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Is DS being excluded because of his disability ?

502 replies

youcantgettome · 25/02/2017 16:30

I hope not.

So my DS has language difficulties and Autism. He is 7. I joined him into our local football training, I was a bit apprehensive because DS hasn't played football ! (Has an odd kick of the ball) and I didn't know how the team would take to him. But anyway I went along with it.

To my surprise, when I took DS to football, he was engaged in the game. He was playing around, kicking the ball or tying to get hold of the ball to kick it. Though, when the coach was giving out instructions he found it hard to follow, didn't really join in the warm-up as he has slow language processing...so when the coach was shouting at exercises.. DS would process the information and do the instruction but the coach and the others kids have moved on to the next exercises instruction. Ifyswim.

But other than that, I was amazed how DS did in the match...he was throwing the ball appropriately, kicking it, stopping when the players stop it. I was proud as before he would of found these difficult.

But after the session, the coach told me that maybe it would be better for DS to go to a specialist football team (there's hardly any) as its due to his understanding of language or processing of language is slow. Also, he cannot provide the attention DS needs and he has to attend to all the other kids.

I do understand but I felt a bit deflated. DS in my eyes, did excellent as he has never played footie ever ! Plus his social skills difficulties etc... he seemed he did ok. But I don't know, should we look elsewhere ? Should I give up on DS doing football ? I told a friend this and she was shocked and thinks DS was excluded because of his disability ? But I've heard that football is quite competitive so the coaches naturally are ?? Idk.

What do you mumsnetters think ?

OP posts:
CosyNook · 26/02/2017 08:41

One week isn't enough

wasn't given a chance

How do you know? Where you there? Even the OP admitted he struggled.

WateryTart · 26/02/2017 08:41

Its nice to see that i, as an MN poster, have so much power though Grin

What an unpleasant thing to say and then to smile about. You've made your point many times now. Leave Jacques alone and glory in your victory.

JacquesHammer · 26/02/2017 08:43

Volunteering is totally thankless. Honestly unless you it you have no idea how much so.

Sometimes you just need the smallest of pushes to realise it's not for you. This was that for me. I cannot take on another thing to worry about doing right.

LouKout · 26/02/2017 08:44

Watery do you not understand sarcasm. Sorry.

Its all a bit odd really tbh.

JacquesHammer · 26/02/2017 08:45

Watery seriously it's absolutely fine. I definitely shouldn't be coaching if I can't be inclusive and I genuinely can't.

It's something I hadn't even considered other than small logistics for a child I know and it was completely right I was pulled up on it

WeAllHaveWings · 26/02/2017 08:47

Are they a team that competes, or will compete, in a junior football league? If they are it can be competitive and training numbers are restricted to the players they think will help win games NT or SN.

Ds(12) is in a league team and every year starting now they allow new boys to come to training/matches increasing the number of players in the squad. Then it's months of watching to see if ds gets picked for matches, and a very anxious time when they re sign the players they want to take to the new season and they drop the bottom 2. It is brutal.

When ds started playing football he went to the local professional football teams community programme (which had much better trained full time coaches), and also another group which was huge and inclusive, but only played matches within their own players. These type of groups might be better for your ds to start with.

LimeBubbles · 26/02/2017 08:47

*ne week isn't enough
wasn't given a chance

How do you know? Where you there? Even the OP admitted he struggled.*

Because no one is going to perform at their best at the first time of trying something new.

WateryTart · 26/02/2017 08:48

Watery do you not understand sarcasm. Sorry.

I do and I also recognise spite when I see it.

LouKout · 26/02/2017 08:48

err Ok then watery

LouKout · 26/02/2017 08:49

what a strange turn the thread has taken indeed.

T1mum3 · 26/02/2017 08:50

Jacques - I think you are right. If you can't be inclusive you shouldn't be coaching. But the fact that you've realised that means that possibly you might have the self-awareness to achieve inclusivity? It's really not as difficult and scary as it might seem at first.

Please, anyone who is a volunteer on this thread who doesn't understand that they have a responsibility for inclusion - read the Equalities Act, look up diversity and equality. If you are only willing to commit your time to children without any SEN or additional needs, just don't do it.

CosyNook · 26/02/2017 08:50

jacques What shame you are giving up your time and dedication and experience to some pathetic armchair warriors who just want to win an arguemnt rather than actually give something back to their community.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 26/02/2017 08:51

The thread has taken a predictably depressing turn.
"People with disabilities shouldn't be allowed to....."
"Yes they should"
"Well they should be sometimes but only if it suits me"
"That's disablist"
"No it's not"
"Eh yes it is"
"Argh you're being unreasonable, why do people/parents with kids with SN always do this?"

LouKout · 26/02/2017 08:52

Charming

LouKout · 26/02/2017 08:53

Saor they're not worth injuring your head or keyboard tbh

ittooshallpass · 26/02/2017 08:54

One thing which jumped out to me is that you say your son has never played football before.

Most kids in football teams will have been kicking a ball since they could walk and take it all very seriously.

Perhaps try a local community centre for 'kick about' sessions so your DS can get up to speed.

LimeBubbles · 26/02/2017 08:55

pathetic armchair warriors

Yes you pathetic armchair warriors how dare you want your small children included or reasonable adjustments made Confused

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 26/02/2017 08:56

Yeah I'm starting to realise that Lou
Ugh. It's this constant and socially acceptable rejection of my sons which is utterly soul destroying. The suggestion that they should be hidden away, or kept separate. It's disgusting, and wrong.

LouKout · 26/02/2017 08:56

Lime i dont think we are the keyboard warriors here Wink

LouKout · 26/02/2017 08:56

It is Saor. But its only twats who think like that.

CosyNook · 26/02/2017 08:58

Saor Yes, this thread is predictable.

The coach couldn't make reasonable adjustments so the club must close, he be taken to court for being a wanker and not making reasonable adjustments and not magically making 5 volunteers appear to help out.

SaorAlbaGuBrath · 26/02/2017 08:59

Where did I say that? Oh that's right, I didn't. Away you go with your goady shite.

LimeBubbles · 26/02/2017 09:01

The coach couldn't make reasonable adjustments

He didn't even try Confused. Who says more volunteers are needed. There are other adjustments that can be made without more volunteers.

CosyNook · 26/02/2017 09:04

No ones being goady. I was enjoying the debate, but as usual when posters realised they have run out of sensible discussion they revert to mimicking and insults.

LouKout · 26/02/2017 09:06

Glad someone was enjoying it

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