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Does anyone remember the bride in Wales charging £££ for hotel rooms?

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cousinswedding · 01/03/2017 22:53

I don't know of any of you will remember me. I posted months ago when my cousin was planning her wedding in a Welsh castle hundreds of miles away from where we all live. Her wedding is a three day event starting on a Thursday and she asked us to pay to stay in the rooms (£160 per night). When other pulled out she contacted us and said the rooms had gone up so were now £180 so at least £360 for accommodation but more likely three nights so £540. Just for accommodation. My mum is pressuring me to go and we have booked it and waved goodbye to the prospect of a family holiday.

Anyway- cousin and I (used to be close she's been a nightmare in all this) got together today as she wanted to come over and see my outfit for the wedding (in two weeks). She got really frosty with me as my dress is a nude colour- is this a thing?? She's asking me to change it and wear something else. The dress is new and was bought specifically for this occasion and I do have an old green one I could wear but I have worn it to another family wedding and I don't like it that much. The dress I've bought is not cream, more like a pale peach. The bride is wearing white.

I'm loathe to waste more money (can't take it back took the tags off) and resent being ordered around like this. Is nude ok for a wedding or AIBU?

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ArcheryAnnie · 03/03/2017 11:36

Well done, OP, on withdrawing from this ludicrous nightmare.

You haven't done anything at all to make the bride feel bad - she's done that all by herself, and no doubt is behaving incredibly badly to other people, as well.

Going at all would be absolutely horrible at this point, even if you got the whole shebang free. Going to such a nightmare event where you will lose nearly a thousand pounds (rooms, travel, food and drink and all the rest of it) is the worst possible outcome.

Leave her to it, and hold fast to your resolve to stay away. Nothing you can do at this point will fix it, and it's not your responsibility to even try.

ElvishArchdruid · 03/03/2017 11:52

WhiskeySourpuss - you have a good point there. The cynic in me thinks it's a fantastic way to get your guests to pay for everything venue related, leaving Gluezilla and her H2B with minimal costs. To take 1 step further, if you had a 'split the 'profit' post event' kinda deal, they could insinuate paid bar and all sorts, guests may not cotton on, it's so much towards a honeymoon. If your calculations are correct.

Come to my OTT wedding, it's oh so lavish, the castle used to be a sanitorium but you get an added risk of haunted room for free! (Tsk by the way your paying for 95% of it, but we'll make it look like we're giving 'you' the experience of a lifetime.)

Wow, that is rather ... lost for words.

Obviously not suggesting Gluezilla is doing this, but the guests invited to stay are subsidising something, possibly more than just accommodation. Thus H2B is trying to assert himself, now numbers are dwindling.

On another note, if you can't agree on how you are to get married, bearing in mind the emphasis is being far removed from a simple celebration, you know of the happiest moment of your life. I fear for their future together post event.

SocksRock · 03/03/2017 12:41

I had a wedding in a hotel where we paid for all the rooms as part of a package. We sold them to guests at less than the market rate, I think we knocked about 50% off the normal room rate. The lady who ran the wedding side of the hotel business was gobsmacked and said in her experience, about half of the weddings they did where the whole venue was booked and the couple flogged the room, they INCREASED the rates by about 50% to cover the costs.

Their standard room rates are on their website...

ElvishArchdruid · 03/03/2017 12:46

Ooh read about the Aunt possibly being golden child that poor Mum is used to pleasing, when I read that it all made sense. I'm guessing this lavish bash is a mother/daughter ensemble, the groom is saying if it's about getting married, you know, our lifelong commitment to one another, we could just go down the registry office.

I'm pretty sure Gluezilla has spent many a night being consoled by GlueMum, after packing her bags, bawling, I thought you loved me H2B, why would you do this to me. The most special day of our lives and you'd prefer the registry office. I mean so little to you.

I'm sure we all have that one relative who is the apple of the parents eye, by default they could spawn the son of Satan but he'd be so much better than the other Grandchildren.

I recall a party for a sibling when I was pregnant, I had hyperemesis all the way through (both times) so any period where my body would allow me to feel hungry, I'd want to embrace it. I was so emaciated, it was horrific. Mum had done this buffet, all I wanted was to pinch a sandwich before the nausea returned. I got snapped at for being so rude, as we were waiting for my Grandparents, my Mum had worked hard to create a spread like her sibling would. Yet everyone knew that by comparison, she could have got the Queens cooks to prepare said feast, it would never match what the sibling could achieve.

