London

[puttingbbts]

This is about London so no comments on how crap and expensive it is from non Londoners.

Aibu to get annoyed when people describe places that aren't London as London?
Sidcup and Bromley are in Kent!
Croydon is in Surrey!
Stratford is Essex!

Living in these areas is suburban. It's not living in London is very different it's suburban living.

Yes the tube map is huge just because it's on the tube doesn't make it London the metropolitan line goes to something like zone 6 I think it's further away than Brighton is the other way.

Is there another Bromley apart from the one in the London Borough of Bromley then?

There's Bromley-by-Bow in zone 2/3.

I'm in zone 2 and I'm not sure how I'd explain where I live other than London. Like most boroughs, my borough takes its name from a specific location within the borough so it would be utterly confusing to say I live there.

It's common to say you live in the nearest well-known city really though isn't it? I know plenty of people who'd say they live in Edinburgh, Manchester, Plymouth etc etc to save having to describe where Musselburgh, Diggle or Woolwell are.

Haven't read he whole thread but since when was Stratford in Essex? It's in zone 2/3 and next to Hackney Wick.

I used to live in Mitcham which is in Surrey but it's definitely London.

omg I lived in diggle as a baby! I didn't know anyone else had ever heard of it

I know plenty of people who'd say they live in Edinburgh, Manchester, Plymouth etc etc to save having to describe where Musselburgh, Diggle or Woolwell are.

Exactly. I live in Glasgow, but my house is actually not in the Glasgow city council area. My address however is "Hattie's House, Tinfoil Street, District, Glasgow...." It's just shorthand. If speaking to someone from Glasgow, you can say you live in Govan, Bearsden, Cranhill, Shawlands, Dennistoun - means nothing to people who aren't famliar with the city. So you just say "Glasgow" and don't get your knickers in a knot about it.

Also Hornchurch is in London because it's in the London borough of havering. The bits right at the edge of London do feel a bit fuzzy though

Applebite I don't think anyone has heard of it, that's why they pick a nearby large town or city and say that's where they're from.

But Croydon etc –NOT London.

So why is it the London Borough of Croydon then? And why do I only get welcomed to Surrey a mile up the road? Where the hell am I then??

TBH, I suspect that people who get iritated with people calling the. London Boroughs "London" probably need help with the Great Stick of Snobbery that is wedged up their butt.

I would far prefer to say I live in Surrey because that is nicer than London. however, I don't live in Surrey.

I've been to Diggle I like walking in the Dovestones, Greenfield, Saddleworth sort of area.

Perhaps we should start a separate argument thread as to which counties these places fall into. .

Stratford is not in Essex

Crayford - it's in the 'LONDON' borough of Bexley... zone 6, but still in London!

OP has gone rather quiet.

I'd go with trad London postcodes - anything starting with N, NW, S, SE, SW, E (&ECs) are London. I'm not so convinced by the EN, BR, CR, TW ones, although do realise they say the London borough of so and so.

oh i give up-they made them boroughs for tax purposes

its like calling basildon london just because thy want to make it a borough it doesnt make it true though

stratford is london though always has been

GabsAlot you could address it to Bromley Kent, it'd probably get there because historically it was Kent. It would however be incorrect as Bromley is now a London borough and it's not Kent. Google it.

I'm afraid you are being unreasonable OP, because every single place you've listed falls within greater London and thus is part of London.

Sidcup is in the London borough of Bexley (and a small part in the royal borough of Greenwich) and Bromley is in the London borough of Bromley. Croydon is the London Borough of Croydon and Stratford in the London Borough of Newham.

For those who say just because it's a London borough doesn't make it London, I really don't know how to respond to that. Of course it does. That is what the definition of London is!! The city of London (the square mile) plus all of its boroughs!! That is what makes up greater London all of which is governed by the mayor of London.

I have an East London postcode. A parcel arrived for me last week addressed Essex. I was a little surprised.

@puttingbbts Croydon is a London Borough
Stop talking balloons

Op I think your being unreasonable. Why sweat the small stuff ?

So what if you live in greater London but drop the greater when people as where you live.

Are you just being all London snobbish?

But a lot of London is suburbia. Are you an actual Londoner, OP? Because I don' think many Londoners would make those claims. I grew up in Zone 2, close to the River Thames. I lived for 10 years in Zone 1, walking distance of Trafalgar Square. I now live near (shock, horror) Croydon, out in Zone 6. It is a weird hinterland as we are postally Surrey, but otherwise definitely London - phone code, borough, buses, you name it. And it has a London 'feel'. London contains many facets, that's why I love it!

It's a postcode thing, IMO. Croydon has its own postcode, ergo is an entity unto itself.

I kind of think of it as being inside the North and South Circulars.

The correct address would be in the form
99 London Road
Bromley
BR9 9XX

Then it isn't London, is it?

Because all London addresses would be
99 Provincial Road
London
SE/SW/N/NW/E/W1 9XX

If it is an address that doesn't have 'London' right before the postcode, it isn't London

Are you an actual Londoner, OP? Because I don' think many Londoners would make those claims.

I was going to make this exact same point. It rather smacks of someone who feels living closer to Central London confers some kind of superior status, a distinction which born-and-bred Londoners don't make IME (and I'm not born and bred myself, although I have lived here my entire adult life in multiple boroughs and zones, so have experienced a fair bit of it!)

Being closer to London Defo confers a superior status, if by 'superior' we mean 'cashola'

If it is an address that doesn't have 'London' right before the postcode, it isn't London

Then why is called London Borough of Bromley? You do realise there isn't a strict definition of what constitutes London conversationally. Most people understand "I live in London" to mean I live in Greater London, not I live within a stones throw of Leicester square.

Greater London. Therefore can vote for the mayor and can use oyster for the train. Zone six is still London.

In fact most people can't afford to live anywhere near zone 1