don't agree with these parts of the OP's post! No-one should expect their partners to give things up for them.

Shuzza · 05/03/2017 22:12

What EUnamechange said ^

Really have a good think here, we all have irrational jealousies but I think you are in danger of screwing up your marriage if you start demanding he cuts contact with her.

Why don't you trust him?

allchattedout · 05/03/2017 22:13

If my dh was behaving like this he'd be out on his ear

Um what? Really? I would say that to married male colleagues- I will go to the conference if you go so that I have someone to talk to. I hope their wives don't think I am some sort of homewrecker.

You don't think that if they were having an affair that maybe their messages would have been a bit more intimate?

I am genuinely baffled at people thinking the DH is cheating. As I said before, most of the men with jealous partners that I know have plenty of female friends- they just keep them quiet.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 05/03/2017 22:15

They have history Er yes they are friends and work colleagues who have known each other long before OP came on the scene.

they used to date

No - they are friend. What a ridiculous comment.

kali110 · 05/03/2017 22:15

Oh please now he must be having an affair Hmm are we back to males and females can't be friends Confused
lemondrop they didn't date.

kali110 · 05/03/2017 22:17

all me too, i would and have! At My old work we were ( still are) very good friends. We all had nicknames too Grin

corythatwas · 05/03/2017 22:18

Well, even if she hasn't asked straight out, expecting him to do it shows how little respect she has for him.

And depending on the dh's job, asking him not to socialise with any colleagues who happen to be of a different age or sex might actually be tantamount to asking him to give up on his career as well.

It would certainly have made my career almost impossible if dh had taken that into his head. So much of my professional life depends on long talks with colleagues, exchanging ideas, at conferences, over lunch- all perfectly innocent.

I did once have a colleague whose partner was similarly paranoid, and it really did damage their career, because so many perfectly normal parts of the professional role became impossible.

Peanutandphoenix · 05/03/2017 22:22

Yab completely u and seriously irrational jealous and unhinged there is nothing going on between them at all think you need to stop trying to tell him who he can and can't be friends with he's an adult not your child. Think you need to get a grip of yourself he has known this girl a lot longer than you by the sounds of things and if he actually wanted to be with her in a romantic way then he would've got with her when he had the chance not been on a dating website and ended up marring you. I have male friends who are all older than me my best friend is male we talk every day doesn't mean there is anything going on between us especially when he's married but we have things in common.

pollymere · 05/03/2017 22:25

I think you need to realise that your DH could've married her, but he didn't. Don't let it get to you. He hasn't been out with her from the sounds of things. I have lots of male friends on fb many who are exes! My dh has lots of friends similar to your dh. He assures me that he likes them well enough but the thought of more makes him physically ill! He's also more likely to have a hot date with a textbook. PhDs bring people very close as they work long hours on something only a few of them understand. I've never completely understood what my dh does and these friends completely understand and can sympathize on a bad day in a way I can't. Talk to him about how jealous you are of these friends if you can and try to make six months into sixty years. (I've managed eighteen years and my dh hasn't run off with any of them yet).

JohnCheese · 05/03/2017 22:27

Wow. I feel like I've stepped into an altered universe!! This has to be the most unhinged off the Richter scale thread I've ever read on MN. I'm so enjoying it. Grin Specualtion re spies, the nitty gritty PhD age stuff, the cat, permutations about bisexual platonic friendships etc etc. Fabulous.

OP in the nicest possible way, you need to lighten up. Stop looking at your H's messages, that's horrible. You never know, if you got to know this woman she might be nice. Invite her over. Lots.

Do you OP have no male friends??

ThePants999 · 05/03/2017 23:21

You were married 18 months after you met him.
There are already things about him that you want to change, important enough to mention in the first paragraph.
You don't understand or respect his interests, and expected him to drop them for you.
You hate his pet.
You search his messages for evidence of infidelity.
You find none, but that doesn't reassure you.
You want to choose his friends, to the point of trying to contact one you don't like directly to tell her to back off.

I'm very sorry, OP, but if you're still married in five years' time, I'll have some hat-eating to do.

kali110 · 05/03/2017 23:22

I do think the op has taken it on board ( even though she's come out with some rather offensive comments). I do get the insecurity, but if she lets it get on top she'll push her dh husband away.
Her dh obviously loves her and she should concentrate on that.

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