I remember distinctly having rather sharp words about how the symmetry of the sandwiches made fuck all difference. Was she really going to deny her grandchild to be, an extremely rare opportunity of nutrition. Obviously I would never be the same at another party, although a few months down the line there was another big celebration, other side of the family, my relatives from arrival were asking what could they do to help, if I was hungry help myself or ask someone even if the food wasn't unveiled. They even got ginger beer just for me, which I'd never tried and was apprehensive about, but it did the trick and I stayed till past midnight, plus wasn't sick once. I didn't feel like a fuss was being made, apart from my reluctance to drink anything carbonated, it was all really discrete.

I'm sure the sun shining out of maternal relatives arse scenario, will pass down from generation to generation. I refuse to even acknowledge it, as I know I could have gone on to get a doctorate with University lecturing opportunities, but I'd never be as good as a cousin considerably younger.

There's more stories I could tell but they'd pretty much out me. But OP if what others and myself have said about your Mum and 'Golden Child Aunt' ring true, you're well off not being there, as I'm sure some goady relative, most likely your 'Golden Child Aunt' to be precise, will be comparing your celebrations when you got married, to Gluezilla. Not going you can simply say, 'My DAY, that's right DAY, was about my marriage and vows to my wonderful husband. Anything else was* pretty much redundant for us, mere formalitie*s. We're happy you were able to share the occasion. 'X' years and still going strong!'

Dumdedumdedum · 03/03/2017 12:53

SocksRock - good on you and your spouse. My jaw has just dropped at the rest of it..
I was struck by something the OP's cousin said yesterday: I also asked how much she was paying for the venue as the rooms were way over the odds- she wouldn't respond just kept saying how everyone had let her down and she was putting on a big event "for the family so we can all be together!"
So, the cousin is not hosting a wedding and welcoming guests to help her celebrate her marriage, she is putting on a big event in a place and format she has decided on and is in effect, charging her "guests" to attend it and as a by-product, getting them to pay for the wedding of her dreams. Hope your mother is starting to see through her niece's little games here, cousinswedding.

rollonthesummer · 03/03/2017 14:43

How many people are actually still going who will forced to stump up the ever increasing prices of these rooms?!

MipMipMip · 03/03/2017 16:03

Just come across this - old but another entry for bridezillla of the year. I think these two are head to head! thefw.com/bridezilla-email/

Gooseysgirl · 03/03/2017 16:19

Only just caught up, well done OP for making a stand and unsubscribing from the madness!!!

FreeNiki · 03/03/2017 16:19

Are this lot aware that the outcome of marriage is they have to live with the same guy forever and they will fight and piss each other off and divorce is a nightmare.

What do they think will happen after this castle fairytale wedding?

CaptainCabinet · 03/03/2017 16:30

I expect OP's mother's intentions were good. She may have spent her whole life being bullied by her sibling. Family patterns can be very difficult to change.

I think you made the right decision for the Op.

I can't rejoice though as, although this cousin has behaved spectacularly badly, it sounds as though her wedding is falling apart.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/03/2017 16:34

For that matter, where is OP? I do hope she's okay and hasn't been steamrollered ...

mummymeister · 03/03/2017 16:36

We have friends who work at a wedding venue over the past couple of years it has become common practice for couples to sell rooms at more than the rack rate that they are being charged to offset the cost of the venue/the bar/whatever.

I have no idea how this practice started nor do my friends but I was open mouthed when he told me about it especially as it was done in such an off the cuff way it was obvious that almost everyone hiring their venue does it.

what this is, is selfish people saying we want this big do and we want you to actually pay for it - once through the cost of the rooms and again with a present.

I really hope that anyone thinking of getting married and having a big showy wedding reads this particular thread first. all the way through. in fact, I think it should be compulsory pre-nuptial reading.

the relationship with the cousin is gone so I would be posting about the cost of the rooms on my facebook page so that anyone else that is going can see the awful bloody scam this woman has got going. you cant ask people to pay £600, £700 or more pounds for a room when they check out! just so that you make your profit on it?

I don't know how it happens that seemingly normal, nice people start planning a wedding and suddenly they don't give a shit about anyone else around them apart from "their perfect day" and it never is, it never is perfect. OP you should be really proud of yourself. I would definitely be telling the hotel directly why you aren't coming and in no uncertain terms make them aware that let the bridal party sell on the rooms is eventually going to come back and bite their business on the backside.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 03/03/2017 16:51

it has become common practice for couples to sell rooms at more than the rack rate that they are being charged to offset the cost of the venue/the bar/whatever

I realise everyone's saying "how awful" mummy, but is this really such a surprise? I'll no doubt get slated for this, but we constantly see justifications for couples asking for money on their invitations (as opposed to waiting until they're asked then politely suggesting it) ... "why wouldn't you give them what they actually want" and so on

I just wonder if it's really such a jump from believing you can dictate what folk should give to thinking that, since they're going to cough up anyway, they might as well pay for the wedding too? Hmm

Moanyoldcow · 03/03/2017 17:05

I disagree puzzled - one traditionally gives a gift when attending a wedding and it would've been household stuff. Now most people are well established at home so
Don't need dinner services and cutlery canteens.

I'd happily give money to a couple rather than an unwanted gift. In my invite I said that nothing was expected but we'd happily receive any gift they thought we'd like or honeymoon contributions.

I would never EVER have expected my guests to subsidise my wedding however, and was very clear that all drinks all day were free and everyone was very well fed.

Blondeshavemorefun · 03/03/2017 17:09

i rem your first thread and thought you were mad then Wink

and then this one,was going to say ffs grow some balls and say no,but as i RTFT i see you finally have :)

well done

to travel for 3 days is insane,let alone spend that kind of money on hotels

does seem weird how much you mum supports her sister child over youHmm

have a lovely holiday and when is wedding again?

PuddleJumper01 · 03/03/2017 17:19

Cousin I think that dress is beautiful, and doesn't look anything like an under-20-quid bargain (not that the cost matters one iota) and also assume you're stick thin if you were planning on wearing it.

I feel sad for you at the breakdown of the relationship with your cousin. I think you're right not to go, but maybe send her a letter along the lines of "as things are difficult we won't be coming to the wedding as we don't want to distract from your big day; in truth, we were struggling to afford it in any case. But we hope you have a super, amazing time and I'm hoping for a good catch up with you after the honeymoon and a chance to admire all the photos love cousin" and maybe send her the photo frame possibly with a cheque for fifty quid or something.

I know most PPs won't agree with this as a way forward, but hopefully you and she can be close again once this madness is over, and I think you're completely right to rule yourself out of the equation.

I hope her day does go well for her, and agree others that all this focus on such a ridiculous day (or 3) doesn't bode well for a long-term relationship. heigh ho... that's not your problem.

yerbutnobut · 03/03/2017 17:30

Drives me mad that some brides think they have the god given right to dictate every single aspect of the day, even the bits that they aren't paying for! Control freaks. I would not be attending if I were you.

MargotFenring · 03/03/2017 17:32

Wow, just spent the best part of a long train journey reading this. Agree with everything everyone else is saying. You are well rid. Being a bride gives you no right to become a awful human being. The bride and groom are hosts to all the guests that attend and should act as such.

Please keep updating us.

Astro55 · 03/03/2017 17:33

Yes do roll over and suck it up by sending the message ^

Gluzilla needs to apologize not OP - the more people suck up robber the more demanding she'll get

And - the fact that she rang Op's mother to get her own way is laughable - I mean what grown up tells on you?

Deidre21 · 03/03/2017 17:39

Agree with koolkoala
Considering you've spent so much to go to this wedding as well as sacrificing a possible holiday. I'm sure if you could afford to buy another outfit you'd possibly do that but she's being unreasonable telling you what to wear. I'm sure that on the day she won't even notice she's probably just stressed so notices everything now. You must remember to post again after you wear it and let us know what, if any, was her reaction.

ILoveDolly · 03/03/2017 17:48

Do you know what? This is all her BU.
You shouldn't have this sort of wedding if you can't pay for it in your wedding budget. It is unfair to expect guests to shell out on accommodation you have booked and set the price for. It is even more Shock to veto people's dress choices.

Jaxhog · 03/03/2017 17:50

I thought the only colours you couldn't wear to a wedding were white and black!

FirstTimeMum07 · 03/03/2017 17:52

Wow!!!!! Talk about bridezilla, I would wear the dress and book a Premier Inn, I had a cousins wedding a few years ago and she wouldn't tell anybody the colour of the bridesmaids dresses, I asked so many times, in the end I somehow found out and wore the same colour oops

When I got married, I wasn't the bridezilla I had bridesmaidzillas, they were a nightmare lol, "I don't like that dress, I don't like those shoes, I don't like that hair style"

dowhatnow · 03/03/2017 17:56

maybe send her a letter along the lines of "as things are difficult we won't be coming to the wedding as we don't want to distract from your big day; in truth, we were struggling to afford it in any case. But we hope you have a super, amazing time and I'm hoping for a good catch up with you after the honeymoon and a chance to admire all the photos love cousin" and maybe send her the photo frame possibly with a cheque for fifty quid or something.

Everything in me is screaming no at this, but if you want to keep family relations, especially for your mum, then this might not be a bad idea. I think she may realise how unreasonable she has been after the wedding fiasco and she may come to her senses if there is a wedding in the first place given her DH is aware how unreasonable it all is

BerylStreep · 03/03/2017 18:01

Wow. This is the Bridezilla of all bridezillas.

I'm sad that your Mum is happy for others to treat you so badly though.

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